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Kurtofan posted:I keep reading Guardian comment and it's crazy how right wing they are, especially when it came to Muslims. This is normal. Rightwingers go to the Guardian website to troll and/or be outraged, and I guess lefties go to the Daily Heil likewise?
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 11:47 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 07:52 |
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And, also, pensioners are hardly poverty stricken in general these days, contrary to historical perception. Even not taking into account who owns houses in our society, they're still one of the better off age groups. God forbid you talk about cutting their benefits though, they're nothing like those scrounging shirkers of working age you see.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 14:29 |
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Zephro posted:True, although most people don't think of it as a benefit. The fact there's some contributory principle involved (ie you have to earn eligible years through NI contributions) masks the fact that it's just paid out of ordinary taxation like any other benefit and you're not actually contributing to any kind of fund like you would be in a private pension. That's one reason people are so resistant to talk of it ever being cut. But unemployment benefits are also in theory earned through NI contributions, no? That's why NI was originally introduced.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 15:08 |
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Jedit posted:Good news, public sector pensions are no longer linked to final salary but against an average of your salary during your employment! Good news unless you're a public sector worker approaching retirement age, that is, as you've spent all those years paying into a scheme thinking it would suffice only to be told the terms have changed and you've lost most of it. Yeah, but that doesn't apply to people who've already retired, presumably. Baby boomers still make bank, the rest of us are progressively more hosed the younger we are.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 16:19 |
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Just got a text: 'Jeremy Corbyn here. I'm running for leader to build a Labour movement serious about winning power. Will you back me? Reply YES, NO or MAYBE. Or STOP to opt out.' At least Our Jezza doesn't text in the middle of the night like your needy ex.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 19:38 |
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Tigey posted:'And you are lynching negroes' Actually agreeing with HorseLord on this one. People bring this up as some kind of Communist rhetorical trick, but when you as a country are pretty much A-OK with black people being strung up on a rope at the slightest provocation, perhaps you don't sound very convincing shouting about freedom and state oppresion and so forth when you bitch about poo poo like gulags. I mean, with a gulag you at least might end up coming out of it alive.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 21:29 |
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Kurtofan posted:Individual crime/private crime is different from state crime. I would argue that Jim Crow was and is, in fact, state crime.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 21:41 |
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30.5 Days posted:Sometimes I'm just hanging out and I remember that liberals, whose primary political feature is the worship of power, have their own third party in that crazy ol country of yours. Then I remember that other liberals are threatening to start a second one. You can accuse the Lib Dems of many things, but historically at least 'worship of power' isn't one of them what with the not winning elections and all. If you're joining politics solely for power, you join the Tories.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 11:20 |
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I especially like 'With each “registered supporter” paying £25 for the right to vote in the contest, party coffers could still benefit from around upto £4 million in extra income. The party keeps the cash from those it deems unsuitable.'
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 11:35 |
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Pissflaps posted:I'd guess that the T&Cs stated that this would be the case. I didn't say it was illegal or anything. It's still a bit poo poo. 'Nope you can't vote because reasons but we're keeping your money anyway sucka!'
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 11:40 |
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LeoMarr posted:Is the Labor election rigged. because acorbyn is a blairite in disguise. Ask Auspol?
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 19:58 |
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Guavanaut posted:Does it come with the light gun and Duck Hunt though? It does not, because for nerdy technical reasons the light gun will only work with CRT televisions/monitors and no one has those any more
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 18:09 |
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XMNN posted:apart from getting drunk in a field obv Tech nerd spotted (not at EMF but a bunch of people I know are)
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 19:39 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Four nights, four dinners disturbed by calls from canvassers for Owen Smith. One more and I'm loving voting BNP. Lol if you have a land line in TYOOL 2016, or if you have a mobile and answer unknown numbers rather than letting them go to voicemail.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 19:53 |
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forkboy84 posted:Having a landline is useful because it means I can get away with never remembering to put credit on my phone. Luv 2 giffgaff
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 20:48 |
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OwlFancier posted:If you toast your cheese and salmon sandwich I don't know what's wrong with you. Bagels are nice toasted but I wouldn't eat one raw. A proper American bagel is great raw. Our 'New York Bagel Company' ones not so much.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 10:27 |
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big scary monsters posted:The difference between then and now is that previously machines only did the hard, physical labour. Machines now are starting to do the mental labour as well. As far as I can see all that's left is jobs that require a "human touch"; emotion and a feeling of connection. And don't think people aren't trying hard to copy that too. Umm yeah, as a programmer, call me back when strong AI is actually a thing. There's a limit to machine intelligence; my job has been due to be replaced by computers 'in a decade or two from now' pretty much since the 1950s.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 10:41 |
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Pesky Splinter posted:It's almost unbelievable how much of this coup attempt has been a colossal gently caress-up. This poo poo would embarrass a student union political society, it's hilarious to be honest.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 12:32 |
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forkboy84 posted:Why? £25 is a lot of money to some people. If you're single, have no kids & work full-time, sure you can probably afford to donate £25 to the Labour Party. But shouldn't a donation be optional? This was the disenfranchisement of thousands of members in order to cynically raise cash for the party. 'Capitalist courts'? If we had socialist courts the Labour Party wouldn't be having this trouble, comrade.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 14:35 |
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brian posted:So with the NEC now with 6 new lefty types, does that mean they can call off the appeal of the judge ruling from earlier today? I assume they dont take office instantly?
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 19:40 |
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TinTower posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3UyT0Dk_j8 Miscegenation
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2016 09:32 |
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Surprised they didn't go with the Jacobite version, that's got way more actual legitimacy and of course features a man coming over from
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2016 10:43 |
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Also, the Guardian has a not-poo poo article for once: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/09/jeremy-corbyn-supporters-voters-labour-leader-politics
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2016 11:16 |
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forkboy84 posted:My view is that I stand with all comrades on strike. Solidarity is our best weapon. This. Also I live in Oxfordshire so I'm not inconvenienced in any case
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2016 14:04 |
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Barry Foster posted:Just come back from the Bristol West CLP nomination meeting. I had to leave early but the Corbyn supporters were getting a bigger response, so that's potentially good for the old ballot. Consider where most Blairites came from. For a careerist, SU/NUS to Spad to losing a no hoper seat to being parachuted into a winnable seat is the normal trajectory. These are aspiring Blairites fearing losing out on their expected career trajectory.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2016 21:39 |
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Give me a tram. Not my city, just me personally.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 13:34 |
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So lads what do we think of this? http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/10/tom-watson-sends-corbyn-proof-of-trotskyist-labour-infiltration Also the guy who runs Militant says Corbyn will let him back in if he wins. (Interesting timing that, both stories coming out simultaneously )
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 17:01 |
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Technically the CNT is the union not the FAI
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 18:58 |
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Jedit posted:A study has shown that people who like HP Sauce are more likely to have voted to leave the EU. Up against the wall, motherfuckers! I prefer Daddy's myself.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 13:04 |
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Good lord http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/12/tory-mp-philip-davies-claims-uk-legal-system-favours-women-at-mens-rights-event 'A Tory MP has spoken at a men’s rights conference hosted by an anti-feminism party, telling the audience that “feminist zealots really do want women to have their cake and eat it”. Philip Davies, the Conservative MP for Shipley, delivered a 45-minute speech at the International Conference on Men’s Issues, organised by the Justice for Men and Boys (J4MB) party.' I guess I shouldn't be surprised there are literal red-pill Tory MPs?
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 11:33 |
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The Saurus posted:Pissflaps, how does it make you feel that I was able to vote, and convince multiple others to vote for Brexit while living in a lovely town in a very economically strong part of the United States, meaning I will suffer none of the consequences whatsoever while still getting to be smug and happy about it happening? How many Americans did you persuade to vote for Trump?
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2016 12:12 |
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hakimashou posted:Corbyn is for sure the closest thing to a commie to have that high a position in either of our countries, singing about red flags and stuff. I mean you couldn't really blame any competent security service for at least keeping an eye on him to make sure he's harmless. It's not every day you get to see the leader of a major political party in the anglosphere sing "though cowards flinch and traitors sneer, we'll keep the red flag flying here." You have got to be trolling. You realise the Red Flag has been the Labour anthem since it's inception, right? The entire Labour Party conference sings it (badly) every year and has done for like a century.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 13:29 |
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CoolCab posted:and there were several times American interests have cast shade on the special relationship because of England's socialist ways, this was a big part of the media reaction to the Suez crisis for example, iirc. it only went away in our lifetimes because there hasn't been a socialist in power (or opposition really) for 30+ years Ummm I super super doubt that since Suez was the last gasp of British imperialism and the yanks promptly told us to knock it off. I mean, the PM at the time was noted hardcore Communist Robert Anthony Eden, later 1st Earl of Avon . Socialists generally oppose Suez type stuff.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 14:47 |
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hakimashou posted:I don't think the Democratic Party has an anthem at any rate so I didn't realize the labor party did. I remember people posting videos of Cornyn singing the red flag thing when he won like it was a big deal. Shh noone show this guy the video where he goes to a meeting and they all sing the Internationale. I mean, that was literally the Soviet national anthem in the 20s
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 14:58 |
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CoolCab posted:Maybe I'm misremembering, but there was some mid-50s crisis where the American media response was full of Red Scare era trashing of the U.K. government. I was pretty sure it was the Suez Crisis. If I had to guess it would be something like the Cambridge spy ring in the early 60s, which did involve actual Communists spying for the Soviet Union and when that came out it caused their spooks to heavily distrust our spooks. That's not the UK government as a whole, though.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 15:12 |
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thespaceinvader posted:There's a cap on increases, there was some discussion in the CLP last year about whether it's worth a local rederencdum to ask about increases - because that's the only way to do it, but it costs a goddamn fortune. That cap is 2.something% though...
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 14:19 |
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Tesseraction posted:Speaking of which what games are people playing at the moment? I've started to go back to Xbox 360/PS3 generation JRPGs. Mount and Blade, mostly. Axe to the face!
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2016 11:17 |
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Tesseraction posted:What's that like, anyway? Well, the graphics are p poo poo by modern standards, and the map side of the game is fairly ehhh (though I'm playing with the Floris mod, which helps), but it's just fun to chop people up with axes and shoot them with bows. It's quite fun as a mediaeval punchup simulator. And there's a sequel coming out Sometime Soon (tm).
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2016 12:46 |
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Pissflaps posted:Only one of the two Labours could remain relevant - and that'll be whichever faction gets to use the Labour name. Maybe we can finally have the 'Labor' party the yank entryists into this thread keep banging on about.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2016 15:45 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 07:52 |
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Just got an email, 'Dear Joel, You should receive your ballot for the Labour leadership election by the end of August, with some of the first ballots arriving next week.' itshappening.gif
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2016 19:10 |