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Private Speech posted:I'm sure the referendum campaign didn't help, what with the Turkish hordes, swarms of Syrian migrants that bonkers EU takes in, implying Iraq and Syria will join the EU, all that. Truly, this referendum brought racism to our shores. If only we could have held on to the racial harmony of 2015 when our nation was super not-racist. Hmmm no I still got harassed in the streets.
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Seriously I'm getting rather pissed that people claim the Brexit debate made the UK more racist compared to the reality that Britain has been so loving racist you wouldn't believe. You're only noticing it now. The Polish resident being murdered? Jo Cox being murdered in the street? You really believe this happened in the isolation of a referendum? I envy you.
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*ignores Daily Mail, Daily Express* hmmm yess the UK is super not-racist and nothing racial could occur
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StoneOfShame posted:I hate Good Riddance, Minority is alright. These albums are all great. British punk is having a bit of a renaissance as well, maybe it's 6 years of horrific tory rule. Autonomads, Atterkop, The Sporadics, Pale Angels, Bangers, Wonk Unit, Spanner, Luvdump, Oi Polloi, Slaves & Sleaford Mods have all put out great albums recently. (also I still love American Idiot, no regrets)
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Spangly A posted:Sarkozy went insane after Bataclan. A lot of french people did. He has not recovered. Hollande? Sarkozy has no formal position
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Is there any actual chance of May being successful in scrapping the Human Rights Act? Also holy poo poo this is rather a bit more Weimar than I expected.
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Good OP but you misspelled the airship's name. It's actually called the SkyBum
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/31/londons-elite-pushed-out-of-exclusive-postcodes-by-super-richquote:London’s traditional elite, such as lawyers, architects and academics, are being pushed out of their enclaves in Mayfair, Chelsea and Hampstead by an influx of global super rich investors, causing a chain reaction of gentrification across the capital, according to research by the London School of Economics. 
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A lovely Reporter posted:Checking in from the US to say I loving envy all of you for having someone as great as Corbyn in politics over there. Shame the majority of your country are racist morons. Man, I wish we had someone like him, too. Our left is mostly made up of very strange aliens impersonating humans very badly. Or incompetent clowns, if you go a bit more to the center of the political spectre. At least our political right is full of clowns, too.
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Tesseraction posted:The Polish resident being murdered? Jo Cox being murdered in the street? You really believe this happened in the isolation of a referendum? the political drama of the referendum did nothing to help and in all likelihood did contribute to these events taking place. of course there were issues before, but brexit stoked the fire by putting immigration at the top of the agenda.
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Zephro posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/31/londons-elite-pushed-out-of-exclusive-postcodes-by-super-rich Rich assholes encounter even richer assholes. Sounds more like someone -ing over not being the biggest fish in the pond anymore.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Guavanaut posted:Special Piss Po' Roundup Who comes up with this bullshit, ASBOs are already dumb enough as is.
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Zephro posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/31/londons-elite-pushed-out-of-exclusive-postcodes-by-super-rich This is very very similar to an article a few months ago whining and handwringing about poor academics and assorted liberal middle classes being forced out of london where historically they "improved society from the comfort of their salons" (i'm paraphrasing slightly). It's really loving funny because i'm guessing some sub-editor can't afford a mortgage on a place he wants in kensington or whatever and is real loving bitter about it.
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blowfish posted:Who comes up with this bullshit, ASBOs are already dumb enough as is. So basically the same people behind every other gutting of social/public services in exchange for banning poo poo. Zephro posted:Good OP but you misspelled the airship's name. It's actually called the SkyBum lol I wonder what the results would be if the question said 'wetsuits' instead of 'scary foreign terror rags'.
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Oberleutnant posted:This is very very similar to an article a few months ago whining and handwringing about poor academics and assorted liberal middle classes being forced out of london where historically they "improved society from the comfort of their salons" (i'm paraphrasing slightly). To be fair it's a big problem if the 99% are totally priced out of their city, though it's still hilarious when it's the 2nd percentile complaining about the 1st.
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Yeah that's what's funny about it. A reasonable complaint would be the critical lack of social housing in most cities, but you know these fucks wouldn't be seen dead in a council house
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Tesseraction posted:Seriously I'm getting rather pissed that people claim the Brexit debate made the UK more racist compared to the reality that Britain has been so loving racist you wouldn't believe. You're only noticing it now. Brexit didn't make anyone racist, and I don't think I read anyone here suggesting that. What the concerted effort to use brazen appeals to staple fascist demagoguery did was let people know it was actually okay to be entirely open about their racism again, to revel in it, and to associate it with the bland, stodgy nationalism our dear nation favours. The press have screamed "breaking point" and gotten to the level of discourse where they can have articles calling asylum seekers cockroaches and suggest their murder on the open seas, lest they molest our fair shores (or little white girls) and that is what millions of people read day in, day out, for years. It's seen as reputable and truthful. People stuck an X in a box marked brexit but was really marked as "gently caress immigrants/muslims/scroungers SAVE YOUR COUNTRY" to them. And then they took the result as the go ahead to start telling people to gently caress off home on the bus when they might have previously shut their vapid loving mouth. Some of them celebrated by marching around the street singing songs to suggest that "pakis" go home, as soon as they heard the result. They posted a bit of hate mail against the Czech family down the road. Maybe some dogshit next time. And that keeps going, and now (more) people are getting kicked to death on the street on account they sound or look like one of those people. Every vote, for these people, was another signal to go ahead, this is right, this is democracy. The majority favoured this. Shut up about your namby pamby "yoomun rights" and kick a pole to death, save your nation from the cockroach, read about how he was going to steal your job, your home, your benefits and your daughter in this blurb under some tits in the sun, as "heidi", 19, tells you how it is. The hate existed and has always existed, but was exploited and fanned by the brexit campaign, and then multiplied intensely by the result, as shown by the massive increase in incidents. As the negotiations drag, then turn sour, the hate will further be poured on and directed at "new" targets too as required to ensure the blame for social ills falls anywhere but at the feet of the negligent parties. Brexit is brexit. And brexit is a boot in a migrants face. DesperateDan fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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Surprising nobody: Surprising a few:  "There are only two demographic groups that are more likely to oppose a ban than support it: 18-24 year olds and Remain voters. Even then the numbers are relatively closely – Remain voters are net opposed to the ban by just 3%, whilst 18-24 year olds are 6% net opposed to the ban."
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Junior G-man posted:Whoever dreamed up 'burkini' as a dogwhistle wedge issue is loving genius. Evil genius, but still. Couldn't the makers of "burkinis" just re-brand them as female wetsuits to circumvent all laws against them? Or would the idiots in charge just double down and arrest every diver they see?
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Libluini posted:Couldn't the makers of "burkinis" just re-brand them as female wetsuits to circumvent all laws against them? Or would the idiots in charge just double down and arrest every diver they see? As long as brown women might wear them because they're all mental terrorists, some regressive mayor somewhere is going to make a problem of it.
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Brexit didn't make anyone racist, it just led to people doing more racist things, having more racist dialogue with other racists, and feeling validated for their racist beliefs and actions. OK.
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Zephro posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/31/londons-elite-pushed-out-of-exclusive-postcodes-by-super-rich The Evening Standard has been going on about this for weeks now, it's such a bizarre non-story. The Standard are pretty competent at being right wing attack dogs too which just makes it weirder they are focusing on such a bloo-bloo alienating issue. Honestly I just think it's funny that the rich are getting a tiny, tiny taste of their own medicine. And if cozy little establishment enclaves are getting broken up too then all the better, scummy as they are Saudi princes do me less harm than aristo SPADs do. Junior G-man posted:Whoever dreamed up 'burkini' as a dogwhistle wedge issue is loving genius. Evil genius, but still. Isn't that what the woman who invented them called them? Or do you mean the person who pushed it as a SOCIAL ISSUE(!)?
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DesperateDan posted:the level of discourse where they can have articles calling asylum seekers cockroaches The fact that they have been used for hate speech against foreigners throughout history says a lot about what it is people actually hate about the Other. e: Junior G-man posted:As long as brown women might wear them because they're all mental terrorists, some regressive mayor somewhere is going to make a problem of it. 
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Zephro posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/31/londons-elite-pushed-out-of-exclusive-postcodes-by-super-rich On the one hand, world's smallest violin. On the other hand, the powers that be care far more about this demographic than the remaining 98%, so maybe it's stories like this that will open their eyes to the ahahaha I can't finish this sentence. Hope is a mistake, Sadiq Khan abandoned his affordable housing stance, TIBFJC etc
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Guavanaut posted:the only reason they're seen as disgusting by most people is because they don't recognize our arbitrary borders and brazenly keep on living where we didn't even give them permission to. I appreciate the analogy, but I don't think this is true at all. Mice, which also do these things, are cute. When we want to imagine disgusting alien creatures, we make them insect-like. Cool pic though!
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Libluini posted:Couldn't the makers of "burkinis" just re-brand them as female wetsuits to circumvent all laws against them? Or would the idiots in charge just double down and arrest every diver they see? Wetsuits? Burkinis? The fools are ignoring the true danger of insidious foreign influences lapping at our shores this very moment! Do you know where those waves have been? Not to mention they're full of immigrants eager to get their fishy teeth and sinister pincers on the flesh of decent British citizens. I say ban the oceans and protect us all from the Crypto-Neptunic Fascism they hide beneath their waves!
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Vengeance of Pandas posted:Wetsuits? Burkinis? The fools are ignoring the true danger of insidious foreign influences lapping at our shores this very moment! Do you know where those waves have been? Not to mention they're full of immigrants eager to get their fishy teeth and sinister pincers on the flesh of decent British citizens. I say ban the oceans and protect us all from the Crypto-Neptunic Fascism they hide beneath their waves! Redundant, since BRITANNIA (which is stronk) RULES THE WAVES.
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Oh dear me posted:I appreciate the analogy, but I don't think this is true at all. Mice, which also do these things, are cute. When we want to imagine disgusting alien creatures, we make them insect-like. I think it's the whole 'crossing boundaries without even asking us' thing. I can think of a lot more dangerous insects that you could compare people to, mosquitoes, tsetse fly, giant hornet. Those only tend to get used in the sense of the parasite (capital if you're left wing, the International Jew if you're a Nazi) or the foreign aggressor. In other news, wealth continues to trickle down to the South, but areas in the North really aren't that bad. Scotland and the Midlands are hosed though. Leicester is especially terrible  http://www.itv.com/news/central/2016-08-31/leicester-worst-place-in-england-to-live-for-families/
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The Electoral Reform Society has published its depressing report into the Brexit referendum. It makes depressing reading but they make some good recommendations - such as an independent body to monitor misleading claims. The worst bit was this: quote:When asked about eight prominent politicians, most people said they had had no effect on the way they voted. The only people the public actually listened to were Boris, Farage and loving Donald Trump.
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Hey poster LeoMarr What if you're opposed to the Soviet Union, its leadership etc but still think Corbyn is pretty cool then what
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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Prince John posted:The only people the public actually listened to were Boris, Farage and loving Donald Trump. What that actually shows is that people who voted Leave are just more likely either to engage or at least be the ones to admit to engaging in personality politics.
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Angepain posted:I can't wait until London is just one big interconnected house owned by one guy who doesn't technically have to pay taxes What, The Queen?
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^^ She pays tax  WhiskeyWhiskers posted:What that actually shows is that people who voted Leave are just more likely either to engage or at least be the ones to admit to engaging in personality politics. That is a more charitable way of looking at it, although almost as depressing a conclusion.
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Tesseraction posted:Seriously I'm getting rather pissed that people claim the Brexit debate made the UK more racist compared to the reality that Britain has been so loving racist you wouldn't believe. You're only noticing it now. The referendum didn't make people more racist, but it does seem to have made fascists sit up & go "oooh, there's a lot more people out there than we realised, lets go kick some Paki heads in!" It's emboldened people who were already racist, rather than converted people into racists. Not that that's any better. Gonzo McFee posted:What, The Queen? Nah, she'll have to sell up to some obnoxious Russian oligarch before too long. The tiny cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face part of me really loves that idea of British people being priced out of Britain. Foreigners coming over here & taking out homes rather than our jobs. But because they are rich rather than lazy benefit scrounging, job stealing parasites nobody blinks an eyelid until it's too late, no one is left in London without a Middle Eastern, Eastern European or East Asian accent, none of whom actually pay tax here, driving us deep into the sea where we truly belong. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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