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Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

punk rebel ecks posted:

How does having such a high quality of life work when they tax you such a high amount?

Simple: the taxes go toward providing services that improve quality of life. Healthcare has already been mentioned, but there is also higher education without paying more than a nominal fee for tuition.

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Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Pilsner posted:

Both Denmark and Norway have ridiculous taxes on cars, while Sweden has virtually zero.

The first two have no automobile industry. It wouldn't surprise me if the Swedish auto manufacturers have lobbied their government to favour their own industry.

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Liquor in Sweden and Norway is outrageously expensive, we're talking up to 60-70 USD for a simple 1 liter bottle of Absolut Vodka, while in Denmark it's down to around 20 / liter for average big brand booze, and we can pop down to the German border and get it around 30% cheaper.

That is one peculiar cultural difference between Danmark and the rest of the Nordics. At least in matters relating to alcohol consumption and prostitution, their attitudes and laws seem closer to what they have in Germany and the Netherlands. All the other Nordics have some form of state-run liquor monopoly, and in Norway and Sweden purchasing prostitution services is actually illegal.

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

lizard_phunk posted:

[*] Most Norwegians are raised to not stand out. For example, if you are a gifted child, you will in most cases be asked to keep your skills down to the other kids' level. You will (in general) not be praised for being extraordinarily good at things.

Major exception: sports. For example, there are specialised upper secondary schools that let those with exceptional talent for sports train during the school day while following their regular classes. Until recently, however, there weren't really comparable schools for those with exceptional intellectual capabilites. This has changed a bit in recent years, with gifted students being allowed to complete secondary school courses ahead of time if they have the ability and then continue with higher level courses up to university level ahead of schedule. Obviously, this is something that should have been an option all the time, but the "do not stand out ahead of others" ideology prevented it.


Pursesnatcher posted:

This view – that all the best and brightest Norwegians are long dead – is one you share with a lot of Norwegians. We used to have the likes of Munch, Grieg, Ibsen, Henie, Sandemose, Holberg, Amundsen, Birkeland and Heyerdahl. Now we only have Breivik and Carlsen? How the mighty have fallen!

The first one of those was an immigrant from Denmark, and few people knew who the second one was until they put him on the 200 NOK banknote.

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Then there are the scientists and inventors, whose names we for some reason rarely learn until long after they're dead.

Fun fact: when Edvard and May-Britt Moser were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for 2014, the Norwegian mainstream press suddenly started reporting on their work. For example, the newspaper Aftenposten had something about them getting plenty of recognition from their peers and several awards for their research before the Nobel Prize, yet a search of the newspaper's database revealed that they had never been mentioned by the paper before the Nobel Prize announcement. And when the matemathician Pierre Deligne was awarded the Abel Prize, their article on the award simply gave biographical details but said nothing about his mathematical work or what discoveries earned him the prize.


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Ah, but dentistry is covered by the NHS. That's not the case in Norway. If you want a basic appointment, that's about £120. A crown or root canal, depending on the number of treatments required, can be as low as £800 – but is often several times that.

That seems a bit high. The last time I had a basic appointment it cost a bit less than 800 NOK, a bit less than £80. Still, the fact that dentistry is not covered by the national health care system if you are older than 20 is a serious flaw. Some people avoid going to the dentist for years at a time owing to it costing so much.

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Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

lizard_phunk posted:

[*] I work with a number of highly skilled foreigners who soon have PhD's and want to work in Norway permanently.
Most are tired of academia and are looking for other positions and the main thing holding them back every time is having no interest in Norwegian.

And they don't see the contradiction in this? How do they rationalise wanting to work in the country yet at the same time rejecting the language?

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Pursesnatcher posted:

This is probably tied to the whole "everyone speaks English" bit, coupled with the fact that the Norwegian academic world uses English as the working language (at least that's how it is in most areas of STEM research, God alone knows what they do in the social sciences), much like in the oil sector.

Still, it is remarkable that they fail to grasp that the corporate world works differently. I know that some of the bigger companies use English as a working langage, but the bulk of employers require people to know the language. Yet these nominally highly qualified people fail to grasp this simple fact.

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Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

lizard_phunk posted:

Also, I got tired of the reindeer blocking the entrance to the supermarket I worked at. They freak me out.

Why would they hang around the supermarket entrance unless there were tasty plants to eat? Was this at Kvaløysletta, by any chance?

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