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Shoeless posted:The difference is that the majority of the projectiles the Battleship launches are mostly going to miss, and whereas dive-bombing is much more accurate. Also 120 dive-bombers (which are not likely as expensive as massive 4-engine bombers) will still almost certainly cost less than that single BB. Aircraft spell death to conventional naval combat. Clearly the solution is to turn battleship shells into tiny aircraft, with motors and wings and guidance systems, maybe guided by a trained pigeon or bat, so that they never miss.
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Shoeless posted:The difference is that the majority of the projectiles the Battleship launches are mostly going to miss, and whereas dive-bombing is much more accurate. Also 120 dive-bombers (which are not likely as expensive as massive 4-engine bombers) will still almost certainly cost less than that single BB. Aircraft spell death to conventional naval combat. traditionally 4 engine aircraft were not dive bombers. also this is absurd. Even the most advanced aircraft in the world have 1, maybe 2 engines. And what's a bomber? Aircraft might have some use in a reconnisance role, but they'll never be a weapons platform, especially not on the level of a battleship. Our DESTROYERS can deliver a greater payload than the entire airforces of Britan and Germany combined.
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Mar 24, 2017 13:58
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To SecNav, Whatever madness seems to have struck the German design staff seems to be contagious. They're vacillating between flights of fancy that would look out of place in the days before the modern battleship or even the Great White Fleet and projections of air power that based on my quick calculations that would require at least 500 pound bombs, possibly 1000 pound bombs, which I believe would require engines to reach the heady heights of nearly a thousand horsepower! I fear that it is too late to save me. Tell my wife I love her and that I love the concept of transverse catapults on carrier hangar decks.
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Mar 24, 2017 14:41
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These planes in the atmosphere are a passing fancy, nothing more. The future lies in battleships floating in the void above! Their guns able to reach anywhere on the globe, and with no pesky sea waiting to drag them under they will be unsinkable!
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Mar 24, 2017 15:04
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There are simply too many problems with using planes to deliver explosives, I believe the whole concept must be redesigned from the ground up. If the payload were delivered by a one-time use vehicle this would greatly increase the efficiency, a plane that does not have to return would be lighter and more reliable. And in this case, it could be improved by delivering the thrust not from the plane itself, but at the site of launch on the ship. In short, I suggest launching these single-use 'planes' from a reusable tube which generates thrust by the burning of volatile substances.
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Mar 24, 2017 16:51
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Velius posted:These planes in the atmosphere are a passing fancy, nothing more. The future lies in battleships floating in the void above! Their guns able to reach anywhere on the globe, and with no pesky sea waiting to drag them under they will be unsinkable! Perhaps a joint venture with the Japanese?
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Mar 24, 2017 16:59
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mossyfisk posted:There are simply too many problems with using planes to deliver explosives, I believe the whole concept must be redesigned from the ground up. If the payload were delivered by a one-time use vehicle this would greatly increase the efficiency, a plane that does not have to return would be lighter and more reliable. And in this case, it could be improved by delivering the thrust not from the plane itself, but at the site of launch on the ship. That is just absurd, can we not bring ourselves to remain in the realm of reason?
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Mar 24, 2017 18:54
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I'm sorry everyone, it was very late and my tiredness must have affected my judgement. Clearly airplanes could be a useful scouting tool, but thinking they could pose a danger to our mighty battleships was quite foolish of me. I hope we can return to more reasonable discourse about useful things like underwater trebuchets. Actually I think I know what caused my flight (ha ha) of fancy: I recently watched an American science fiction film about airplanes attacking ships in the near future. Now that I'm fully awake I remember it was complete rubbish, they even included a fictitious, captured(!), German battleship! Here is a copy just in case anyone else wants a good laugh at what the Americans think naval combat will be like 10 years from now: (  due to gratuitous shots of cage masts and turret stacking.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB-Jwys_KjE
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That smoke curtain is pretty sexy.
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