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Votes are in and pretty standard, but before I get called out yes I voted for Matt Stairs and Arthur Rhodes since I need a pretty good reason to not vote for someone once they spend 19+ years in the SHOW. Also let's talk Alan Trammel. Tied 62nd for all time WAR with Ron Santo, Frankie Frisch, and Carlos Beltran. More than Manny Ramirez and Ivan Rodriguez, and Gary Sheffield. 2365 career hits, 4 GG, 3 SS, 6 ASG, 1984 WS MVP (23PA, 16 Total Bases) 7 times received MVP votes including finishing second in MVP 1987 with an 8.2 WAR (winner was George Bell that year with 5.0 WAR) You know what needs to be done here...
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IcePhoenix posted:Hopefully voting picks up in the last few days because we're not even on pace to break the first year's total right now It's probably because we felt like we fixed everything that was wrong in the world when we elected Barry on the first ballot.
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The real ballot is starting to look pretty good (outside of a couple bad omissions), though I don't think that Barry/Clemens will get in this year. Next year maybe. But there's still time to cast our own ballot! Which you should!
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Dec 26, 2016 17:17
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I voted for Pat Burrell, like any good person should.
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mentholmoose posted:I voted for Pat Burrell, like any good person should. If there were an option to vote for OOTP Pat Burrell I would have voted for him. After voting for Mark Teahan of course.
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IcePhoenix posted:The real ballot is starting to look pretty good (outside of a couple bad omissions), though I don't think that Barry/Clemens will get in this year. Next year maybe. But there's still time to cast our own ballot! Which you should! Still not there, but I am absolutely giddy as Hell about Edgar's numbers.
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Tony Phillips posted:Still not there, but I am absolutely giddy as Hell about Edgar's numbers. Same, I think he's got a really good shot of getting in in his last two years 
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IcePhoenix posted:The real ballot is starting to look pretty good (outside of a couple bad omissions), though I don't think that Barry/Clemens will get in this year. Next year maybe. But there's still time to cast our own ballot! Which you should! Raines has 9 of the 20 "flip" votes he needs from last year to get in. Hopefully he won't fall off as the straggler ballots come in.  , literally.
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IcePhoenix posted:The real ballot is starting to look pretty good (outside of a couple bad omissions), though I don't think that Barry/Clemens will get in this year. Next year maybe. But there's still time to cast our own ballot! Which you should! C'mon Moose!
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Dec 27, 2016 15:40
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Why are Bonds and Clemens getting a huge bump now? The big purge of old writers who hadn't covered MLB in ages was prior to last year's ballot, and both of them gained a few percentage points. But now they are up by 20%?
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The Pussy Boss posted:Why are Bonds and Clemens getting a huge bump now? The big purge of old writers who hadn't covered MLB in ages was prior to last year's ballot, and both of them gained a few percentage points. But now they are up by 20%? I think a couple voters have come out saying that if Selig is getting inducted into the hall for presiding over Baseball's popularity boom, which was largely fueled by steroids, then there's no reason to hold it against the players any more.
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Dec 27, 2016 22:06
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Yeah it's largely about Selig, which is honestly just perfect
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People making their ballots public are also a lot less likely to care about the steroid thing and tend to have better ballots generally. But I do think Bonds and Clemens are both pretty much locks to get in eventually, even if it takes some sort of special "steroid era" veterans committee to clean up the mess the BBWAA is making of the 90s and 00s players
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Even if you hate him for using steroids, Barry Bonds could see a pitch better than anybody ever has or ever will, and he deserves to be in the Hall for that alone.
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Yaya posted:Even if you hate him for using steroids, Barry Bonds could see a pitch better than anybody ever has or ever will, and he deserves to be in the Hall for that alone. Eh, insert Ted Williams argument here. Even if you accept that Bonds is probably #2 at that, which just means he should still be in the hall of fame from the second he retired.
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Grittybeard posted:Eh, insert Ted Williams argument here. Ted Williams, the greatest fighter pilot, fisherman, and tennis player to ever play Major League Baseball.
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Dec 28, 2016 13:43
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Today is the last day to vote! Do the thing! Get other people to do the thing!
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Dec 30, 2016 14:49
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All you last-minute voters: Vote Trammel and Edmonds, please.
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Pancakes posted:All you last-minute voters: Vote Trammel and Edmonds, please. Also Wagner
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Jesus, this is a bloodbath
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 RESULTS! Vladimir Guerrero 98.50% Manny Ramirez 92.50% Ivan Rodriguez 88.10% Gary Sheffield 82.10% ------------------------------------------------- Jim Edmonds 64.20% Alan Trammell 64.20%  Trevor Hoffman 58.20% Curt Schilling 55.20% Billy Wagner 47.80% Jorge Posada 40.30% Tim Wakefield 19.40% Pat Burrell 13.40% Matt Stairs 13.40% Edgar Rentaria 10.40% Mike Cameron 7.50% Magglio Ordonez 7.50% Freddy Sanchez 6% Jason Varitek 6% Orlando Cabrera 4.50% Javier Vazquez 4.50% Derrek Lee 3% J.D. Drew 1.50% Carlos Guillen 1.50% Julio Lugo 1.50% Arthur Rhodes 1.50% Aaron Rowand 1.50% Danys Baez 0.00% Casey Blake 0.00% Melvin Mora 0% Special Votes Pete Rose 47.8% Shoeless Joe 70.1% Here are the votes! Congrats to the Class of 2017! Also, it was Future Wax IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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Apparently there were so many deaths that I ran out of tombstones
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How embarrassing.
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Jan 1, 2017 20:33
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No Trammell. We've failed. We're officially as bad as the writers.
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Schilling dead, year worth it
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Chris James 2 posted:Schilling dead, year worth it This guy didn't vote for Trammell. Get the rope.
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alpha_destroy posted:No Trammell. We've failed. We're officially as bad as the writers. I tried. You assholes have one more year to get it right with Edmonds next year. We were so close!
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No trammell means no edmonds.
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TheFlyingLlama posted:No trammell means no edmonds. Don't punish others for your failures
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In hindsight I'm sad I didn't give Casey Blake a token vote
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IcePhoenix posted:Don't punish others for your failures I mean, punishing others for our failures is the real meaning of having a hall of fame vote, isn't it?
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I voted yes on Trammel and no on Edmonds
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:I voted yes on Trammel and no on Edmonds Trammel is better than Edmonds, absolutely. Edmonds is a good but honestly not super-strong candidate for whom I have an NLCS home run-shaped soft spot. Trammel is an all-time great. I'm curious to see where Rolen ends up next year. I have less of a soft spot for him but I think it's fair to say he's a stronger overall candidate. Interestingly, he's also (potentially) hurt by a comparable but superior player entering eligibility at the same time (Edmonds and Griffey, Rolen and Jones). Pancakes fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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IcePhoenix posted:
What're the results on Rose & Jackson?
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JeterianGiftBasket posted:What're the results on Rose & Jackson? I thought I had added them to the results but no on both, which you can also see on the voting breakdown tab. Fixed it. IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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Man, there are some big misses in that list. alpha_destroy posted:No Trammell. We've failed. We're officially as bad as the writers. We were the monsters all along.
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3DHouseofBeef posted:Man, there are some big misses in that Not gonna lie, Wagner was the one that made me saddest.
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