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Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Jazerus posted:

Obviously Lynch has never met a Clinton ever and is going to be hugely influenced by 30 minutes with Bill

Yep, not like he appointed her to be the US Attorney for EDNY or anything like that.

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Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

theblackw0lf posted:

Greg Sargent talked to the Sanders campaign, and sounds like there's more victories they've gotten from the platform than has been reported. Some really good stuff here

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/07/01/bernie-sanders-is-winning-some-big-victories-over-the-dem-platform/


According to Sanders adviser Warren Gunnels, they are mostly satisfied and believe they are off to "an excellent start"

Most of those weren't contentious issues, though. They're points where everyone already agreed.

#1 both are on record as favoring.
#2 is so broad as to be almost meaningless but both are on record as favoring (since last summer so it's not like Sanders showing in the primaries was the reason in any way.)
#3 is a Sanders proposal (though it was originally Al Franken's idea in 2010) but has broad support from Democrats as a whole and Clinton has never opposed it.
#4 is a Sanders thing through and through.
#5 is something both support on record.
#6 is something both support on record.

The biggest one on there that is actually a Bernie issue is postal banking (which is a great idea.). Presenting them all as Sanders victories is weird.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

HorseRenoir posted:

Have to pretend Sanders got something accomplished out of this drawn-out mess, I suppose

Postal banking is definitely something - it would be a legit good thing to have, and would be one step closer to allowing the Post Office to evolve appropriately for modern times (eg the post office serving as an ISP as was proposed once upon a time).

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Geostomp posted:

If it has any hope of destroying those check cashing scammers that prey on poor areas, that alone would be enough reason to demand it.

Last time it was proposed, check cashiers and payday loan places lobbied heavily against it.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

No Butt Stuff posted:

Well, when she had demonstrably different ideas prior to their engagements, I think it's fair. I don't think it's fair that he'd get all the credit for all the ideas, but you can't deny his impact on some of it.

Most of it they've agreed on since before he showed any hint of success in challenging her. So no, I think you actually can deny his impact on much of it.

quote:

Also, at this point I view Hillary as a woman the same way that OJ documentary portrayed OJ as black. It's a convenience thing.

Tell us more about how Hillary isn't sufficiently genuine, I've never heard this before.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

No Butt Stuff posted:

Much not all, which is what I was attempting to say, but didn't really, I guess.

I'm guessing you didn't watch the OJ documentary I'm referring to. The idea was the he transcended race, and then it was utilized by other people (and to a small extent, himself) as a type of leverage in his trial, but that for the most part he was thought of outside of the context of race, which was a huge thing.

But yeah, I'm totally just being a dick about Hillary not being genuine.

"It's a convenience thing." isn't a "she transcends gender". It's pretty plainly "she only uses the woman thing when it's convenient" which is a little inaccurate.

(Besides, we have perfectly good evidence that Sanders is a dick to women when he wants their position stemming back thirty years all the way up to trying to take HELP from Murray despite having significantly less seniority than her.)

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

gfsincere posted:

Yet we haven't had this problem with our citizenship test. Wonder why that is?

Well, for one thing, if you're denied citizenship you can sue for it and have a decision made that will be effective, since the election you sued to vote in won't have happened two years ago by the time you get a decision.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Thaddius the Large posted:

God drat, I forgot it was time for that again. Yodarape was pretty funny, but I'm glad to see the animetars go.

Yodarape didn't leave you. It's still here.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Jackson Taus posted:

I don't know all the details, but "trying to beat someone else out for a committee chair you want" sounds like a normal political thing that politicians do, right? Like scheming for better committee assignments is basically every Congressperson's hobby, no?

Democrats assign chairs on a seniority basis. It's normal to scheme to get assigned to committees you want, but Sanders is already on HELP. He is explicitly saying "I know that I'm less senior than Murray, but give it to me anyway."

Which would be one thing if he didn't seem to have an extended history of that kind of thing going back to his governors race.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Yeah, Apple has been super cooperative so far when law enforcement wants them to be. (Assuming it even gets implemented.)

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Grognan posted:

If it were anyone but the leader of one of the two parties that run the federal government, they'd be fired and not be working anywhere near classified information. The State dept. IG report actually detailed that this happened to a US ambassador that also used a private server in violation of dept. policy. He resigned rather than face administrative punishment.

Hahahha that is NOT why he resigned. Want to know why that guy resigned? I'll quote the DoS report that led to his resignation:

quote:

The Ambassador has lost the respect and confidence of the staff to lead the mission. Of more than 80 chiefs of mission inspected in recent cycles, the Ambassador ranked last for interpersonal relations, next to last on both managerial skill and attention to morale, and third from last in his overall scores from surveys of mission members. The inspectors found no reason to question these assessments; the Ambassador’s leadership to date has been divisive and ineffective

But wait - there's more!

quote:

(The Ambassador) does not read classified front channel messages and has not established a system to have his staff screen incoming cables relevant to Kenya and U.S. interests in the region.

Ouch. I mean that'd be enough but... Oh wait it gets worse?

quote:

The Ambassador’s greatest weakness is his reluctance to accept clear-cut U.S. Government decisions. He made clear his disagreement with Washington policy decisions and directives concerning the safe-havening in Nairobi of families of Department employees who volunteered to serve in extreme hardship posts; the creation of a freestanding Somalia Unit; and the nonuse of commercial email for official government business, including Sensitive But Unclassified information. Notwithstanding his talk about the importance of mission staff doing the right thing, the Ambassador by deed or word has encouraged it to do the opposite

So yeah he didn't get fired over email. He got fired because he was a fuckup that no one trusted who was poisoning his staff's relationships with the locals and with State HQ.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Grognan posted:

I am going to posit that none of you actually read the FBI and DoS IG reports.

Then we are even because you clearly didn't read the one about the ambassador who was fired "because he used gmail."

that definitely was not why he got canned

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

go3 posted:

he is the literal embodiment of FYGM

Well, more like half of an embodiment.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

FourLeaf posted:

Fine. I will step back and say that the article has a severe case of 'dramatic headline not backed up by actual content'. The author conflates his own opinions about Bernie's white privilege with the facts presented by actual Sanders staffers regarding the campaign's funds and time limits. It's extremely dishonest.

So you would disagree with the statement that, given limited time and funding, the Sanders campaign chose not to make black voters a priority?

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Spaced God posted:

So I was reading a WaPo article about "Why the police in Baton Rouge look like they’re dressed for war" and it was your bog standard military police stuff, but I learned something fun:


Why did we need to clarify police don't need bayonets or grenade launchers? Did any department get loving bayonets? I guess they expect to fight some blacks bank robbers in 1916 Verdun or some poo poo

It's an artifact of how the program is structured. It isn't a list of items it's okay to sell, it's a program that provides police with priority on purchasing all military surplus items. (Which includes grenade launchers and bayonets.). So you don't add them, they're available by default and you have to specifically exclude them.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

radical meme posted:

So you think being the first police chief in the U.S. to blow up a citizen without any sort of judicial process looks good on a resume?

Pretty sure we have had multiple threads discussing the innumerable instances in which the police blow away a citizen without judicial process.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

CelestialScribe posted:

Holy poo poo. Back in February everyone was saying "wait until July when polls are more accurate". And this isn't a Rasmussen poll - it's a pollster that has a top rating at 538 and isn't known for making crazy errors.

It's July. Trump is gaining ground. This is happening. Stop trying to deny it.

This is one poll, yes. But you can't look at it and dismiss it just because the average is still in positive territory.

Quinnipiac actually is known for being really bad at polling Florida - they had weird bounces in 2012 too and basically weren't predictive at all there.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Empress Theonora posted:

thanks for this, i've been freaking out all day over the other polls

Also worth reading: http://steveschale.squarespace.com/blog/2016/7/13/short-note-on-q-poll.html

Q is a decent pollster overall but apparently really bad at polling FL.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

gfsincere posted:

I advocated that black people should arm themselves, but I get visits because of
a) Ferguson
b) providing plenty of material support to BLM
c) was in the Marines as an intelligence analyst with speciality in insurgency and counterinsurgency operations and tactics.

I'm probably not the person you want to lose track of and not know what he's up to in case I decide to go off the reservation, as it were, especially in the light of the Dallas attack.

Bragging that you have the capacity to plan a terrorist attack probably doesn't help.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Internet Webguy posted:

I suppose miraculously learning to walk again is about on par, difficulty-wise, as someone "deciding" to join the 1%.

Fwiw, the 1% thing with Mealer is a reference to when, after he was in the accident (which killed his father and his brother's girlfriend), his doctors gave him a 1% chance of ever walking again.

It's a legitimately touching story (the Michigan strength and conditioning staff basically took him on pro bono outside of their existing jobs to get him walking again) and now Donald loving Trump is going to ruin anything good about it.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010


Not exactly surprising she left out "he will never ever run around and desert you." part.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Periodiko posted:

I'm wonder if the reason they haven't thrown the speechwriter under the bus is because the person who wrote the offending passage is a Trump family member.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/243365239196876801

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

size1one posted:

Trump isn't going to drop out. He's the bratty kid in class who craves attention so he annoys everyone. He doesn't care that everyone hates him as long as people pay attention to him.

There's even a non-zero chance that Melania's plagiarism was intentional just to create a scandal and buzz. Just think how much attention Trump will get now.

This is the dumbest goddamn conspiracy theory.

:siren:ITS THE WEEK OF THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION. TRUMP WAS GETTING ATTENTION NO MATTER WHAT.:siren:

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

size1one posted:

You're assuming he doesn't see he wife like everyone else in his life: Disposable.

He went after Cruz, hard, after Cruz used a picture of her in an ad.

He sees her as his property and any mockery of her mocks him.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

size1one posted:

Yeah I remember that. I don't think that proves he cares. People sympathize with the wives when they're attacked so that was an easy win for Trump. Just look ITT to see people who despise Trump but honestly feel bad for Melania.

People who compulsively crave attention don't stop when they get attention. Giving them attention usually makes it worse.

Edit: and even if you're right about it being a possessive thing theres a difference between Cruz using her and Trump using her. Trump gets to do what he wants with his playthings.

Yes, but he isn't the one mocking her now. It's pretty literally "nobody picks on my brother but me."

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Dexo posted:

https://twitter.com/CraigSJ/status/755860548604923904


Apperantly the "alleged" Speechwriter wasn't on Trump's payroll with the FEC.

As long as the campaign eventually (within the reporting period, basically) reimburses Trump Org for his services it's not a violation.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Arcanen posted:

VP doesn't matter! Who cares if Clinton's pick is a super bland blue dog white dude who's signed reckless banking legislation in the last couple of weeks? Biden was exactly the same, and look how much we all love him?

Kaine's not a blue dog, though?

I mean, he's anti death penalty, pro gun control, cosponsored a minimum wage bill, and spent the first part of his career working on housing discrimination lawsuits. (He's personally against abortion but also has a 100% grade from Planned Parenthood so when he says he doesn't let it affect his voting, it's accurate.) He's a moderately liberal Democrat (like Clinton) who is heavily into policy details (like Clinton) and is generally well liked by his colleagues (like Clinton... Well, like she used to be, before 2008.)

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Necc0 posted:

What the gently caress??

This is really from the GOP?

Civil asset forfeiture is an area where you get a lot of people on both sides who want to reform it. Not surprising to see it in the GOP platform since it's a "restrict government overreach" sort of ideal.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010


Rumor is Cruz being able to give this speech was his price for not telling his delegates to go all out on the floor.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The Hatch act does not prevent cabinet members from speaking at the DNC. That is just a policy Obama implemented. The Hatch act prevents cabinet members from performing political functions only in their official capacities.

Speaking at the DNC is not a violation of the Hatch act.

Giving an interview about a new program and saying "and that is why you should vote for Obama! He does stuff like this!" is a violation of the Hatch act.

It does prevent them from being a VP candidate without resigning though.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Franco Potente posted:

VPs have almost no home state effect anymore.

they never did

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

Your noodles are violence against my people. Your broth; cultural genocide.

Ah, I see you've tasted the pho at my work cafeteria.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Reason posted:

http://www.irbsearch.com/index.html I believe this is the website we ended up using and think its the one I'm talking about. They will give you a print out of the person you're looking up with all previous addresses, dobs, and ssn. But if you're talking about info only process servers(and I guess state patrol and law enforcement) have access to let me tell you about ACE the WA state patrol database.

Heck if we want to talk about databases the public doesn't have access to it opens up all sorts of crazy stuff that employees have access to. Verizon at least used to when your account pulled up after you called in it would include your SSN in plain text right there on the screen. There are easier ways to get someones SSN and invade privacy than wikileaks. It would be pretty trivial to pick your target then get hired at some outsource phone support company for their cell phone provider and right there on the screen have literally everything you ever needed on anyone who had a phone account.

irbsearch website posted:

IRB is the only data provider that exclusively serves investigative professionals. You and your business are our priority.

So uh not publicly accessible after all.

(We get a ton of intelius reports whenever we try to track down potential witnesses so I see a bunch of them and Intelius definitely does not do full SSNs - first five only.)

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

citybeatnik posted:

We're trapped in a stable time loop, doomed to repeat ourselves again and again until after the convention.

The emails read like the kind of thing I'd hammer out on my cellphone - short, slightly abrupt, and since it's between colleagues not necessarily cleaned up/as polished and professional as you'd use for public consumption. Like those climate scientist emails that people on the right were crowing about a few years ago.

Also sent at like 3 am.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

a shameful boehner posted:

"Lets get this story out there without attribution"

My god, they wanted to circulate a story that made the people calling their organization biased and unethical etc etc look bad.

How dare they.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Bushiz posted:

an honorary chair is an entirely optics-based position.

you can't really have this one both ways.

"Honorary chair of the 50 state strategy for my campaign," not even honorary chair of the campaign.

It's a "Executive Vice President for Paper Product Processing" position - fancy title for a person who's being poo poo on.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

She didn't.

She offered her an unpaid, ceremonial position as honorary campaign chair. it is completely useless and I am sure an olive branch to make sure she went the gently caress away quietly.

Honorary campaign chair of her fifty state strategy. So it's not even an honorary campaign chair of the campaign position.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

I think it was Glenn Beck who first invented this argument. I don't like Assange, but Assange has posted poo poo that is both critical of the Russian and Syrian governments.

No he hasn't.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Necc0 posted:

Not calling out anyone in specific because honestly I can't remember who they were but to all the people who told us we were wrong when we got pissed at Bernie when he turned his campaign negative: go gently caress yourselves.

Also those of us who were saying that giving Sanders leverage wasn't that useful because he couldn't actually control his entire delegate slate.

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Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Please say this was recorded. It must have been.

It was, but everyone is omitting the sarcastic air quotes Trump used around "friends."

Sadly not a thing.

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