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mango sentinel posted:Kingdom Death owns Dude has some crazy pubes.
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Dec 10, 2016 13:01
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Male power fantasy pubes.
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Dec 11, 2016 21:48
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Valatar posted:Male power fantasy pubes. That's all female gaze. The artist is hamletmachine, a lady who does a yaoi space opera porn comic called Starfighter.
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Dec 12, 2016 08:02
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Don't worry, the giant nutsack with boobs and a tentacle-dick that comes with three suffering pregnant women, helpfully depicted here as immediately pre-or-post penetration, is optional.
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Dec 18, 2016 05:35
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quote:3 x accompanying suffering pregnant women that complete the tableau
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Dec 18, 2016 09:18
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neongrey posted:Don't worry, the giant nutsack with boobs and a tentacle-dick that comes with three suffering pregnant women, helpfully depicted here as immediately pre-or-post penetration, is optional. Well it's not even really 'optional' - it has no game rules. You can buy it to put on your shelf with your titty models if that is the kind of thing you are into, but that's it. Fortunately, the frog woman with human heads with vaginas for mouths birthing puppies on the sides of her neck just got announced as a new expansion complete with game rules. Or you can get the 'pinup' version of the ballsack boob tentacle rape model, which is just a generic sexy human nurse. She comes with game content that makes your female characters better at getting pregnant by making them lactate.
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Dec 18, 2016 10:48
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And this game is currently (with 20 days left of its campaign) the 8th most funded Kickstarter ever (not just within boardgames, but site-wide), with 1,500 backers pledging $7.9 million dollars to it so far. Only $820,000 before it unseats Exploding Kittens as the most funded boardgame ever 
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Dec 18, 2016 11:00
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People really like stuff with scrotums and vaginas on it.
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Dec 18, 2016 11:10
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Kingdom Death makes me ashamed of being a tabletop gamer. I mean I already was but quote:3 x accompanying suffering pregnant women that complete the tableau
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Dec 18, 2016 11:10
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The Shut Up & Sit Down guys reviewed. It's basically so crazy, it kind of averages out? https://www.shutupandsitdown.com/review-kingdom-death-monster/ Cinnamon Bear posted:Kingdom Death makes me ashamed of being a tabletop gamer. I just saw you post about Malifaux in the KS game thread. The game with the serial killer that targets women then makes undead gently caress puppets out of their corpses - complete with cabaret outfits. I guess that game IS cheaper though so it's probably ok. Everyone can get their necrophiliac rapist 
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Dec 18, 2016 11:46
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Det_no posted:The Shut Up & Sit Down guys reviewed. It's basically so crazy, it kind of averages out? Yep there is a character in the game that is Jack the Ripper and is highly problematic and I have been outspoken about my distaste for it. A zombie in a caberet dress is not the same as quote:3 x accompanying suffering pregnant women that complete the tableau
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Dec 18, 2016 11:53
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Latest video is up (and is the last one for a while until the next batch are recorded). Spolier - it is the first nemesis encounter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg-08YlhnSQ
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Dec 18, 2016 18:14
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Det_no posted:I just saw you post about Malifaux in the KS game thread. The game with the serial killer that targets women then makes undead gently caress puppets out of their corpses - complete with cabaret outfits. I put jack the necromatic ripper as slightly less shameful than anime babes in a field of dicks getting molested to death by giant plants.
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Dec 18, 2016 18:59
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Det_no posted:I just saw you post about Malifaux in the KS game thread. The game with the serial killer that targets women then makes undead gently caress puppets out of their corpses - complete with cabaret outfits. Or you can say both are poo poo. That might be the reasonable response instead of trying to act like Kingdom Death isn't a huge pile of hosed up. KD is an incredibly expensive line of games that has both overly complex rules and incredibly creepy fetish figures. If you're going to like something with creepy stuff, own it. You're going to get poo poo for anyway, so pretending you aren't into it for the wank fodder is not incredibly effective.
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Dec 18, 2016 21:35
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Seamus is gross but it's ludicrous to claim that malifaux and kingdom death are remotely comparable in that regard
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Dec 18, 2016 22:06
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Man this game depresses me on multiple levels. I like the idea of "survivors eking out a terrifying existence in a world where you might just get eaten alive by a monster made out of hands" and having gameplay revolving around hunting down a big awful beast, murdering it, and carving weapons out of its bones and skin. That's metal as gently caress and is also something I'd like out of a Monster Hunter game. (Someone should make that btw just saying) Even the fanservice-y bits with sword-ladies with their tits hanging out is acceptable to a point, but the deeper I look into this the more embarrassing and creepy it is and the less I want to do with it. Man there's a lot of big-tittied ladies in distress or being menaced by tentacled monsters. The preoccupation with blood, tits, pregnancy, and slavery is a trainwreck of gross poo poo I would never be able to invite friends over to the table to play. I guess I can just take some comfort in the fact that the game has lovely mechanics so I don't have to be sad I'm missing out on something fun. Seriously someone make a good Monster Hunter game though.
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Dec 18, 2016 23:24
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Yeah I think I'd be super down if this were more in the spirit with Monster Hunter and the tone was Scrappy instead of Bleak but yeah, there's so much gross stuff in there with the things I like. It's not even like you can excise those elements from the game since it's so pervasive. Are the other games beside this and Sentinels that use a card deck for enemy behavior?
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Dec 19, 2016 01:27
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rkajdi posted:Or you can say both are poo poo. That might be the reasonable response instead of trying to act like Kingdom Death isn't a huge pile of hosed up. The rules aren't really overly complex. There are a lot of components but nearly everything in kdm boils down to 'roll a d10, add your modifier, and try to beat a target number. The stuff that doesn't follow that mold is roll percentiles and get hosed by the random event, match colored squares together, write down rules off of this card, or roll 2d10 and pick what you want. Kdm doesn't have even a fraction of the complexity of even a pretty simple rpg like pathfinder. It just has a lot of charts.
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Dec 19, 2016 01:51
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"A pretty simple rpg like pathfinder:
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Dec 19, 2016 01:52
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Caros posted:The rules aren't really overly complex.
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Dec 19, 2016 02:03
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HazCat posted:Fortunately, the frog woman with human heads with vaginas for mouths birthing puppies on the sides of her neck just got announced as a new expansion complete with game rules. Only one pair of tits on that frog. What a garbage model.
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Dec 19, 2016 02:15
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mango sentinel posted:Most actions eventually boil down to roll a d10, but you're looking at like 30 different game phases, a bunch of different decks of cards, and having to constantly cross reference stuff in the book. Yes many decks of cards, which at any point in the game only 4 or 5 are in use, and most cases only a few cards are used from those decks, save for AI and HL decks. On the board it is easy to manage even solo. Very little needs cross referencing since most things are explained on the cards. And if not the glossary is all you need. Only the hunt phase requires the most page flipping.
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Dec 19, 2016 02:37
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mango sentinel posted:Most actions eventually boil down to roll a d10, but you're looking at like 30 different game phases, a bunch of different decks of cards, and having to constantly cross reference stuff in the book. There are three 'phases'. One of them is distribution of resources and roll maybe five or six dice. One is the hunt where you roll a couple of d10's and combat which is 'attack monster, follow results on relevant cards'. Again, the game is a loving mess of bad mechanics, but if you're going to give it poo poo I just suggest giving it poo poo for the things the game gets wrong. KDM isn't complex, it just has lousy core mechanics and swingy as poo poo game design. Scyther posted:"A pretty simple rpg like pathfinder: Yeah, realized it when I said it. That said as far as RPG's go, pathfinder isn't especially terrible. I'd honestly say its probably at the same complexity as something like 13th age. The point was 'lots of stuff, simple mechanics'.
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Dec 19, 2016 03:37
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Caros posted:The rules aren't really overly complex. Piles of charts is the definition of complex. Even most Ameritrash board games I've played don't have any charts past a single combat matrix. KD is definitely on the high end. Also, comparing it to known overly complex RPGs like Pathfinder instead of anything with sane design is a bit of a bad idea. KD is trying to straddle the line between board games, minis games, and RPGs. I don't think it's doing a good job of it even before the wank fodder starts being added into the equation.
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Dec 19, 2016 03:46
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rkajdi posted:Piles of charts is the definition of complex. Even most Ameritrash board games I've played don't have any charts past a single combat matrix. KD is definitely on the high end. Also, comparing it to known overly complex RPGs like Pathfinder instead of anything with sane design is a bit of a bad idea. KD is trying to straddle the line between board games, minis games, and RPGs. I don't think it's doing a good job of it even before the wank fodder starts being added into the equation. Well, maybe tedious over complex.
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Dec 19, 2016 03:55
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rkajdi posted:Piles of charts is the definition of complex. Even most Ameritrash board games I've played don't have any charts past a single combat matrix. KD is definitely on the high end. Also, comparing it to known overly complex RPGs like Pathfinder instead of anything with sane design is a bit of a bad idea. KD is trying to straddle the line between board games, minis games, and RPGs. I don't think it's doing a good job of it even before the wank fodder starts being added into the equation. Different definitions I guess. Descent has a forty something page rulebook for different adventures each with their own fiddly adventure specific maps, an sizable number of different decks and so forth and a dice mechanic that is significantly more complex (though still very simple) than 'roll a d10, add number, compare'. None of the charts are in any way complex. This isn't 'roll 2d10+17 for anal circumference' it is 'You have stumbled across the crystal caverns, roll to see if you fall and break your neck, or find fancy crystals'. It is basically impossible to do a game like KDM that includes a the sort of roguelike narrative gameplay they're going for without including something akin to that. LordAba posted:Well, maybe tedious over complex. This is more accurate. The hunt is tedious as balls, but it isn't complex to open a book to the number 57 and read what it says after rolling percentiles.
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Dec 19, 2016 04:20
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One thing I really don't understand is for all its shock value its still incredibly puerile. Like if you're going to have a tentacle rape monster you should embrace it enough to not have to write "you hit the lion in it's ding-dong". You can sculpt all the puppy barfing vagina faces you want but saying penis is a line in the sand you won't cross.
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Dec 19, 2016 05:40
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mango sentinel posted:Yeah I think I'd be super down if this were more in the spirit with Monster Hunter and the tone was Scrappy instead of Bleak but yeah, there's so much gross stuff in there with the things I like. It's not even like you can excise those elements from the game since it's so pervasive. I don't even really mind bleak as a tone. Bleak is a great tone. Bleak makes it that much sweeter when you actually win. I'm totally down with the game's setting as far as the whole "you basically have little more than a loincloth and a sharp stick" so I can jam that sharp stick right in one of the hundreds of eyes of some horrible abomination. It's so close to being something I'd be super down with and that's what hurts the most.
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Dec 19, 2016 07:24
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Glagha posted:I don't even really mind bleak as a tone. Bleak is a great tone. Bleak makes it that much sweeter when you actually win. I'm totally down with the game's setting as far as the whole "you basically have little more than a loincloth and a sharp stick" so I can jam that sharp stick right in one of the hundreds of eyes of some horrible abomination. It's so close to being something I'd be super down with and that's what hurts the most. This. When I see pure crap, I just shrug my shoulders and walk on. But KDM has all those hints of shining jewels in the crapheap, so you want to look closer, but then you realize that you have your nose in a crapheap, and pull back. And then something comes up half a year later, which makes you turn back to look for those jewels, and your nose is back in the crapheap. It's a very curious circle.
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Dec 19, 2016 09:04
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I don't care one whit about a game having giant vagina monsters with dicknipples, so long as the sole purpose of them is to be hit with sticks until they die. I can get behind 'hey guys, you're doing a great job founding your dirt farm village, and by the by, a giant vagina monster just crawled up with the horrifying examples of what it did to the dirt farm village down the road being dragged along, you might want to do something about that'. Ditto for games where you punch some necrophiliac serial killer. Where I draw a line is when a game is set up so that the players are supposed to be playing/helping/empathizing with the writer's magical realm fetish. That's what sets poo poo like Black Tokyo and FATAL apart; not the existence of a hosed up concept, but the fact that they were designed to make the player be an active participant in the hosed up fetish, in a way beyond the "oh god kill it with fire" that Kingdom Death seems to be going for. The tacky edgelord content isn't what's keeping me from the game, it's the high price and mediocre-looking mechanics.
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Dec 19, 2016 09:29
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You can kill a monster to make a magical breast pump that increases your character's fertility in this game. But on top of that is mediocre mechanics. There are kernels of good ideas, but I'm not wading through poo poo to find it.
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Dec 19, 2016 09:52
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rkajdi posted:Or you can say both are poo poo. That might be the reasonable response instead of trying to act like Kingdom Death isn't a huge pile of hosed up. That's my point. The things people worry are in KDM are not actually in KDM. People have already mentioned it in here: The game is not that complicated to play, there is no rape, there is no fetish poo poo. Its worst crime is boobs and lovely dice rolls that can occasionally kill you. Is something like the wet nurse hosed up? Yes. Is it in the game? No. Is it really a tentacle rape monster? No, it was designed to have reproductive motifs while ruling out rape but of course no one gives a gently caress about that. Is it bad enough that you can opt not to support the company that makes it? Yes. But coming to a thread of a game you don't like to post about it a bunch is dumb, especially if you never actually played/seen the contents of the game and enjoy other games full of questionable poo poo. Let's face it: Out of aaaall the posters in here only like 3 have played the game and the rest are just running on whatever they heard the game had. If people are interested I suggest they give the Tabletop Simulator KDM mod a try; it has the creator's blessing (as long as you don't upload the full rulebook) and then we can discuss the actual game and why it might or might not be poo poo.
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Dec 19, 2016 11:11
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Det_no posted:Is it really a tentacle rape monster? No  
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Dec 19, 2016 12:56
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yeah that's clearly a prehensile cock, not a tentacle
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Dec 19, 2016 13:36
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Or double-sided Dildo.
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Dec 19, 2016 14:29
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Cinnamon Bear posted:You can kill a monster to make a magical breast pump that increases your character's fertility in this game. Det_no posted:That's my point. The things people worry are in KDM are not actually in KDM. These two things are mutually exclusive. Also that's a lameass defense of that loving game. All those things people are worried are in the game actually aren't? You mean all the things the game advertises with and are in the additional minis they sell for this universe they've built? I mean gently caress even the "punch the lion in the ding dong" card is totally in there, and various other creep-rear end art from the rulebook that I don't feel like looking up right now. How much more do you need?
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Dec 19, 2016 14:48
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Oh hey and look at this thing that I 100% saw come out of the game. Yes it still counts of its in an expansion. Look at that monster with the huge dick tentacle coming off the front.
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Dec 19, 2016 15:03
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god drat those designers love them some extraneous hands
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When you are looking into a game and it feels like this guy is behind it, it's time to cut out quick. Kingdom Death has always been some guy's excuse to make all his weird slave/pregnancy/rape fetish poo poo and get paid for it by That Creepy Dude at every game store despite a few good models.
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