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Professor Shark posted:Yeah The Road is insanely depressing. everyone assumes I am against having children because I have read or watched The Road I have not
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The Road is trite.
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Jul 16, 2016 20:50
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8-Bit Scholar posted:What I liked about the Road is that it has a fairly novel cause for its apocalypse. It's not really explicitly stated, but it appears that the world was put to poo poo because of a super volcano eruption Nah it's probably a meteor strike or nuclear winter. Also with Children of Men, one of my favorite litle details is how all the animals in the movie absolutely adore Theo.
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Jul 16, 2016 20:52
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Professor Shark posted:I thought it was an asteroid strike? Either one would super-gently caress the world, although super volcano probably less so. I remember those Niburu videos.
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Jul 16, 2016 20:54
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Noah's Island, a cartoon series for children, featuring a polar bear, some mammoths, and a Russian desmon named Sacha who says "Oisky Poisky" a lot (among other animals), had the same dark ending as The Road about eight years before it was penned. Coincidence?
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Jul 16, 2016 21:03
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I haven't read the book because I enjoy life but when I watched the movie, the narrator said something about a bright orange glow and then no electrical power.
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Jul 18, 2016 17:34
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jBrereton posted:The Road is trite. The book is fantastic
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Jul 19, 2016 07:39
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The book is also depressing as gently caress.
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Jul 19, 2016 07:45
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The road is one of the few books of fiction I've ever read. I saw the film one night at about 1am and it was the most horrifically depressing thing ever. Children of Men is an incredible film.
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Jul 19, 2016 09:01
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I usually read Blood Meridian, No Country For Old Men, and The Road each every two years They're very good, but very depressing I'm not a huge fan of his other stuff
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Jul 19, 2016 09:32
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Professor Shark posted:Blood Meridian, No Country For Old Men, and The Road lol
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Jul 19, 2016 09:34
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the horrifying thing about the road is that the collapse of the biosphere kills every single vertebrate before humans the only food are humans
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Jul 19, 2016 12:49
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when I read the road it made me realize that in a true apocalypse no one would really know the cause. that seems impressively subtle and well thought out to me, but I'm a dumbass so maybe it's not. children of men is also good.
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Jul 19, 2016 12:55
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Blood Meridian and The Road are depressing because they show what horrible poo poo people can repeatedly get away with outside the reach of society. They're probably a libertarian's wet dream. Also this thread makes me want to rewatch Children of Men since it's been about a decade.
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Jul 19, 2016 15:23
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I read somewhere that cormac mccarthy's early work is good but his writing over the last few decades has devolved into needlessly obtuse and redundant postmodernisms... excerpts of his writing that I've seen have not convinced me otherwise. no country for old men the movie is fantastic thoughMeatwadIsGod posted:Blood Meridian and The Road are depressing because they show what horrible poo poo people can repeatedly get away with outside the reach of society. They're probably a libertarian's wet dream. It's very telling how all some people can think about is an apocalyptic scenario.
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Jul 19, 2016 15:32
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Where are you guys watching Children of Men, i can't find it on prime and i don't trust win10 with torrenting. ANyway, what's you guys think of These Final Hours? I thought it was like Spun meets the first Mad Max movie.
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Jul 19, 2016 15:53
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Phobophilia posted:the horrifying thing about the road is that the collapse of the biosphere kills every single vertebrate before humans Which is dumb because you can survive on potatoes and soybeans forever, but if you use humans for caloric input you have to slaughter 1% of humanity every week so the humans would run out before canned food would.
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Jul 19, 2016 15:58
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i liked children of men. i thought the fate of miriam is one of the most terrifying parts of the film. you see all the abhorrent stuff on the way into the refugee camp and its mysterious and terrifying. then miriam gets pulled out of the bus and dumped into that. you never see anything specific, but that just adds to how awful that fate was. i also really liked the son of the art guy. my pet theory is that he used to be into some really bad poo poo. he has the neck tattoo and what appears to be a gunshot scar in his cheek. i always assumed he used to be wild but after "the incident" is kept on a short leash, imprisoned within his home, and forced to take meds that make him more docile.
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Jul 19, 2016 17:01
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blood meridian is a really good book
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Jul 19, 2016 17:38
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SciFiDownBeat posted:It's very telling how all some people can think about is an apocalyptic scenario. Jack Vance found a really good way to make a Fantasy/Post-Apocalypse Sci-Fi hybrid series that manages to capture the bugfuck lunacy of a ludicrously overdeveloped Earth in its final years. Science and Magic are completely indistinguishable, there's extremely weird lethal remnants of millions of years of dead civilizations everywhere, and the people just kind-of roll it off with an almost blase sense of fatalism. Fun trivia-- a lot of it ended up influencing Dungeons and Dragons. Plus the covers are ace in that "I'll never get laid" aesthetic that mid-20th Century geek poo poo had on lock.     It's a nice dorky-as-gently caress counterweight to the rampant toxic machismo that permeates all the Children of Men/Blood Meridian perspective.
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Jul 19, 2016 18:43
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i loving love jack vance! well the dying earth poo poo, havent read the lyonesse stuff altho i have them at my cabin, waiting for the right moment. don't read much fantasy no more. on topic, children of men is a ham fisted and heavy handed, boring shitstopia movie with some nice cinematography and action scenes. if only they'd decided to film a p.k. dick novel instead of a boring p.d. james novel. Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jul 19, 2016 |
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Jul 19, 2016 18:53
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I really like the scene in this movie where they are trying to scam the coke dealer and he's playing Jessie's Girl by Rick Springfield in the background really loud all the while this Chinese kid keeps lighting off fireworks.
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Jul 19, 2016 18:57
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the road is infinitely better because it actually has a plot that makes sense, but they hosed up the movie b/c in the book the kid is like, 6 years old but in the movie he's like 12 which makes him seem retarded. also in the book the father is like this stoic figure, but in the movie viggo can't loving stop weeping for 5 minutes. the novel is gritty, the movie is sappy. completely missed the mark.
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Jul 19, 2016 18:58
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The Road (the movie) was a letdown because the director also made The Proposition, which is probably the best Western since Unforgiven. Been a few years since I read the book so maybe I should give it another go.
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Jul 19, 2016 19:10
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the road movie was bad the book was great
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Jul 19, 2016 19:18
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children of men is good
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Jul 19, 2016 21:43
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MeatwadIsGod posted:The Road (the movie) was a letdown because the director also made The Proposition, which is probably the best Western since Unforgiven. Been a few years since I read the book so maybe I should give it another go. I agree, the proposition is very good I've seen the road but remember almost nothing about it
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Jul 19, 2016 22:11
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Guy Pearce cameo in The Road was great
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Jul 19, 2016 22:41
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Some people think The Road had a happy-ish ending, but you gotta ask yourselves... what was the family feeding that dog of all the animals were dead and food was incredibly scarce?
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Jul 19, 2016 22:53
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Tumble posted:Some people think The Road had a happy-ish ending, but you gotta ask yourselves... what was the family feeding that dog of all the animals were dead and food was incredibly scarce? Supposedly the stockpile of canned food that the Father and the Boy run into earlier in the book may have been from the Survivalist and his family. I think the big hint is the reloaded shotgun shells he finds there.
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Jul 19, 2016 23:25
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IMO The Road isn't about the apocalypse at all really, it's just about the relationship between the father and the son, which could happen in any setting. Seems to me to be sort of an anti-"Life is Beautiful" where they are in an awful situation and the father only makes it worse. He put his sickness into the kid, shows him the absolute worst humanity has to offer (let's spend the night outside a house full of cannibals) and it results in the kid being so distrusting that the true ending to the story might as well be that the kid shoots the family who tries to help him. However, with that ending you would kill yourself after finishing the story; the whole thing is so depressing anyway that the "happy" ending is fair enough.
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imagine if children of men ended with them sticking the baby on a spit and eating it like in the road, spoiler alert btw
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Jul 20, 2016 02:34
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radiatinglines posted:I agree, the proposition is very good Professor Shark posted:Guy Pearce cameo in The Road was great The Rover is also very good, post apocalyptic Guy Pearce, it's almost a spiritual successor to the original Mad Max.
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Phobophilia posted:the horrifying thing about the road is that the collapse of the biosphere kills every single vertebrate before humans see. at that point, i would have killed myself. I read the book for a class (a really loving great class) I dont get why they go on. are they looking for the coast or some sort of better place south? or are they kinda just wandering day by day for survival. i mean they find a house full of people being slowly slaughtered for their meat piece by piece while they are alive and then they find a newborn on spit roasting. there is nothing left to live for. If i were the dad, i would kill then kid then my self as fast as possible once i knew everything was totally hosed. Dyna Soar posted:the road is infinitely better because it actually has a plot that makes sense, but they hosed up the movie b/c in the book the kid is like, 6 years old but in the movie he's like 12 which makes him seem retarded. also in the book the father is like this stoic figure, but in the movie viggo can't loving stop weeping for 5 minutes. the novel is gritty, the movie is sappy. completely missed the mark. drat, i always pictured the kind in the book as 12 or maybe 10. its not like he would get real education anyway. RaySmuckles posted:i liked children of men. whats wrong with michael caine wife? I assume she was catatonic because she lost a kid or something. also gently caress the fishs for killing him, it wasn't even necessary. i am glad they all die in some poo poo hole tenant building for loving nothing.
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Jul 20, 2016 04:13
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I think Miriam is the antsy midwife who got yanked off the fugee bus and black-bagged for the cause
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I thought it was good to see Miss Trunchbull get a taste of her own medicine. I bet the soldiers made her eat a whole chocolate cake
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peak debt posted:Which is dumb because you can survive on potatoes and soybeans forever, but if you use humans for caloric input you have to slaughter 1% of humanity every week so the humans would run out before canned food would. not when there isn't even enough light to grow potatoes and soybeans
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dads_work_files posted:I thought it was good to see Miss Trunchbull get a taste of her own medicine. I bet the soldiers made her eat a whole chocolate cake no they just put her in that hosed up closet full of broken glass and nails that she had. the pokey i think. heh, didnt know it was the same actress. thats cool.
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RaySmuckles posted:i liked children of men. You maybe right, he probably is. The book goes more into the Omegas, whom the name applies more to the extreme form of anarchic nihilists that vandalize trains and stage ambushes in the film. In the book, the name Omega stands for "Omega generation" and applies to those youngsters who were born last. They're heavily entitled by being doted upon by their elders because of their status. However, because they have also no future, the Omegas are also unstable, violent, and contemptible, but are treated with kid gloves by society, so they can get away with most crimes without punishment. Dapper_Swindler posted:drat, i always pictured the kind in the book as 12 or maybe 10. its not like he would get real education anyway. The Boy is supposedly born just after the disaster strikes, so everything he's learned would be from the Father or his mother. Dapper_Swindler posted:whats wrong with michael caine wife? I assume she was catatonic because she lost a kid or something. also gently caress the fishs for killing him, it wasn't even necessary. i am glad they all die in some poo poo hole tenant building for loving nothing. It's hinted at in the introductory shot of Jasper's home, with all the photos, Steve Bell cartoons, and magazine cutouts, that his wife was tortured by the government into catatonia for exposing some sort of injustice. BTW, it's interesting that Americans are considered second-class citizens in this world, despite sharing many traits with the English. Julian herself mentions American parents who are killed in New York nuclear explosion and there's a one-legged man in Bexhill who tries to talk up Theo and Kee (who also works as an inside man for the Fishes). It also explains some of the adverts about illegal immigration, because it's no longer just black and brown people, it's this hidden population that speaks the same language and looks just like you.
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Young Freud posted:BTW, it's interesting that Americans are considered second-class citizens in this world, despite sharing many traits with the English.
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