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Sep 5, 2003
Kshama Sawant called for a nation wide general strike to take place on inauguration day. I hope more and more people come around to this idea because striking is one of the most effective tools we have. Until then, rallies and marches to keep people engaged and organized. We had a rally locally last night at city hall and a planning meeting at a community library this sunday to start charting a course for action over the next few months. Solidarity.

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Sep 5, 2003

blue squares posted:

I don't believe in a strike on inauguration day because a strike should be a powerful tool for demanding concessions, not just expressing anger. Protesting simply the idea of President Trump feels great but it doesn't accomplish anything specific. When people get ready to protest actions taken by the administration, they should be have specific demands and be prepared to keep going until they win.

Fair enough, you might disagree with the idea of a strike on inauguration day specifically, but the tactic is still one that needs to be embraced by the left.

N. Senada posted:

I ask with sincerity, what are the anticipated and/or desired results of these actions? I understand what's motivating them, but what are the leaders/organizers/participants expecting to have happen? Agitation that pushes the electoral college to vote differently?

We have to build organizational groups and coalitions that allow us to mobilize quickly within our communities to stop actions by the administration. Last night the rally held here was mainly just a way for people to sign up and get in touch with other like minded people so we can begin to plan and organize our opposition. We're a small town but we still had several hundred people show up with less than a days notice. If we keep that rolling we can put pressure on our local and state governments to try to curtail actions by the new administration.

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Sep 5, 2003
Please just ignore the posters who question the usefulness or who are dismissive of protesting. The thread is about protesting so let's focus on strategies and ways to organize and work in solidarity. One component I'm going to suggest that our community is pursuing is to demand that your local city declare itself a sanctuary city. It's a good first step I think, presents a clear demand that can be used to pressure local governance, and addresses the fears of retaliation against immigrants that trump has championed.

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Sep 5, 2003
yeah a big part of all this is making sure you establish a network and organize collectively. Be prepared to bring a clipboard, pens, and paper to get people's contact info at any event if you don't know if anybody else is collecting it. once you have a network established you can mobilize much quicker when something goes down and you need people to show up ASAP. facebook is also great for this obviously so friend everyone you can that you meet at events.

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Sep 5, 2003

central dogma posted:

Why not?

Also, I want to point out that if there was this kind of excitement before the election, we wouldn't have Trump today. Anecdote, I know, but some friends of mine did jack poo poo before the election as far as supporting sanders/Clinton. The media and polls told them a Trump election was impossible. Now they are protesting because Trump won. I guess what I'm saying is that a huge problem this election is that much of the base was REactive rather than PROactive, and I hope that the lesson was learned for 2020.

So, we're being PROactive now by organizing and galvanizing the left before he and the troglodytes that make up his administration start enacting their agenda. politics doesn't begin and end in the ballot box and being proactive for 2018 let alone 2020 means acting NOW, not later.

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Sep 5, 2003
I get really sick of hearing people poo poo on protesting. It works, I have seen it work in my community where it has gotten living wage ordinances passed locally, defeated local ordinances that would have criminalized homelessness, helped provide the political will to create homeless shelters and safe spaces, organized workers to unionize and strike. All of this has happened in my community because of organized and sustained protest movements. The reason people like to poo poo on protesting is because they don't want to be bothered to do it and want to feel self righteous about their inaction so they don't have to feel guilty for doing nothing.

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Sep 5, 2003

mobby_6kl posted:

Those were local issues with local decision making. I'm not sure what protesting a newly elected president in the abstract is going to achieve. He's not resigning. The moment he tried to pass something heinous, protesting in DC or around federal institutions would make more sense of course.

You know that in my local area and yours too, there is an office for your federal house rep. There are 2 US senators in your state as well. You organize around local issues and you can direct that energy against national issues when needed by organizing and demonstrating outside of these offices. State level, you can demonstrate outside the state capitol or state house reps or senators offices.

All you people complaining about how protesting will do nothing to stop trump: you realize that in 1968 the French government was forced to dissolve the parliament and hold new elections because of the protests and strikes that were occurring. The protesters literally shut down the french economy and forced DeGaulle to flee the country. When the elections were held later, Gaullists ended up with even more power than before but the nature of the Gaullist faction was changed profoundly and french society was completely upended. Protests work and yes, with enough power and presence they can topple governments. You might not think that's possible in this case but it's historically ignorant and intellectually lazy to dismiss the fact that they at least have the potential to do so.

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Sep 5, 2003
Locally we're organizing a march next saturday. We're also organizing a campaign to put pressure on local and state government officials to make a pledge to resist the trump agenda, and a campaign to get our city officials to designate the city a sanctuary city. Small group is preparing squads to go out into the rural areas to help educate and provide resources to agricultural farm workers who might be at risk for deportation or harassment from local police. Also trying to organize a unified student/faculty group at the community college I work at and the big state university in town.

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Sep 5, 2003
Hmm ok let's just wait until he does something horrible...and done. He has used disparaging language towards women, latin peoples, and immigrants. He has called for a religious ban on all people of the Muslim faith. He has promised to forcibly and violently remove millions of people from our country based on their immigration status. He has just yesterday appointed a white supremacist one of his senior aides. I think that's more than enough to get angry and organize over.

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Sep 5, 2003

Veyrall posted:

Once again, is anything happening in Mississippi, Louisiana or Alabama? I will drive wherever, just tell me.

The mobile branch of Socialist Alternative has been pretty active so far, just like every other SA branch https://www.facebook.com/MobileBaySocialistAlternative not sure where else you could look but they already held a rally on the 12th and I'm sure they'll be doing more in the future.

I'm a member of SA though there is no branch in my city right now. It made me really happy to see pretty much all of the protests that occurred in the first 24 hours after the election had a presence from SA.

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Sep 5, 2003

Veyrall posted:

Thank you

Just found this as well: https://www.facebook.com/Alabama-Rally-Against-Donald-Trump-213142452430088/

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Sep 5, 2003
Nah, I'm in Gainesville Florida but I know some awesome comrades down in South Florida who helped start up the Mobile branch before they moved after college. We tried to get a branch started in North Florida but the couple of interested people other than myself who were gonna get the ball rolling moved away after college. I kind of gave up on starting a new org in town just because we have so many activist groups already that I figured my time was better spent helping already existing groups like the local labor coalition than trying to start yet another activist group with 5 people. I'm still a member, still donate, and pay dues to SA and talk em up whenever I can though because I really like the organization and the people in it.

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