TNA October: Literally Everyone is Suing TNA

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oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

Sushi in Yiddish posted:

I was down in the HOOD and they said "hey WOOD" you should ease the transition of TNA into a legal receivership, brother"

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 02:10

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 06:55

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

Skinty McEdger posted:

Matt did a shoot with RF video recently, where the trailer revealed he said some not nice things about Bischoff and Hogan and how they hosed over TNA. Eric took particular offense to Matt saying he had "raped [and pillaged] TNA" and went straight to his lawyer. The trailer got taken down and Eric made some comments about his lawyer being involved on twitter which led to Reby ripping into him by quoting bits of "controversy creates cash" at him and calling him a hypocrite.

aint the first time feinstein found himself under pressure for rape allegations on tape, he'll pull through

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 04:59

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

aron rex

# ¿ Oct 3, 2016 05:18

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

MassRafTer posted:

It's really hard to get overseas TV deals without established stars. Having Angle and later Hogan opened doors for some of the international deals and good luck getting them without it.

Hell good luck getting any TV. Look at Jarrett, they went and taped pilots to try and get deals and failed.

at this point he'd be better off putting together highlight reels and selling the shows they taped on highspots

# ¿ Oct 3, 2016 22:43

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

# ¿ Oct 4, 2016 00:08

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

tna lost all of that leverage a while ago and merely asks their dates with tna take precedent over other indie shows and for a couple people in the company, like galloway, not even that is the case

# ¿ Oct 4, 2016 22:54

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

I would rather watch Impact Wrestling than Any Given Wednesday

# ¿ Oct 5, 2016 00:26

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

i dont care if its fake it was the best five minutes of my day

# ¿ Oct 5, 2016 00:44

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

https://twitter.com/JustinLaBar/status/783706620505260033

co-opted media is usually reliable

# ¿ Oct 5, 2016 17:43

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

Baron Corbyn posted:

They haven't filmed it yet, right? We could get a re-enactment of that nWo episode of Nitro where everyone smashes up the Impact zone and rebrands it Zwan Championship Wrestling.

They did two big blocks of tapings Monday and Tuesday night

# ¿ Oct 5, 2016 18:08

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

Vertical Lime posted:

act of god

https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING/status/783817560525565953

possible Lucha Underground invasion?

# ¿ Oct 6, 2016 00:58

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

super macho dude posted:

BARON DAX VS ARON REX IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW

e: it was a poo poo match because TNA

gently caress me i was lied to

# ¿ Oct 7, 2016 03:34

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

super macho dude posted:

ARON REX

# ¿ Oct 7, 2016 03:35

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

I liked Damien Sandow, for the record

# ¿ Oct 7, 2016 22:24

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

lmao

# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 19:54

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

Jack Anderson posted:

What the gently caress happened that required a loving restraining order? Was Dixie coming on to him or something?

while they're typically used to keep people away you can file restraining orders for all kinds of things you want someone to be legally unable to do

in this case it's probably that he doesn't want her to go through with whatever deal she came up with to sell the company

# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 20:25

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

can't believe the Harris Twins are having the last laugh

# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 20:35

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

the hits keep coming

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=105355

Mike Johnson posted:

I noted in my earlier stories about the Billy Corgan lawsuit against TNA that I reached out to TNA PR for a comment. As it turns out, I was told by Eric Barnes, who held the position of Sr. Director Consumer Engagement and Integrated Communications for the company, that he had departed TNA a month ago. I was told that my request for comment was forwarded onto TNA, however. PWInsider.com has yet to hear back from the company.

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Also interesting to note that TNA's former production company, Audience of One Productions, LLC in Virginia filed a lawsuit on 9/27 in the U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Virginia against TNA parent company Impact Ventures LLC, TNA minority owner Aroluxe LLC, TNA Chief Financial Officer Dean Broadhead and Ronald Dean Harris (aka Ron Harris of the Bruise Brothers).

This lawsuit is seeking seeks $223,000 plus interest and post-judgment costs for breach of contract, fraudulent inducement on the behalf of Harris and Broadhead, torturous interference on behalf of Aroluxe and for the defendants violating Virginia code.

The lawsuit states that TNA began conversations with AO1 Productions in 2015 about "a possible long-term, multi-event, production services agreement, pursuant to which AOl would provide a variety of production services for live TNA professional wrestling events, including audio/visual and broadcasting work, lighting, set construction and breakdown, as well as retention and payment of audience "wranglers" (personnel who would patrol the crowd and try to engage audience members with the event), among other things."

The lawsuit states that before and during the negotiations between the two companies, TNA production was overseen by Ron and Don Harris and "Upon information and belief, the Harris Brothers were not providing sufficiently high-quality production work to TNA, despite their industry experience. AOl understood that one of the reasons TNA initially sought a long-term business relationship with AOl was [Dean] Broadhead's dissatisfaction with production services work previously provided by the Harris Brothers."

The two sides began working together specifically on Universal Studios tapings, with the lawsuit alleging that "Broadhead and Ron Harris consistently represented to AOl that these two events were the first of many and that TNA and AOl were on the verge of a long and fruitful relationship." TNA came to AO1 and hired them to produce the 2015 Bound for Glory PPV, despite the fact that "TNA was apparently in dire financial straits at the time of these negotiations, with reports in the media suggesting that, among other financial woes, TNA was behind on paying some of its key "talent," i.e., wrestling personnel."

After the show, A01 billed TNA for $223,000 for services rendered in October. The following month, the lawsuit alleges that Broadhead, in an email to A01, stated that TNA was working on finalizing a new TNA deal that would put the company in 80 million homes and stated, "We are planning to go back into Universal Studios in 2016 and get back on the right track with our production. Please, please hang in there with us. We will come out of these difficult times in a much better position as a company and a partner." A01 alleges this email was sent to prevent them from moving to more aggressive collection attempts on the money owed.

The lawsuit alleges that A01 sent a second invoice, including a 1.5% late fee in November, which led to Ron Harris requesting an itemized invoice before A01 could be paid. The communications included discussions on a new set design, A01 alleges in their lawsuit that TNA was having discussions with other vendors at the same time.

In January 2016, A01 reduced the amount TNA owed them by $29,001.57, noting that that amount was removed as Dean Broadhead directly paid some of the independent contractors who had worked on Bound for Glory production, so A01 no longer needed to pay those contractors themselves. A01 alleges in the lawsuit that TNA made those payments directly to insure that those contractors would continue to work for TNA after TNA cut ties from A01.

The lawsuit also alleges that Broadhead opened into discussions with Jeff Wade, the owner of A01, regarding a payment plan to begin to reimburse A01 for money owed from the Bound for Glory event. Based on the agreement, the money would be paid in monthly installments starting in March 2016 through August 2016, and that TNA stated they were "on track" to begin to make payments. However, the lawsuit alleges, "Upon information and belief, TNA's financial troubles had become increasingly severe by this time. Yet, here again, Broadhead, who would have been intimately familiar with those financial troubles, failed to share any relevant information with AOl, which, for its part, continued to negotiate in good faith with TNA and Broadhead over repayment terms for the BFG Event."

The lawsuit claims that in March 2016, "Aroluxe provided some form of financing to TNA which, upon information and belief, was sufficient to allow TNA to continue operating for the foreseeable future. This financing was secured with a lien on all or nearly all of TNA's assets, including, but not limited to, all accounts receivable as well as all fixtures, inventory, and equipment."

The lawsuit then alleges that financing "gave Aroluxe and, by extension, the Harris Brothers, two of Aroluxe's principals, considerable incentive to oversee and coordinate TNA's financial affairs going forward." on 3/18/16, TNA was to wire the first payment but 12 hours later, Broadhead told A01 that the company could not wire the money. The money was later received via FedEx. The lawsuit alleges, "Upon information and belief, this failure to make a timely wire transfer to AOl
resulted from intervention by Aroluxe and/or Ron Harris who, at this point, had every incentive to disrupt and delay payments to AOl so that other creditors could be paid sooner."

From that point on, TNA did not respond to invoices regarding money owed to A01, according to the lawsuit.

The lawsuit claims that as of June 2016, "Aroluxe, through two of its principals, the Harris Brothers, was handling TNA's production efforts and administering its accounts payable, presumably because of the prior infusion of capital by Aroluxe, which was reportedly keeping TNA afloat."

The suit alleges that Broadhead and Harris were responsible for dragging out payment with false promises of future work as a way to get AO1 to agree to the repayment plan, which TNA did not maintain.

Court records do not note whether TNA or the other named defendants have responded to the lawsuit as of this writing.

# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 22:57

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

dixie carter most definitely worked billy on how bad their financials are and these two lawsuits are related, yeah?

# ¿ Oct 14, 2016 02:26

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

those posts about zwan being good were not incredibly sad astroturfing they were genuine, and sad

# ¿ Oct 14, 2016 05:48

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

rip

http://www.sescoops.com/exclusive-tna-unpaid-taxes-tennessee-strikes-back/

# ¿ Oct 14, 2016 19:35

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

https://twitter.com/TimWelcomed/status/787002041608450049

# ¿ Oct 14, 2016 19:53

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

sounds like a success to me

# ¿ Oct 14, 2016 23:36

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

[dave meltzer voice] well.... ok its not a work though

# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 04:19

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

this is the best tna retrospective ever produced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH1xm2fOXD4

# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 23:26

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

DoctorGonzo posted:

What they were thinking.

dixie is a giant mark who believed every lie hogan and bischoff fed her while they cleaned out the company's finances and got all their buddies a payday. To put it in more detail:

Spermgod posted:

It's really liberating to realise that TNA was never a company trying to be good that was just really bad at it. It was always just a vehicle for Dixie's ego, quality of the product and bottom line be damned. They never cared about the ability of all the old stars they brought in to actually move business; it was just so Dixie could say they had stars. All those years of "their roster is good, they could be a solid #2 if they'd just..."-type frustration just evaporated with the realisation that it was never going to be that because it was never meant to be that. TNA by all rights should have died in 2002, yet got a 14-year lease of life as an egomaniac's vanity project.

# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 23:37

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

Chris James 2 posted:

I can't find it right now but I feel like if the life and death of TNA had to be summed up in one video, it'd either be that or the 10 second clip of a bloody Jarrett looking on in shock at a smiling, unmasking Vince Russo while commentators scream "HOLY poo poo IT'S VINCE RUSSO?!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p5jTIN8R6Y&t=159s

# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 23:58

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

Jenny Angel posted:

Are Grand Championship matches done in a faux-MMA style like that one Angle/Joe match, or are people doing Irish whips and back body drops in 3-minute rounds

There were one or two like the former that were cool but overwhelmingly it's the latter

quote:

Are only title matches contested under these rules, or do people enter a Grand Championship division where all their matches are contested under these rules

the latter

# ¿ Oct 17, 2016 16:47

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

do the monty python intro but replace the giant foot with his hand

oatgan fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Oct 17, 2016

# ¿ Oct 17, 2016 21:10

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

grazie

# ¿ Oct 18, 2016 00:01

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

Burt Buckle posted:

Any realistic possibility that Dixie goes to jail for any of this?

none

# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 00:18

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

tna isn't even good at dodging creditors get a p.o. box you idiots

# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 04:04

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

i'm above board

# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 04:13

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

exploding mummy posted:

entities who TNA owes money to:

Bischoff
A01 Productions
Aroluxe
The Tennessee Department of Revenue
At least one court of Tennessee
Fight Network
American Express
The entire roster and then some

people who Dixie Carter owes money to:
Billy Corgan

am I missing any one

i've seen a handful of wrestlers mention that tna still owes them for a date and while i dont know how serious they are its very believable

# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 04:24

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

cant believe he paid bram out of his own pocket

# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 05:05

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

Luigi Thirty posted:

Paul Bearer

All-time great moment in early TNA

https://youtu.be/9jn-7iMn9Bc

Mike Tenay and Don West scream "what the hell" for 90 seconds and then the show ends

# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 16:58

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

Sigma posted:

Companies potentially facing bankruptcy are in tough positions. As soon as the idea comes out, all creditors start filing for owed debts and it spirals from there. It will be interesting to find out who is funding the latest set of taping? MCC, presumably?

would guess it's the Fite Network or whoever bought part of the tape library

# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 21:36

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

EugeneJ posted:

What kind of ratings does TNA get in Canada

They should just move to Canada

edit: holy poo poo wait - wasn't Canada where Dixie was sending tapes of Impact every week for free, or was that another country?

yeah it was a french canadian station that was translating the show for them. The contract ran out and for months they were still being sent tapes of Impact every single week despite no longer paying for it. It was doing pretty well in that market too

# ¿ Oct 20, 2016 01:31

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

sticklefifer posted:

Well the dumb part of Vader's complaints about how flippy style isn't wrestling is that he's discrediting all lucha by proxy. Unless his gripe is that acrobatics should stick to Mexico and a UK wrestler shouldn't be allowed to, but that's just cherry-picking.

2 things

1) lucha has a ton of variety going for it including technical showcase maestro matches and violent bloodbaths please don't pigeonhole it as the flippy style!

2) Vader doesn't hate flips he hated the opening exchange of the Ricochet/Ospreay match which made the rounds on twitter as a gif

# ¿ Oct 24, 2016 18:53

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 06:55

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

if you want me to present some lucha fans who hate choreographed dances i will

show yourself spermgod

# ¿ Oct 24, 2016 18:59

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