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ShadowHawk
Jun 25, 2000

CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER
Back in 2009, Korean company Tmax announced that they were on the verge of releasing a brand new proprietary OS that would have the usability of OSX, the security of Linux, and the compatibility of Windows. They called it "Tmax Window 9", which a few articles then misprinted as "Windows 9".

Among the outlandish things they claimed:
- Supporting Windows and Linux binaries
- Supporting Windows drivers
- Having their own office suite, web browser, and email program
- Not using any Linux, Wine, ReactOS, OpenOffice, or other open source code

quote:

Public beta service will be possible in November 2009.
They will sell by the price of 50%~70% of MS Windows.
Oversea sale companies will be 10 locations in 2010, 30 locations in 2011.
World market share would be 10% by 2012, 30% by 2015.
They will sell to Korean government mainly at first.

Around the time of their press events one of their engineers posted in Korean, which got translated by someone on the ReactOS forums

quote:

Problem is windows binary driver compatiblity, before release 2~3 months, order to be
compatible with windows binary driver, we are suffering as dogs.
This it that, in the beginning of development, we outlined to use linux driver and be
compatible APIs like GDI.
But before 3 months before release, Proffessor Daeyon Park(the CEO of Tmax) ordered be
compatible with windows binary driver, so we are making windows kernel API be
compatible.
I think windows compatiblity is important. But how can it be possible in 3 months. it's
absurd. In the beginning of development, windows compatiblity is not needed, but 3 months before beta release, patching is being continued. in addition to, Reactos OS project is reference(moreover reactos OS is GPLed)
the matter what I think is core member does not have philosophy of OS.
Proffessor Park has good business mind and technology mind. But managers who execute and manage don't have it.
When Making OS, windows compatiblity is planned at first.
Now we are making perfect OS which has MAC-like UI, linux-like ordinarity, windows-like compatiblity OS.
Moreover main coders is twenties aged Master of Science researchers as military service.
researchers who came in urgently quits in a few months.
Who finishes military service of 1 year and 6months, moved to other companys.

The release never happened. Likely management finally figured out it was a big fraud. Tmax quietly scrubbed the project, tried to erase all references from the internet (largely succeeding, since almost nobody cared), and then sold off its operating system division to Samsung in 2010.


Now it's back!

"Korea IT News" posted:

Tmax Waits 7 Years to Release Its Own OS

After 7 years from its failure, Tmax developed and finally introduced its OS (Operating System) for PCs. It showed a blueprint of future OS that will target not only PC markets, but also go after mobile, Cloud, IoT80, and AI (Artificial Intelligence) markets and is aiming MS (Microsoft) once again.

Tmax (CEO Park Hak-rae) held a press conference at KOEX Intercontinental Hotel and introduced its Tmax OS for PCs. About 10,000 people from different companies and public organizations attended this presentation.

Tmax OS focused on compatibility, security, and convenience. It will solve any inconvenience and unfamiliarity that come with using new OS and plan to differentiate its OS from others. Because it was developed based on UNIX, which is the standard in this industry, it is prepared for mobile and Cloud environments.

Because it uses a compatible layer that it developed, it is compatible with applications, platforms, and devices that operate on MS Window, Google Android, Apple iOS and others. Not only MS Word, PowerPoint, and Excel can be operated on Tmax OS, but devices such as mouse, keyboard and others can be operated through Tmax OS.

Tmax put out its security function as an element that differentiates itself from MS Window. Unauthorized programs that can be threatening towards security are automatically run at a separate space called ‘Secure Zone’. Because this area is separated from an area that is designed for one’s tasks, it does not affect entire system even if a problem occurs. It has a similar concept as ‘separated network’ that businesses and organizations use.

“Security updates are often performed when MS Window is used and this means that MS Window poses that much security threats.” said Director Choi Woo-young of Tmax OS Research Institute. “Because a separate space called Secure Zone exists in Tmax OS, programs that might be threatening towards security are separated from normal tasks and run in Secure Zone.”
At ‘Tmax OS Presentation’, which was held at KOEX on the 20th, Chairman Park Dae-yeon of Tmax is making a keynote speech with a topic of ‘Happiness of Choice, Start of Innovation’. Staff Reporter Yoon, Sunghyuk | shyoon@etnews.com <At ‘Tmax OS Presentation’, which was held at KOEX on the 20th, Chairman Park Dae-yeon of Tmax is making a keynote speech with a topic of ‘Happiness of Choice, Start of Innovation’. Staff Reporter Yoon, Sunghyuk | shyoon@etnews.com >

Tmax also introduced ‘Work Space’, which divides a screen into four depending on purpose of use, for the first time and this will decrease any inconvenience in having a separate window per program. It even developed its own word and web browser.

Tmax also introduced ‘TOP’, which is a comprehensive development platform, for establishment of ecosystem that is a must in OS market. TOP solves any inconvenience in having to develop a program separately depending on OS.

Tmax OS is not going to resort to PC only, but it is also going after recent IT trends such as mobile, Cloud, IoT, AI and others. When Tmax announces the complete version of Tmax OS in October, it is also going to introduce an OS for Cloud. Tmax is going to promote this OS as a major resource that will lead PaaS (Platform as a Service) along with DBMS and middleware in Cloud environment. In 2017, Tmax is also entering mobile OS market that is dominated by Google and Apple.

“Although we only developed an OS for PCs, we will introduce an OS for Cloud in October.” said Director Yoo Woong-jin. “Our ultimate goal is to allow developers to easily develop AI in South Korean PaaS markets by using Tmax DBMS, middleware, OS and others.”

Industries are interested on how much Tmax will have success in global OS market where 95% of it is owned by MS. MS collected $662 million (750 billion KRW) just from Window and Office in South Korea. Tmax is planning to establish ‘Anti-MS’ camp with openness, convenience, and differentiated elements and actively go after MS.

“After going through a bitter loss from our first development of OS in 2009, we are going to release a perfect product that will go through rigorous tests.” said CEO Park Hak-rae of Tmax. “We are going to secure more than 20% in shares in OS market, which is dominated by MS, by going after foreign markets starting from next year.”

Tmax OS will be officially released in October. Personal product can be downloaded for free from homepage of Tmax whereas Tmax OS for businesses and organizations is going to be a paid service.

This presentation, which was broadcasted live through Youtube, was on halt for couple minutes as there was a problem during a process of delivering the video. Tmax explained that this problem occurred due to a delivery problem and not because of performance of Tmax OS.
That youtube launch event video appears to be this one, with 3457 views as of this posting.

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maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

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Su-Su-Sudoko
Oct 25, 2007

what stands in the way becomes the way

ShadowHawk posted:

devices such as mouse, keyboard and others can be operated through Tmax OS.

wow!!!

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored





same.

maniacdevnull posted:

5ing a shadowhawk thread

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Linux binary compatibility is a bad joke because there is no good linux software

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



is this free software, op?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






post the github op

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

Korean Engineer posted:

we are suffering as dogs.

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014
looks cool, i look forward to trying it out once released

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

Why does the entire suite have to be launched in one go? It's suggesting inferior everything otherwise they could launch the dev tools, office suite and everything on Windows already.

ShadowHawk
Jun 25, 2000

CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER

Endless Mike posted:

is this free software, op?
Pricing will be 50-70% that of Windows according to company

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
finally! cheaper alternative to software that is effectively free with every pc

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

can't wait to run office 2007 in 2017

ShadowHawk
Jun 25, 2000

CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2016/05/133_203046.html

quote:

"Korea is too reliant on the MS platform. Monopoly isn't good and it hurts the related ecosystem. Industries suffered from a decision by MS to terminate support of Windows XP in 2014 and this awakened the need for an independent OS."

They're claiming even more omni-compatibility than before:

quote:

"Because TmaxOS supports the programs and systems of Google Android, Apple iOS and MS Windows, users can easily experience TmaxOS with greater affordability."

And they're totally not just copying LibreOffice again either:

quote:

During the event, TmaxOS also released its patented digital publishing programs, which the company claims will compete with MS Office programs.

The TmaxOffice, which has the word processor ToWord, the presentation tool ToPoint and the spread sheet tool ToCell, supports formats with MS Office and Hanguel Office. Its web browser, ToGate, supports ActiveX technology.

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Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

ShadowHawk posted:

Its web browser, ToGate, supports ActiveX technology.

what kind of hosed up microsoft technology dependance does korea have to need activex support in tyool 2016

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored




im the garbage formatting on the wallpaper

mishaq posted:

what kind of hosed up microsoft technology dependance does korea have to need activex support in tyool 2016

i wanna say dumb financial software and banks because those move as fast as pitch

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Agile Vector posted:

i wanna say dumb financial software and banks because those move as fast as pitch

this

their banks & government decided TLS wasn't secure so they use activex plugins that do the encryption instead.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

ShadowHawk posted:

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2016/05/133_203046.html


They're claiming even more omni-compatibility than before:


And they're totally not just copying LibreOffice again either:



looks like gnome 2 me... OP

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



rude. those women are perfectly fine

There Will Be Penalty
May 18, 2002

Makes a great pet!

spankmeister posted:

this

their banks & government decided TLS wasn't secure so they use activex plugins that do the encryption instead.

looooooool

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

spankmeister posted:

this

their banks & government decided TLS wasn't secure so they use activex plugins that do the encryption instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEED

lmao

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

tmux is better

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

spankmeister posted:

this

their banks & government decided TLS wasn't secure so they use activex plugins that do the encryption instead.

I wonder if ATMs even work at all

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

ShadowHawk posted:

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2016/05/133_203046.html


They're claiming even more omni-compatibility than before:


And they're totally not just copying LibreOffice again either:









I'm the kerning that seriously disturbs my autism.


spankmeister posted:

this

their banks & government decided TLS wasn't secure so they use activex plugins that do the encryption instead.

jesus christ

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
it's also completely normal to use the korean equivalent of a social security number to sign up for web sites. not just banks and government. MMOs and poo poo will ask you for your government ID#

and all this is in a browser with activeX enabled. lol

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

it's also completely normal to use the korean equivalent of a social security number to sign up for web sites. not just banks and government. MMOs and poo poo will ask you for your government ID#

this is common in some european countries too

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug

huh, so at the time the TLS ciphers available outside the US were only 40-bit, and they made their own 128-bit cipher that at a glance doesn't seem to be completely broken? that seems like a relatively reasonable decision

and mozilla added the SEED cipher to firefox so there were non-activex implementations of it, but disabled it in firefox 27 since nobody in south korea seemed to actually use it (and i bet good luck getting support from a bank or government page if something went wrong and you werent using the activex control, i assume)

ShadowHawk
Jun 25, 2000

CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER
Guys I can't wait October is almost here, only 15 days left!

http://www.tmaxcloud.co.kr/

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014
im suffering like dog waiting for the release

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




what happens in 15 days?

Raere
Dec 13, 2007

already wiped my drive in preparation to install it

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


finally, the year of linux on the desktop

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

I thought Korea already had multiple YouTub clones.

Tweezer Reprise
Aug 6, 2013

It hasn't got six strings, but it's a lot of fun.
can't wait guys

AtomD
May 3, 2009

Fun Shoe

ShadowHawk posted:

Guys I can't wait October is almost here, only 15 days left!

http://www.tmaxcloud.co.kr/

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

why would I want the usability of macos when I already have the usability of windows 10

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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hot, please

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

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eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Displeased Moo Cow posted:

what happens in 15 days?

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