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August, the last month of Summer Back by appointment next July  Welcome to the UK Marxism Thread, where we discuss dialectical materialism and high voltage pulse generators. And Oberleutnant writes us a reading list. And hope dies. (Also UK Mega Thread; UK Manga Thread; Uberwachung Kommandant May, Theresa)  The Story So Far A long time ago, the United Kingdom was under a coalition government. Elections were upcoming, and all the polls predicted another hung parliament. David Cameron was not popular among his back benches, and he came up with a genius plan to promise an in/out referendum on He did this in the knowledge that in a second coalition he could throw it away immediately as a bargaining chip. This did not work. Liberal Democrat support evaporated and the Tories had a slim majority. Cameron had an election promise for a referendum that he didn't want. Labour, having lost under Ed Miliband and a sandwich, called a leadership election. They nominated a Red Tory, two Moderates, and a Socialist Jam Grandad. The latter was part of a tradition of the party left nominating a candidate each time, and the party as a whole being certain they would not win. Part of the reason that they were so certain this time was because they had moved to a new system which gave the leftist trade unions less power and the sensible centrist membership more power. This did not work. After a landslide win by Corbyn, his Unity cabinet immediately started leaking internal memos and trying to backstab him in a huge game of Mafia. Despite repeatedly calling Corbyn unelectable and Labour under Corbyn unelectable, Labour continued to pick up seats in local elections, as well as the London and Bristol mayoral elections. The entire press turned on Corbyn with the possible exceptions of the Mirror and Morning Star. The Guardian especially proved that Phil Ochs quote about liberals. During this time, a date and question were agreed for the EU referendum. The Conservative Party began to form two rival factions based on their Remain/Leave stance and campaigns began. Cameron and Osborne headed up the Remain camp with Liberal Democrat support. Johnson and Gove headed up the Leave camp with UKIP support. A few fracturing sides formed and vied for dominance for a while. Leave campaigned mostly on 75 million Turks clawing at the borders and the EU having 700 laws about your mattress. Remain campaigned mostly on the economy, confident that the facts would win out. This did not work. Immediately after Leave won the referendum, both the Tories and Labour fell into complete disarray. Angela Eagle led a Labour coup, citing Corbyn's failure to share a platform with Tories and Lib Dems as the reason that Remain lost. Her campaign website was revealed to be set up before the results came in. The Tories began a comparatively clean set of backstabbing, Cameron resigned, Johnson didn't show up to Parliament, Gove and Fox and Pube Beard dropped out of the leadership rapidly. This left former Home Secretary Theresa May (a remainer) and relative unknown Andrea Leadsom (a leaver). The Conservatives began to prepare for a leadership election. This did not work. Leadsom dropped out of the race citing almost exactly the same 'media pressures' as Chuka Umunna did when they found out about his gay mephedrone brandy parties. In Leadsom's case it was supposedly because she made some comments about motherhood or was a mother or something. This meant that May strolled into the PM position uncontested and began to build a cabinet. It was revealed that Gove and his wife plotted to backstab Johnson, in the hope of a shot at the title or a higher cabinet position. This did not work. Johnson was invited back to a great office despite his fuckery, possibly just to keep him out of the way. A Unity cabinet of Leave and Remain backers was created with some new and old faces. Meanwhile on the other side of the floor, Labour's coup was continuing its descent into complete poo poo. Their timed hourly resignations completely overshadowed the original Tory chaos, and Eagle had stepped up and down about a dozen times. The PLP decided that the best way to run this was to ratfuck Corbyn out of his position by claiming that incumbents still needed the same number of nominations as challengers, thus meaning they could run someone unopposed and maybe win. This ended up going to the NEC, where they believed by having a secret ballot everyone's inner anti-Corbyn would allow them to safely remove him from the ballot. This did not work. The party also started to think of ways to undo all that tiresome membership stuff that got Corbyn elected in the first place. They decided that any member who joined in the past 6 months should be disenfranchised. They also raised the registered supporter fee to £25 and cut the application time down to three days, half of which the server was out of action, hoping that the grassroots Corbynites would be scared off by the poll tax. This did not work. Having raised millions through the supporter scheme, and getting more registered supporters than they did the first time around at £3, the PLP looked increasingly nervous that they would have to actually run an election. The local CLPs got a bit tired of this and started threatening deselection for MPs involved in the coup. This got classed as 'abuse' and CLP meetings were suspended until after the leadership elections. The PLP finally managed to find a candidate to represent their values, whatever they are, in the form of Owen Smith, former Pfizer PR man. Eagle stood down again. As a last ditch attempt, major Labour (brain?) donor Michael Foster launched a lawsuit to get Corbyn removed from the ballot by force of law. This did not work. This now leaves the UK in the state of an upcoming Brexit (but not this year), a Labour Party in disarray, and a Labour leadership election at some point in the future, probably with Corbyn running against a pumpkin with a Tony Blair mask. In Summary Conservatives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95I29rCaFjA Labour:  Liberal Democrats:  UKIP:  The United Kingdom as a Whole:  What Else Is Happening? • UKIP leader Nigel Farage resigns again, starting a hunt for a leader conditional on a minimum of five years membership. • After a 7 year wait, the Chilcot Inquiry report into the Iraq War is released. Tony lied, thousands died. • The Trident nuclear weapons platform is voted for renewal by a high majority. Theresa May would use it in retaliation. Owen Smith might use it on Trump. • The European Data Protection Supervisor has spoken out against government (or corporate) mandated backdoors into encryption. Hopefully May will not be able to wriggle out. • A heatwave of 95F (308K in the Express) hits the South. • The Isle of Man opens up both marriages and civil partnerships to same and mixed sex couples. Northern Ireland burns a witch or something. • Distributed ledger technology GovCoin is being used in trials of benefit payments, to allow monitoring of spending. There is no way this will be terrible. • Wales did a football, it was good. My hen laid a haddock on top of a tree &c. • The skies are opened up for Amazon drone delivery in the UK, reminding everyone that clay trap is a fun sport for all the family. • UK economic activity fell to 47.7, the lowest level since April 2009 and falling at its fastest rate since the aftermath of the 2009 financial crisis. Typical Remainiac scaremongering. • Labour MP Conor McGinn accused Corbyn of bullying, and claimed that he threatened to call his "Sinn Féin dad".  The May Coups Glorious Revolution UKMT July 2016 UKRIP June 2016 Brextravaganza! UKMT May 2016 UKMT April 2016 UKMT March 2016 UKMT February 2016 Saxon Peasants' Revolt Brexit Financial Crisis Thread Act Anent the Demission Scotpol Thread St. George's Night Uprising EDL/Fash Thread Beer Hall Putsch Europol Thread Young Turk Revolution Paedogeddon/Press Corruption Thread Great Upheaval Trainchat Thread Regime of the Colonels Political Cartoons Thread Cauliflower Revolution #ukgoons on synIRC. It's mostly active during Question Time, but there's always some people around (thanks crispix). Finally, keep the following in mind quote:1. It's not a person's fault if they are poor; Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Aug 16, 2016 |
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I'd honestly forgotten it's August today.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:07
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Everythings hosed. You're hosed. I'm hosed. We're all hosed. Tea anybody?
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Aug 1, 2016 00:09
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Farewell David Cameron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
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Aug 1, 2016 00:09
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Tesseraction posted:I'd honestly forgotten it's August today. Maybe because it's tomorrow
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Aug 1, 2016 00:10
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Kurtofan posted:Maybe because it's tomorrow You posted this at ten past midnight.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:11
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Guavanaut posted:Act Anent the Demission This needs updating as it still links to the old Scotpol thread.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:12
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So do "young people" in the UK actually call themselves Millennials or is it just something the media likes to call them?
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Aug 1, 2016 00:12
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Sinn Fein Dadd is still great.Paxman posted:So do "young people" in the UK actually call themselves Millennials or is it just something the media likes to call them? Given that Young People can refer to anyone from the age of about eight to 35 I'm not sure.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:12
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Paxman posted:So do "young people" in the UK actually call themselves Millennials or is it just something the media likes to call them? 'Millenials' is a shibboleth of the middle-aged-plus idiot who really resents people younger than them for still having functioning livers.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:14
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Paxman posted:So do "young people" in the UK actually call themselves Millennials or is it just something the media likes to call them? I don't call "myself" a millennial but I recognise it as a term to mean my generation and I do identify (among many other things) as a Gen Y/someone who got hosed by the boomers/leave voters. However I do not think the majority of young people are even aware they're being hosed: My younger brother is about to start university. He's a member of the Lib Dems. LemonyTang fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Aug 1, 2016 00:15
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Extreme0 posted:This needs updating as it still links to the old Scotpol thread. Paxman posted:So do "young people" in the UK actually call themselves Millennials or is it just something the media likes to call them? It's as bad as 'Generation X' which iirc is anyone born from the mid-60s to the mid-80s and I don't think anyone was using as a real thing by the time people born around the tail end were growing up. Or 'MTV generation'.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:18
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I like to think of myself as part of the "stupid degree and student loan" generation.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:22
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Considering the poo poo we've been up to lately, "millenarians" might be a better fit.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:22
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So Scotland still favours staying in the UK, I hear. That's... good?
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Aug 1, 2016 00:22
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I'm a millennium
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Aug 1, 2016 00:23
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Kiwi poster here, but what's this about government-mandated encryption backdoors? There's no way that doesn't backfire horribly.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:25
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So I lost track of your lovely doglander politics around July 10th when people were beggining to talk about the anti-Corbyn election. I don't wanna read 10k posts to catch up. Anyone got a list of greatest hits since then? e: not just the stuff in the OP. Like maybe something about eagle tripping over her own feet and falling face first into a pie or something i dunno funny posts and news articles is what i mean
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Aug 1, 2016 00:25
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Schizotek posted:So I lost track of your lovely doglander politics around July 10th when people were beggining to talk about the anti-Corbyn election. I don't wanna read 10k posts to catch up. Anyone got a list of greatest hits since then? Man that is not a question to ask us at half midnight. Too much stupid poo poo last month.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:28
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Anticheese posted:Kiwi poster here, but what's this about government-mandated encryption backdoors? There's no way that doesn't backfire horribly. The government wants all communications to have backdoors that MI5 can look at. All communications that may enter the UK. Which means all global communications platforms have to give MI5 backdoors into their encryption, even if the platforms themselves don't have that ability. No the government doesn't think this is at all a silly request.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:30
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Schizotek posted:So I lost track of your lovely doglander politics around July 10th when people were beggining to talk about the anti-Corbyn election. I don't wanna read 10k posts to catch up. Anyone got a list of greatest hits since then? Someone post the "please clap" and "Angela looking bewildered at Boris being the foreign minister" please.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:30
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Anticheese posted:Kiwi poster here, but what's this about government-mandated encryption backdoors? There's no way that doesn't backfire horribly. This is a bad idea for certain industry sectors and is only really enforceable for UK based companies so a bad idea for British businesses. And the legislation has been kinda patchy about the actual involvement of signed warrants reviewed by judges. The European Data Protection Supervisor has outright said that government or corporate encryption backdoors do more harm than good, so hopefully if she wants to negotiate this Brexit and retain any kind of market compatibility with Europe she'll have to at least listen to that.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:30
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Anticheese posted:Kiwi poster here, but what's this about government-mandated encryption backdoors? There's no way that doesn't backfire horribly. Hey, this is from the government which worked hard to ban legal highs. Not specific ones, legal highs as a concept. Gonna take the opportunity to repost Brexit: The (Abridged) Movie for the new thread: https://vimeo.com/175840985
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Aug 1, 2016 00:31
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Pureauthor posted:So Scotland still favours staying in the UK, I hear. It's a bit more complicated then that as there is over 59% Don't knows added up with the 18-24 & 25-49 age demographic together when relating to the question of Indy Scotland in Single Market or Scotland/UK w/ single market, the under 50s weighed more towards Indy even with the don't knows. It also didn't have 16-17s field either despite Scottish Voting now being allowed for 16 year olds. Basically, they found 503 under 50s and 503 over 50s and the under 50s were more cautious rather then making a concrete decision. Honestly, just wait till Brexit happens and the shitfests that comes from it because of Tory incompetence. People haven't felt the full blown blunt of the decision yet even with what's happened because we are still part of the EU right now.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:33
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Grouchio posted:Farewell David Cameron: Here's another Cameron-related video. It's in German, but it's easy to grasp most of their feelings towards Cameron.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:35
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Pissflaps is coming
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Aug 1, 2016 00:36
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JFairfax posted:Pissflaps is coming Sic transit gloria UKMT.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:40
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JFairfax posted:Pissflaps is coming
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Aug 1, 2016 00:43
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OwlFancier posted:The government wants all communications to have backdoors that MI5 can look at. I kinda want to see a government actually go through with this kind of poo poo just so they can see what an awful idea it really is when hackers are exploiting it within the first 10 minutes of implementation.
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Aug 1, 2016 00:47
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Mr. Nemo posted:Someone post the "please clap" and "Angela looking bewildered at Boris being the foreign minister" please. Can't find Please Clap, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XoCOywuNfw
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Aug 1, 2016 00:48
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https://twitter.com/BobbyFaghihi/status/758597388776898560
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Aug 1, 2016 00:56
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josh04 posted:Hey, this is from the government which worked hard to ban legal highs. Not specific ones, legal highs as a concept. thank you for reposting because i hadn't seen that before
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Aug 1, 2016 01:13
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Tesseraction posted:You posted this at ten past midnight. the day begins when the sun rises
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Aug 1, 2016 01:13
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Reading Owen Jone's latest with amusement. Some of it feels familiar. quote:I’m somebody who campaigned for Corbyn, I’m a left-wing journalist. But I’m genuinely not clear on the policies being offered. It seems as though Ed Miliband presented his policies as less left-wing than they actually were, and now the current leadership presents them as more left-wing than they actually are. It’s presentation, style and sentiment that seem to differ most. The same people alienated by a similar offer are now the most enthusiastic about it. But surely the aim should be to develop radical policies and present them as being commonsense and moderate — not as super radical in a way the substance doesn’t justify. The danger is similar policies are being offered by a leadership regarded as less competent, more “extreme” and less popular.
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Aug 1, 2016 02:25
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/30/jeremy-corbyn-strengthening-workers-rights-labour-priority Jez posts an article and a bunch of trolls write a bunch of posts talking about France for some reason. Completely co-incidentally, of course. I'm not one to normally believe ~*the powers that be*~ are running co-ordinated astroturf campaigns on newspaper comment sites but it does make me wonder.
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Aug 1, 2016 05:21
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Love the OP recap, terrific summary. If my country (Australia) wasn't already more hosed up than yours, I'd almost feel sorry for you.
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Aug 1, 2016 05:36
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Mr Dog posted:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/30/jeremy-corbyn-strengthening-workers-rights-labour-priority You mean like all the twitter bots making Owen Smith trend? It's standardised spam bot behaviour apparently, or Owen Smith is simply deeply popular with soul less robots. http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/...orse-than-that/
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Just continuing the mandatory voting chat from last thread, it's great, but you'd never get anyone in power to agree to a 'none of the above' option. You just need to make people aware that it's showing up to a polling booth and getting their name ticked off that's compulsory. If they want to draw a vulva or cock on their ballot paper and hand that in as an informal vote that's their democratic right.
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