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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I've been thinking about Jungle Strike lately. What a badass game it was. It was so ahead of it's time. Really the whole strike series was cool, but Jungle strike was the one I had as a kid so it's the most memorable for me.

It was a goddamn early/mid gen Sega genesis game, but right out of the gate you are treated to a 3d model of an apache helicopter that shoots missiles straight into your face and flys through a Jungle, accompanied by a raging soundtrack. Hit start and there are pretty much full blown cutscenes and a super serious setup with terrorists blowing up an island. They even animated the reporters face which looks hilarious but I appreciate the effort. Then you actually start playing and it's basically a precursor to open world games, survival games and twin stick shooters. There are real missions. There's even destructible environments. Later on you get a hovercraft and iirc you can even get out and run around on foot.

Tbh I haven't played it in like 20 years so my memory is mostly running on nostalgia, but I remember the gameplay being really cool and frantic. Like, you were constantly fighting the clock and had to keep getting fuel and ammo while terrorists bombed things. The game didn't really wait around you. I remember it having a weirdly large amount of depth for the time.I was also terrible at it. I don't think I ever played the last level.

Check out this next level poo poo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3FLmNIA1BE

Feel free to talk about Jungle Strike and other games that were way ahead of their time.

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MOVIE MAJICK
Jan 4, 2012

by Pragmatica
I played desert strike, is it similarly good?

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


It's pretty much the same thing only JS was a little more ambitious. Desert Strike is probably more well known because it was the first one.

Astrochicken
Aug 13, 2007

So you better go back to your bars, your temples
Your massage parlors!

Man, this was a great game. A game of vision, and guts. And there isn't even a plaque, or a signpost, or a statue of it.

Mechanical Ape
Aug 7, 2007

But yes, occasionally I am known to smash.
Was this the series that had Soviet Strike? I loved that game and still love it. They got live actors to do the intros and mini-briefings and they were actually pretty good. Not being able to save mid-mission is a pain, but you get a fair amount of flexibility in doing the objectives.

Hard as balls, though. I had to memorize pretty much the whole map and the hidden secrets to get enough ammo/fuel/lives to succeed. By the time you finish a mission, you are pretty much an expert in that mission.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

JS was so loving good. Loved that game.

Urban strike was good, but ehhh. Kinda felt weird, and the infantry stuff sucked.

Soviet strike was loving good, but yeah it was tough. Transylvania especially.

Nuclear strike was terrific as well, with tons of vehicles you could use.

Brigador reminds me of the series, which is an intention I guess. In fact a reboot in the Brigador engine (or similar) would be possibly very cool.

Iymarra
Oct 4, 2010




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Grimey Drawer
There was actually a short story accompanying Desert Strike. It wasn't that bad. It got given away with game magazines at the time.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Mechanical Ape posted:

Was this the series that had Soviet Strike? I loved that game and still love it. They got live actors to do the intros and mini-briefings and they were actually pretty good. Not being able to save mid-mission is a pain, but you get a fair amount of flexibility in doing the objectives.

Hard as balls, though. I had to memorize pretty much the whole map and the hidden secrets to get enough ammo/fuel/lives to succeed. By the time you finish a mission, you are pretty much an expert in that mission.

Yeah soviet strike and nuclear strike were great too.

They came out in a time where games where catching up so they sort of had less of a wow factor but they were solid sequels.

I'm pretty sure you actually couldn't save in Jungle Strike though :lol: I have so many memories of starting the game over from the beginning. Although it's entirely possible I was just too stupid to figure out how to save.

Spalec
Apr 16, 2010
I played the poo poo out of Nuclear strike and loved it. It was one of my first PS1 games after moving on from the Mega Drive/Genesis and was basically going :aaa: at the actual full motion video with live actors.

Did anyone ever play the spiritual sequel Future Cop: LAPD? They teased it at the end of Nuclear Strike under the name Future Strike but I guess it got rebranded at some point? You were a pretty cool Mech Walker/hovercar transformer shooting up Future LA with the occasional platforming puzzle.

The 2 player Tower Defense mode was rad as hell too.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I actually never got around to playing Future Cop.

That did remind me that there was a pretty sweet battletech Strike knockoff for Genesis though.

Internet Friend
Jan 1, 2001

veni veni veni posted:

I actually never got around to playing Future Cop.

That did remind me that there was a pretty sweet battletech Strike knockoff for Genesis though.

Mechwarrior 3050 ruled because it had a co-op mode where one person drove the legs and the other aimed the body. I love that kind of poo poo.

Brigador is my GOTY 2016 because it's a modern one of these.

Pipski
Apr 18, 2004

Nuclear Strike was great, but I don't think I ever managed to get past the level in Pyongyang, where you were suddenly reduced to using a newscopter with a crappy machine gun.

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011
I really dug Soviet Strike back in the day, which was the only one of the series I had played until I checked out Nuclear Strike a while ago which was also pretty dang cool. The Caspian level in Soviet Strike was my favorite, fighting off hordes of tanks alongside some Mujaheddin type guys with junky WWI tanks. That and the DMZ level in Nuclear Strike played like a cool combination of an action and strategy game.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
I literally didn't know Nuclear Strike had levels outside of the first one due to only ever mucking about in it with my pals when we were about 10 lol

Vakal
May 11, 2008
I always wanted to play the PC version of Nuclear Strike but I could never get it launch, despite trying on Windows 98, 2000 and XP.

Vakal fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Dec 17, 2016

Sammus
Nov 30, 2005

Are there any modern games that try to capture the magic of the Strike series?

Vakal
May 11, 2008

Sammus posted:

Are there any modern games that try to capture the magic of the Strike series?

The closest I have found is Renegade Ops.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

Man the Strike series takes me back. I never played Urban Strike though and only ever managed to finish Soviet Strike somehow, which I'm led to believe is the hardest in the series so I dunno how that was the one game I did manage to beat.

How did Urban Strike turn out anyhow? It's the one game nobody ever talks about. Everyone talks about Desert Strike for starting the series, Jungle Strike for being an excellent sequel, Soviet Strike for bringing the series to 3D and Nuclear Strike for being the last in the series but I haven't heard anything about Urban Strike.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Renegade ops gave me the same feels to some degree. I normally hate twin stick shooters but I loved it. It's not totally the same as Strike but it didn't feel as mindless as most twin stick games and I found myself enjoying it for a lot of the same reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP_h4KUSdO0

Edit: Beaten while I was finding a Youtube video. :v: Play Renegade Ops.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Mr. Fortitude posted:

Man the Strike series takes me back. I never played Urban Strike though and only ever managed to finish Soviet Strike somehow, which I'm led to believe is the hardest in the series so I dunno how that was the one game I did manage to beat.

How did Urban Strike turn out anyhow? It's the one game nobody ever talks about. Everyone talks about Desert Strike for starting the series, Jungle Strike for being an excellent sequel, Soviet Strike for bringing the series to 3D and Nuclear Strike for being the last in the series but I haven't heard anything about Urban Strike.

Urban Strike seems to be the least well received in the series. I actually remember thinking it wasn't very good as a kid but I couldn't even tell you why anymore.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

Sammus posted:

Are there any modern games that try to capture the magic of the Strike series?

Brigador has been mentioned a couple times and it's a game I strongly recommend even though I don't think it's directly influenced by the Strike games: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3778563


There's also an indie homage being made in Korea that seems promising:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9pBwW7uvp4



Mr. Fortitude posted:

How did Urban Strike turn out anyhow? It's the one game nobody ever talks about. Everyone talks about Desert Strike for starting the series, Jungle Strike for being an excellent sequel, Soviet Strike for bringing the series to 3D and Nuclear Strike for being the last in the series but I haven't heard anything about Urban Strike.

From what I recall, there are a lot more (ugly) pre-rendered sprites and you spend way too much time running around as a little dude which is infinitely less fun than being in a vehicle.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Pipski posted:

Nuclear Strike was great, but I don't think I ever managed to get past the level in Pyongyang, where you were suddenly reduced to using a newscopter with a crappy machine gun.

Pyongyang was definitely hard, but you end up getting a Cobra from the museum (yeah...) and poo poo gets alot better.

The DMZ mission is my favorite in the franchise, with all the poo poo going on and scripted events you could affect like the Scud strike that would blow up the A10 if you didn't kill it in time. Then the minisubs offloading commandos who would blow up US supply bases if you didn't react to their detection.

poo poo was amazing.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



I played the poo poo out of the Strike games, they kicked amazing rear end.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

I looked some stuff up about Urban Strike and it's pretty funny that the main villain is Donald Trump. A billionaire tycoon who ran for President, promised to "take back America" and showing the political establishment how the US should be run and owns a lot of real estate.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

veni veni veni posted:

Yeah soviet strike and nuclear strike were great too.

They came out in a time where games where catching up so they sort of had less of a wow factor but they were solid sequels.

I'm pretty sure you actually couldn't save in Jungle Strike though :lol: I have so many memories of starting the game over from the beginning. Although it's entirely possible I was just too stupid to figure out how to save.

It had a password system. I also remember being able to crash your helicopter on top of the president's limo by running out of fuel on top of it. Also blowing a hole in the white house roof snd getting yelled at for it.

Twilkitri
Feb 23, 2013
I had Jungle Strike for the Game Boy; from what I know it's fairly janky compared to the home console versions. I don't recall copilots having any obvious effect on your shooting, the hovercraft can't run into things fast enough to make them explode (not that that's a particularly bad change), I don't think enemy helicopters ever actually moved, killing tower sentries wasn't a thing and you had to destroy each tower completely to get rid of them...

The main thing which stands out in my memory is that the first level was one of the hardest ones in the game, although I don't remember what was particularly difficult about it offhand, and then most of the rest of the game is much easier - the following level (the hovercraft one) in particular being the easiest level in the game. (Helped by things like the enemy submarines not moving and not actually being able to attack.) Took me forever to beat the first level, then pretty much blasted through the rest of the game without many issues - until the final level, which has that terrible mission where you need to kill a whole bunch of enemies spread out across the map and you don't have any information on where they are.

The night level was also fairly difficult until I found out that one of the later missions, which revealed the locations of fuel/ammo/etc, was available from the start of the level.

We had a demo of Desert Strike for PC, which I tried to play a few times but I was terrible at it so I never ended up beating it. Never got the chance to play any of the entries following Jungle Strike.

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Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
I loved the Strike series. I played Jungle Strike first and was blown away with the how fun it all was. First mission has you flying around DC taking out terrorists in VW camper vans, saving monuments and escorting Bill Clinton's limo to safety. Then you're loving about with a hovercraft on the ocean somewhere, followed by a night time level where you can't see poo poo unless you start firing off fuckloads of ordnance. You rescue some POW who turns out to be some awesome co-pilot/machine gunner then a few levels later you're flying a loving stealth fighter around Aztec temples and bombing drug lords into the stone age, before returning to DC for an endearingly ridiculous finale where Saddam Jr tries to drive a nuclear missile truck into the White House. Plus that opening titles theme is still awesome even today.

From there, I went back and tried Desert Strike, which was a decent first game but only had 4 levels and the Apache was the only vehicle on offer. Urban Strike was kinda meh overall, the indoor sections were lame but there were a few cool missions, like the fog-shrouded San Fran one, and yeah, the story is especially hilarious nowadays.

Fast forward a few years and I picked up Soviet Strike cheap on sale. The reviews hadn't been kind, they called it out for basically being the same game all over again in shiny new polygonal clothing while being backward enough to still make Russians the badguys but honestly, I loving loved it. The presentation was ahead of its time, with pretty decent live action performances and an insane amount of information on just about every aspect of the game, tech and missions therein. The near RTS aspects of one mission especially was great too, as you helped a rebel insurgency hold off advancing battalions, arranged defence placements, set up traps, the works. Nuclear Strike was just more of the same but that's fine when it's done well. Alas, it was the last proper Strike game and they've never seemed interested in revisiting it. The CNN correspondent who was really a superspy field ops and propaganda specialist should have gotten her own game, dammit.

Still say Nick was totally the Shadowman, mind.

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