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Aug 1, 2016 01:02
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Jedit posted:Good news, public sector pensions are no longer linked to final salary but against an average of your salary during your employment! Good news unless you're a public sector worker approaching retirement age, that is, as you've spent all those years paying into a scheme thinking it would suffice only to be told the terms have changed and you've lost most of it. In nursing at least people above a certain age got offered the choice Nobody I ever met chose the new pension.
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Aug 1, 2016 19:11
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Is this guy bigging up Stalin of all people?
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Aug 1, 2016 23:12
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Stalin's ussr is a pretty good example of how not to do communism
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Aug 1, 2016 23:13
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HorseLord posted:My fourth bit is wondering why you think I'd even care that people went to gulags. Lol yeah idgaf about fair trials. Secret police ftw
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Aug 2, 2016 00:08
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Enemies of the revolution also deserve a lawful trial, and humane imprisonment
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Aug 2, 2016 00:12
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Death to all who oppose anime
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Aug 2, 2016 00:13
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Stalin slaughtered millions and that's pretty hosed up, imo.
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Aug 2, 2016 00:17
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If the Tories are scum because their policies lead to the deaths of people with disabilities, then Stalin is scum for being responsible for the death of millions. Killing is bad.
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Aug 2, 2016 00:18
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A country ruled by a communist party is not truly communist, because the end goal is for the people to rule themselves
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Aug 2, 2016 00:20
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A leader and his inner circle living in luxury while the people starve. That's not communism, that's tyranny.
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Aug 2, 2016 00:22
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HorseLord posted:Yes, because when you have done a big communist revolution you don't want to let the anticommunists hang around and undo that. This is 101 poo poo. You want people to be allowed to treason against socialism, go found the Union Of Liberal Democracies. If the revolution is righteous and the people are free then you don't need to have your secret police arrest or murder dissidents, because they'll come around of their own accord
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Aug 2, 2016 00:24
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double post
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Aug 2, 2016 00:24
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Guavanaut posted:What if the revolution is righteous and the people are almost free but a band of former landowners with considerable past glory decide to rabble-rouse a section of the people and they want to ban anime? Then the revolution isn't finished
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Aug 2, 2016 00:28
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HorseLord posted:Yes I'm sure the bourgeoisie, nobility and aristocracy can be politely persuaded to give up everything and not make any power grabs. After they see their former employees move to housing with indoor plumbing, they'll definitely agree that its worth no longer owning a palace, three village's worth of farmland, or a several million dollar concern. I'm going to be a liberal fucker and suggest there's a middle ground between polite persuasion and mass murder
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Aug 2, 2016 00:32
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Oberleutnant posted:Lots of the people stalin had killed were longstanding party members you shitlord. Yeah....anticommunist party members
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Aug 2, 2016 00:52
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Stalin was a oval office, lad. A murderous oval office.
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Aug 2, 2016 01:07
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Ah, a stealth 3 million innocent deaths minimum. Stalin is clearly a good person we should aspire to become.
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Aug 2, 2016 01:45
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Angepain posted:Look if you're not exactly sure how many the number is then it's not worth caring about, for more information don't see also the entire discipline of statistics It's more than 0 innocent deaths, the only stat that matters
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Aug 2, 2016 01:58
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HorseLord posted:Don't quote people on my ignore list. Pissflaps posted:About 70 million people on it, isn't there?
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Aug 2, 2016 21:56
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There's a bunch of fantasy in the original article by expecting corbyn to win back Scotland from a party that is not only comparatively left (but not really) but also nationalists
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Aug 3, 2016 23:51
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LeoMarr posted:its kind of funny seeing the thoughts of average brits today. It may take 5 years before a civil war or a fascist dictatorship erupt. But the whole "Everything will be okay!" poo poo will never end. Strangely enough no matter who is in power they will need sweeping legislative abilities to untangle the UK from the EU. With these powers being used consistently wouldn't it be safe to say some get a little corrupt and things lead to a fascist or communist government cementing its hold? I left the UK 3 hours after brexit. Its the inter period now. May rolled into the PMship. Practically a British Weimar republic but that's yet to be seen. Maybe May can campaign on Laura Roslin leading the colonies to greatness in BSG. I mean they were both nothings before major events took place. Anyway, she walked into the PMship. most people said 'Thank got it wasnt -any fascis, full communist or Corbyn" But you all know its coming. In our loving lifetime there will be a very nasty government in the UK. How or who is in this government is yet to be known. but one will come that puts ya'll into some degree of political/countrywide hell. Brexit was a delayed-blood revolution. and here we are. the Inter Period. Sober up lad
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Aug 3, 2016 23:59
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Coohoolin posted:Can we cut this out? By objective or ukmt standards sure, the snp isn't a "leftist" party, but by UK standards? Absolutely. The only party left that is explicitly Pro immigration, anti trident, pro free health care at any level and pro free University education. It's getting a bit tedious. Haha I'm never going to stop now.
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Aug 4, 2016 00:00
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LeoMarr posted:you just wait. You'll think about this when May does a snap GE and Labor literally dies. itll be at the height of the leadership contest. At the largest divide May will walk the tories into a 2/3s parlimentary majority. I'm no political expert but I suspect that may can't call a ge that quickly. First she has to recall parliament, win a vote under the terms of fixed term parliaments act, the set a date with the sufficient legal timeframe for campaigning. Leadership election is September iirc. I'm not sure why I'm bothering to correct you really, or engaging with you, but you're wrong.
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Aug 4, 2016 00:37
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LeoMarr posted:Correct me if I am wrong but she doesnt need to actually call a G.E. If she had a 2/3rds majority in Parlimrnt she can call one early. Or if she were to engineer a vote of no confidence on her own government wouldnt that dissolve parliment? I mean, your point was that may could call a snap ge and wipe out Labour during the leadership contest. She can't. She can engineer events so that a ge is held before 2020 using the means you stated, but she can't hold one before September. I don't think Labour lose their spot as the opposition by voting against a ge, because they're the largest not Tory party and that's what opposition means. Also it's Labour, not labor
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Aug 4, 2016 01:01
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If you're going to be an obnoxious troll, can you at least know how the system works?
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Aug 4, 2016 01:03
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HorseLord posted:mate That's a really heavy outfit for a guy to be wearing.
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Aug 4, 2016 01:06
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Wait I know the problem, you prefer your police to be secret.
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Aug 4, 2016 01:07
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LeoMarr posted:Okay if you say 'No' to GE vote doesnt that mean you have no confidence in your ability to form a government? doesnt that clearly go against what the opposition is? Labour
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Aug 4, 2016 01:09
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LeoMarr posted:I use the common Labor since Corbyn is a communist. Labour is a proper noun, the name of the party notable socialist Corbyn leads. Congrats on googling ways that a ge may happen, but none of those things can cause an election before the Labour leadership election happens. Tories campaigned for 2015 with the manifesto commitment of holding an European referendum, they held the referendum.
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Aug 4, 2016 01:20
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If a ge happened today, I suspect that the Tories wouldn't gain more seats, definitely not enough for a 2/3 majority. In the current climate I'd suspect ukip to do better out of a snap ge. Scotland would be unchanged. Labour would still be the opposition.
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Aug 4, 2016 01:24
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Ideally Labour should look to go into coalition with the snp, but English voters would reject this if it were official policy because of bitterness about the indyref and a perception that Scotland unfairly benefits from barnett
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Aug 4, 2016 01:27
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HorseLord posted:Please explain this reference. Your insatiable lust for secret police and genocide..
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Aug 4, 2016 01:36
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LeoMarr posted:labor would lose their sole scot seat to SNP.UKIP Would gain 1 seat. Labor would be at 133(-99) in a GE A far cry from May getting a 2/3 majority even if your fantasy of a snap ge came true.
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Aug 4, 2016 01:37
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I'll bite, how do the Tories win uh, 95 seats. Does the north forgive Thatcher? Do urban areas go against their historical voting patterns? Do the Tories somehow win every marginal? You're full of poo poo.
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Aug 4, 2016 01:45
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HorseLord posted:Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn is not a reputable source. I uh, disagree.
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Aug 4, 2016 01:49
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LeoMarr posted:It isnt Tories who have to win the marginals. Its anyone but Labor. Labor has 100 seats on margins currently. if they get half if them they will still be a rump No you're saying that the conservatives win 95 more seats than they have now. Where do these seats come from?
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Aug 4, 2016 01:51
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StoneOfShame posted:The majority of criticism aimed at him comes from apologists. Funny that horselord should criticise him...
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Aug 4, 2016 01:53
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Chucat posted:
Reply with "I'm voting Corbyn mate"
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