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Lord_Magmar posted:Here's the real kicker, the sci-fi mech game is the earliest in the timeline. Dragon Fable even has a location where you visit the husk of one of those robots. Hell, Warframe does it. (Which is a really good MMO... type thing, but not a formal request.)
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Das Panzer posted:Oh god no, is it as cringey as the original was? There's a Kim Kardashian joke and a "sempai noticed you" joke in the first two minutes of the game. The sempai joke is screenshotted like fifty times on the Steam community page,just so you get a feel for the target audience.
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Yapping Eevee posted:Hate to break it to you, but ancient civilizations that are way more advanced than the present setting is a time-honoured videogame trope, especially in JRPGs. Oh I know that it's a common trope, it's the execution that's really out there not the actual fact. As the mech in Dragon Fable shouldn't exist. The general idea is that the universe reset somewhere between Mechquest and Adventure Quest, and the fact that a mech survived is impossible but probably related to Warlic, a Wizard who is probably the most knowledgeable about all the time nonsense. Though having looked further Dragon Fable is actually a prequel to Adventure Quest, and then Mechquest is a prequel to that. The timeline might also be cyclical, in that it resets and slowly reaches MechQuest time period again before resetting. Das Panzer posted:I... I don't even, Adventurequest. Premise at least sounds neat, but how's the execution? I only ever played the original AQ Mechquest combat plays basically like Adventure Quest but with the ability to actually walk around, although my memories of AQ are hazy at best. Dragon Fable is even more open, where you exist in a game world and actually walk around fighting things from memory. There's also two sequels to Adventure Quest that take place in different timelines. A sci-fi one which plays basically the same, and another fantasy game that is fully mobile and has real time combat instead of turn-based like all the others. Any of these games are probably worth a look at, because Artix Entertainment at least are very hard-working as far as I can tell.
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Evil Mastermind posted:There's a Kim Kardashian joke and a "sempai noticed you" joke in the first two minutes of the game. The sempai joke is screenshotted like fifty times on the Steam community page,just so you get a feel for the target audience.  I feel physically ill, I just got over a sickness drat it.
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New video coming in a bit! It's the last of our original recording session, and Darcy is just about over their cold, so we're going to begin recording anew with your requests tomorrow!A good poster posted:Will a private server do?  Holy poo poo, yes! Thank you for bringing this to our attention!Schubalts posted:
Yes! Cathode Raymond posted:While I agree that playing through this horrendous roster of garbage games will almost certainly lead to death, that's no reason not to continue. Also yes!
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I would like to request Fiesta you mad persons. edit: started watching and the chemistry is great also these games are so good bad Herr Tog fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Nov 16, 2016 |
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I've been having a look at STO recently. The ship battles are pretty fun for an MMO, not War Thunder level fun but decent. The away missions are hilariously janky though. e: Requesting War Thunder. Play Soviet planes. NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Nov 16, 2016 |
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:I've been having a look at STO recently. The ship battles are pretty fun for an MMO, not War Thunder level fun but decent. The away missions are hilariously janky though. Yeah, if STO simply cut any and all ground content outright it'd be a vastly better game. There's precisely one good ground anything in the entire game and even that's only because it has cyborg dinosaurs.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:I've been having a look at STO recently. The ship battles are pretty fun for an MMO, not War Thunder level fun but decent. The away missions are hilariously janky though. The game was a lot better than we were expecting, and we'll likely go back to it a couple of times because we were having fun. But I'll agree that it wasn't a good idea to try and mix 3rd person cover shooter mechanics with Tab-targetting cooldown-rotation mechanics. We didn't show the tutorial, but I thought the ship fighting parts were pretty fun even though I'm terrible at them.
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STO is the only MMO where the grinding (space grinding, to be accurate) is actually fun. No joke; I loved doing the space battles again and again as an Escort/Tactical captain simply because I was so fragile but I did so much damage. Against tough AI cruisers or other players, things got really intense.
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Well, your videos are great, and thanks to the thread I'm downloading Toontown Rewritten in a fit of nostalgia. Thanks, I think? Also, are you subjecting yourself to Maple Story?
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jaclynhyde posted:Also, are you subjecting yourself to Maple Story? Well, they will now.
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Schubalts posted:Well, they will now. question =/= request Don't do that to them. There are enough videos of that loving game.
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Herr Tog posted:question =/= request Yeah, we'll do anything that's requested, but we won't go out of our way to play a game if people aren't interested in seeing it. If someone makes a request for MapleStory we'll certainly give it a try, otherwise I'm sure the rest of the internet has us covered, heh. That being said, we both thought Schubalts' reply was funny.
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I'm surprised no one has requested Mabinogi at this point. It's pretty much everything bad about F2P MMOs. Really unbalanced pay to win system, poorly optimized for a 10+ year old game, clickbaity mascot character, the list goes on.
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You should try Wonderland online, which has such bizarre elements as romance-game style unlock able CG of key NPCs and game balance so grindy that they actually put an in-game bot mechanic so the game can grind for you while you sleep. Also Otherland because that's my favorite sci-do novel series and I want to see what you think of its mangled corpse. I love the concept of this thread. Back in my college days me and a buddy would pretty much do this same thing, so watching this takes me back.
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F2P MMOs were really my first taste of MMOs, and without doing my internet research, I assumed they were all terrible and not a genre for me. It wasn't until a few years ago really that I discovered there are some good ones out there, most of which aren't F2P, but it was more of a 1-in-every-10 deal.
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Nameless Fool posted:I'm surprised no one has requested Mabinogi at this point. It's pretty much everything bad about F2P MMOs. Really unbalanced pay to win system, poorly optimized for a 10+ year old game, clickbaity mascot character, the list goes on. For all its flaws, I keep going back to it. It actually does live up to the 'Fantasy Life' portion of its name. Also, no tour of STO is complete without browsing the insane playerbase. The MMO HMO thread basically lives off of it, and you can check out a sampling of the crazy in the OP.
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AfroSquirrel posted:For all its flaws, I keep going back to it. It actually does live up to the 'Fantasy Life' portion of its name. I can't think of another MMO that made being a literal potato farmer a nice life goal.
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Just a quick reminder that since we're aiming to do everyone's requests, even if I don't personally reply to your post, rest assured that we've noted it down in our list! We've already recorded the first few requests and are going to regularly release videos of them every 2 to 5 days, so look forward to it!AfroSquirrel posted:Also, no tour of STO is complete without browsing the insane playerbase. The MMO HMO thread basically lives off of it, and you can check out a sampling of the crazy in the OP. I've been wanting to touch on the playerbase during our videos since we're spending a little extra time with it here and there, but I'm not sure how. If we think of any way to showcase what the fans have to offer, we definitely will do it. Digital Jello posted:F2P MMOs were really my first taste of MMOs, and without doing my internet research, I assumed they were all terrible and not a genre for me. It wasn't until a few years ago really that I discovered there are some good ones out there, most of which aren't F2P, but it was more of a 1-in-every-10 deal. I had a friend in high school that despite me trying to tell her otherwise, she was convinced that the only MMOs around were Aeria Games stuff and that they were all fantastic. She knew WoW existed, but dubbed it as some ridiculous rich person's game, instead telling me how I should ditch it for some fine Aeria Games offerings.
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Cartoon Violence posted:The game was a lot better than we were expecting, and we'll likely go back to it a couple of times because we were having fun. But I'll agree that it wasn't a good idea to try and mix 3rd person cover shooter mechanics with Tab-targetting cooldown-rotation mechanics. We didn't show the tutorial, but I thought the ship fighting parts were pretty fun even though I'm terrible at them. IIRC STO was originally had a full retail release and then went FTP when it was sold off to one of the huge Chinese MMO companies which explains the higher than average level of production quality. I don't think there is actually a cover mechanic in the game, crouching just gives you a defense bonus against range.
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 Our very first request, and what a game it was. We disagree about the game's title in this one.
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Beautiful. Oh, is America's Army still around? I request that next. That free FPS-slash-recruitment tool.
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CirclMastr posted:Oh, is America's Army still around? I request that next. That free FPS-slash-recruitment tool. It is. https://www.americasarmy.com/
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CirclMastr posted:Beautiful. drat, I remember that game being hot poo poo with kids when I was in elementary school. Strange to see it still around.
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I'm surprised no one in here remembers FlyFF of all things, it's probably for the best though since that game was as korean-hellgrind as one could get outside of old maplestory. If you do want a genuinely good free to play game though, what about Warframe? You can find it on steam nowdays. Would MOBAs count as well for requests or would that be outside of what you would want to try? Krakatoah fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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Cartoon Violence posted:
You seem to both be wrong about the title. The actual title is Before Ghost After Complex First Encounter Shell Dirge the MMOnline Grenade Radius. I think the Ghost in the Shell license would be put to better use making a Deus Ex clone than a Call of Duty clone. Or maybe even a game with some novel features, but if I were looking for that, I wouldn't be looking for it in an MMO thread, that's for drat sure. Hey when are we gonna do that Esperanto one? Cathode Raymond fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Krakatoah posted:I'm surprised no one in here remembers FlyFF of all things, it's probably for the best though since that game was as korean-hellgrind as one could get outside of old maplestory. oh my god did I play this? Please tell me I was smart enough to avoid Flyff Also the True title is Shin Ghost in the Shell New Stand Alones REVENGENCE Modern Complexes Warfare
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Has Ragnarok Online gone F2P yet? That poo poo was so popular with my friends in the early 2000's for high school. All those private servers too where the hosts and admin would play god of their own little community because you felt like leveling up 10 times faster than normal and didn't want to grind for loot. Good times. I'd love to see RO as an episode to see how its aged. Edit, actual feedback on LP content post first 2 episodes: I understand that you have stated in the OP that you want "Commentary [to be] casual and 'podcast-y'" but I feel like I have to say most good podcasts on subjects are actually fairly structured. I don't know if I am expecting something different to what you aim to deliver; but after the two episodes on Aura Kingdom I don't know anything about the game after 45mins beyond it's called Aura Kingdom, is an Asian MMO and looks like "white wash" anime world. There was no mention of details like the dev/publisher or when the game was released that I've come to expect in most LP's. The combat system was noted to be weird but you didn't touch upon anything about the actual mechanics of the game or explain anything about character creation, classes, abilities, leveling up or anything that the game is really about. Coming away I feel like I watched 45min of two people have a weird chat full of in-jokes that I don't get with the conversation occasional pulling back to "Oh hey we are playing this game. I just did a double jump!" As such I would suggest that a more structured stance to the commentary would help in making this LP a LP; and not two people talking over footage of bad MMOs. Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Warframe is something we might do. The only reason I'm not sure is it's good enough that Darcy may want to play it just for fun without recording it. As for MOBAs, we're avoiding them as they provide no real way to mess around and interact with each other. They also require a lot more concentration than anything else. Reimou posted:Can't wait for the thrashing Tibia deserves. I'm not sure whether you all are going to love or be disappointed by the Tibia video, it certainly turned out as....something! Cathode Raymond posted:You seem to both be wrong about the title. The actual title is Before Ghost After Complex First Encounter Shell Dirge the MMOnline Grenade Radius. Woah, you're right, it turns out we were arguing for nothing! Joking aside, you're completely right! We were expecting something other than COD, we were at least expecting a TF2 / Overwatch like game, it was so disappointing! Even without having seen anything Ghost in the Shell related, I know it's an interesting enough property that so many things could've been done with it! We're doing all the requests in the order they were requested, so you can expect to see (Roughly in this order): Scarlet Blade, Tibia, Champions Online, Shaiya, Dungeon Fighter Online, Phantasy Star Online 2, Pirate 101, Toontown, War Rock, Combat Arms, Vindictus, Urban Rivals, /then/ the Esperanto One. Keep in mind we've already recorded a good chunk of these, it's just a matter of releasing the videos every couple of days.  Gridlocked posted:I understand that you have stated in the OP that you want "Commentary [to be] casual and 'podcast-y'" but I feel like I have to say most good podcasts on subjects are actually fairly structured. I don't know if I am expecting something different to what you aim to deliver; but after the two episodes on Aura Kingdom I don't know anything about the game after 45mins beyond it's called Aura Kingdom, is an Asian MMO and looks like "white wash" anime world. This is genuinely some good feedback. We both do want to do our best to please everyone, but it may be that what we're doing is quite what you're looking for. We try to avoid any in-jokes that we feel others wouldn't get, so I'll be sure to improve on that. In fact, I'll do my best to take into account everything you said in future recordings. I guess if we were to compare what we were aiming for with something from the forums, it'd be the "20 Years of Sonic / 30 Years of Mario" guys or the two doing the entire Final Fantasy library. I have no idea if we succeed at being like those groups, but that's what we were aiming for. I've been avoiding recording character creation and the tutorial because I tend to actually concentrate on the game during those and felt it wouldn't make good watching material if it was us tweaking characters and learning controls for half an hour. But you're right, we really should talk more about the mechanics themselves, and I think we'll improve on that in coming recordings. There's still several videos that have already been recorded that will be coming out, but I do want to do everything I can to improve our work. Thank you for being honest, and that applies to everyone in the thread who's given feedback so far.
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Herr Tog posted:I just want to say that the video presently are fine by me and learning more about these terrible things is not a priority for me. See, if more people are enjoying the videos the way they are and /don't/ want them changed, then that's fine too! We'll do our best to make videos that everyone can enjoy, so just keep letting us know what y'all like.  Oh no! It certainly is on our list! I just only typed the list up to the Esperanto one, your requests simply come after that one, not to worry! And now here comes something new: We return to Star Trek Online to have Dyl B's trial. Cartoon Violence fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Cartoon Violence posted:Warframe is something we might do. The only reason I'm not sure is it's good enough that Darcy may want to play it just for fun without recording it.  It's a fun game, but it has some quirks that might not make it entirely suitable for this series. It has some... barriers to entry on cool stuff. Joining the goon clan is highly recommended if you end up trying it anyway, as they'll help you out a lot. Oh, and Warframe's fashion game is strong. Cartoon Violence posted:But you're right, we really should talk more about the mechanics themselves, and I think we'll improve on that in coming recordings. Another would be to bring in someone knowledgeable about each game, but that would tamper with the dynamic you two have going on, so probably not.
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Yapping Eevee posted:The current chit-chatty stuff is nice, and I think it works fine for you. But hey, if people want to know about mechanics, there's always the chance to type up stuff in your update posts! Just any general explanations or reactions you didn't get time to express on video, that sort of thing. That might be one way to do it. I second both of these options. I like the banter, reminds me of a Game Grumps kind of feel so I don't mind it, but I also want to know more about the games and what actually makes them broken or whatever. I think it'd be cool to do that in posts, either by you folks or bring in someone who can speak to the faults of each game and have them make an info-dump post about some of the 'worst of' for that game. (If you ever do Otherland I'd love to whine all about it either in post or vocal format)
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