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Dear Viewer, I'm sorry to say that the television program you are currently considering watching is not going to be pleasant. It will begin to bring the tale of the three unfortunate Baudelaire siblings to the small screen for the first time. Although these children are intelligent and kind, their lives are beset by misfortune. Every episode of this show is filled with one disaster after another, as a sinister plot unfolds around them. In just this first season, the Baudelaires will be forced to endure such horrors as a poorly acted play, a deadly snake, ravenous leeches, a fearsome villain, and coupons. I swore long ago to chronicle this sad story, and more recently to bring it to a new audience through Netflix. You however are under no such obligation. I highly recommend that you avoid this show and instead seek out something more cheerful, such as Crazy Ex-Girlfriend or Game of Thrones. With all due respect, Lemony Snicket Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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Netflix is releasing Season the First of Lemony Snicket's A Series Of Unfortunate Events in full on Friday the 13th of January, 2017 A Series of Unfortunate Events is a new show on Netflix based on the series of children's books by the same name by Lemony Snicket (the pseudonym of Daniel Handler).. It tells the story of the Baudelaire Orphans who, after the tragic deaths of their parents, find themselves embroiled in misfortune as a terrible villain named Count Olaf does everything he can to get his hands on the fortune their parents left them. A mystery about the truth of their parents lives also hangs over them throughout the series. The books consist of the 13 main books, and then a number of supplemental books dealing with more in depth backstory and side stories of the world they take place in. This first season of the show will be covering the first four books - The Bad Beginning, The Reptile Room, The Wide Window, and The Miserable Mill. From the trailers it also looks like they are bringing in certain plot elements that only appeared in later books to give the show a more cohesive build up. These trailers should give you a brief idea of what to expect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tup-5yOcJuM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHyxlzHudoU Cast  The three Baudelaire orphans are the eldest sister Violet Baudelaire (Malina Weissman), the middle brother Klaus Baudelaire (Louis Hynes) and the baby sister Sunny Baudelaire (Presley Smith). The series follows them as they struggle to stay safe and get to the bottom of the many mysteries that surround them.  Mr. Poe (K. Todd Freeman) is the well-meaning but unimaginative banker who for some reason is charged with handling the Baudelaire's transition to a new guardian after their parents' demise. He maybe doesn't do such a great job.  Count Olaf (Neil Patrick Harris) is the new guardian assigned to care for the Baudelaires. He is a highly unpleasant man who assigns the Baudelaires all manner of difficult and tedious chores. However his true motives are mysterious, a word which here means "he wants their money and there is no scheme he will not attempt, no level to which he will not stoop to get his hands on it."  Lemony Snicket (Patrick Warburton) tasked himself with writing down every detail of the Baudelaire's lives. He serves as the narrator of this story, dutifully retelling the sad events that he is powerless to change. Why is he so devoted to this duty? If you watched the trailers you may have noticed many other familiar faces of well-known actors, but for various reasons I won't be listing them in the OP. You'll find out who they are when they show up. Spoiler Rules X-O posted:
Finally, considering that this show is based on a series of books that completed years ago, the whole story and the answers to many questions that pop up along the way are already out there. I kind of doubt this show and thread will be popular enough to warrant a separate spoiler thread so I'd just like to request that people avoid talking too much about book spoilers. Maybe when the season is out there we can discuss adaptation differences with the first four books, but otherwise let's let newcomers experience this story blind. Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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A small personal note for anyone who’s interested – these books played a very significant role in my formative years. Something about them inspired and excited teenage me more than any other. They’ve been over for a long time now (though a handful of spinoff books just finished coming out in 2015) but they still hold a very special place in my heart. I, like many others, was disappointed by the 2004 movie adaptation that covered only the first 3 books. With more time to spend on each book, with Daniel Handler more directly involved, and from what I’ve seen in the trailers, my hopes for this Netflix series are much higher. I hope we all enjoy it whether you are a fan of the books or know nothing about them.
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Regy Rusty posted:A small personal note for anyone who’s interested – these books played a very significant role in my formative years. Something about them inspired and excited teenage me more than any other. They’ve been over for a long time now (though a handful of spinoff books just finished coming out in 2015) but they still hold a very special place in my heart. I, like many others, was disappointed by the 2004 movie adaptation that covered only the first 3 books. With more time to spend on each book, with Daniel Handler more directly involved, and from what I’ve seen in the trailers, my hopes for this Netflix series are much higher. I hope we all enjoy it whether you are a fan of the books or know nothing about them. I agree with all of this especially the first part
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My 9 year old just finished the books a few months ago and has watched the movie more than I care to think about. We're resubscribing to Netflix just for this, so I hope it lives up to her expectations. Pretty good cast, from what I've seen, though. If there's one thing I really do appreciate about the Lemony Snickett books is how well they acknowledge just how morbid the sense of humor the average child possesses. Kids are really loving weird and focus on some unsettling poo poo sometimes, and I feel like adults are loath to admit that for the most part. God knows no one was willing to cater to that when I was a kid. DangerDummy! fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Jan 7, 2017 |
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It's actually rather smart to divide each season into four books. I was thinking that they would end at every third book because each one sort of ends on a turning point for the series and/or has a big cliffhanger, but four still works like that. And then this way they can just do The End as like a finale movie or something.
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Hmm. By the title I thought this might be a documentary about 2016 that got a quick turnaround. Seriously though I've never heard of this property before and know nothing beyond what I've seen in the trailers and it seems interesting. I'll definitely give it a watch.
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It might just be me seeing things, but is that a cameo by Will Arnett and Tina Fey, in the picture at 1:17 into this trailer? They're the third and fourth from the left, respectively. Accordion Man posted:It's actually rather smart to divide each season into four books. I was thinking that they would end at every third book because each one sort of ends on a turning point for the series and/or has a big cliffhanger, but four still works like that. And then this way they can just do The End as like a finale movie or something. The intention is to do five books for season 2, and then the final four books for the show's third season.
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Open Source Idiom posted:It might just be me seeing things, but is that a cameo by Will Arnett and Tina Fey, in the picture at 1:17 into this trailer? They're the third and fourth from the left, respectively. Definitely Will Arnett. Doesn't look like Tina Fey. A quick Google search seems to indicate it's Cobie Smulders.
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X-O posted:Definitely Will Arnett. Doesn't look like Tina Fey. A quick Google search seems to indicate it's Cobie Smulders. Ah. So presumably they'll be the Squalors. Not who I'd have picked. but I'm interested to see what they'll do with the pair.
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Never read the books but the talent they have on board for this thing is kind of insane. Definitely looking forward to checking the show out on that basis alone.
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I've been looking forward to this ever since they announced it... last year? Or was it late 2015? I probably only started reading the books towards the end of their run, but I'm sure I enjoyed them as much as anyone else here. I love Snicket's narrative voice especially, and that's played a major influence on how I write. also op I can't believe you missed the opportunity to do this Regy Rusty posted:Count Olaf (Neil Patrick Harris) is the new guardian assigned to care for the Baudelaires. He is a highly unpleasant man who assigns the Baudelaires all manner of difficult and tedious chores. However his true motives are mysterious, a word which here means "he wants their money and there is no scheme he will not attempt, no level to which he will not stoop to get his hands on it."
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keen for this i seem to have been invited to two binge parties and will probably attend both
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fractalairduct posted:I've been looking forward to this ever since they announced it... last year? Or was it late 2015? You're right that was an egregious error on my part. I'll rectify it immediately.
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I'm another poster whose childhood heavily included this series, and I'm very excited for this show. I loved the 2004 film as well, and just from the trailers it seems that this adaptation's not brushing it under the rug; the shot of Stephano jamming his knife into the door, Captain Sham's outfit, the designs of Olaf and Aunt Josephine's houses, Barry Sonnenfeld's involvement, not to mention how uncanny a dead ringer for Emily Browning Melina Weissman is. On the casting for this show that we can see in the trailers: I'm very happy to see Rhys Darby as Charles, especially since he pops up again in the later books. I also think Aasif Mandvi and Alfre Woodard are smart casting for Uncle Monty and Aunt Josephine; beyond being two great actors, they destroy any pretense that they're actually the Baudelaires' relations. I think this fits well with the VFD plot being pushed into the earlier books' stories. Open Source Idiom posted:Ah. So presumably they'll be the Squalors. Not who I'd have picked. but I'm interested to see what they'll do with the pair. Oh, I hope so. Esme Squalor was one of my favourite book characters. Mameluke fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jan 8, 2017 |
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I wish they went with my idea of doing a mini-season for each book (4-5 episodes depending on book length) and releasing them every few months (obviously this wouldn't work for TV logistics reasons). The problem the movie had was trying to cram multiple stories into a single product, and putting multiple books into a single season could easily come with the same pacing and narrative issues. Tentatively excited. I do wish they'd stop casting relatively young comedians as Olaf though. I always pictured him older with more of a dry humour. Both Carrey and NPH have the over the top villainy and bad-disguise-haver elements down, but they both lack the faux-distinguished nature that comes with the whole 'Count' thing. I say this but I've never once been able to come up with someone that should play him. stev fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jan 8, 2017 |
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I've been really looking forward to this as well. I loved the way the narrative unfurled in a way that was consistent with the idea that Lemony was following any leads he could find, although I won't elaborate due to spoilers. I also liked the twists in the jokes that were used, like in the first book he uses a big word and, in the "____, which is a word which here means ______" format, defines it. On the third time the joke appears he inverts it - he uses a fairly simple term then overcomplicates it with Jargon. An made up example of the inversion - "The Baudelaires were able to forsee the events about to unfurl, which is a phrase that here means Prognosticated."
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Steve2911 posted:Tentatively excited. I do wish they'd stop casting relatively young comedians as Olaf though. I always pictured him older with more of a dry humour. Both Carrey and NPH have the over the top villainy and bad-disguise-haver elements down, but they both lack the faux-distinguished nature that comes with the whole 'Count' thing. I say this but I've never once been able to come up with someone that should play him. Peter Cushing's been digitally resurrected once already this year, why not?
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BioEnchanted posted:I've been really looking forward to this as well. I loved the way the narrative unfurled in a way that was consistent with the idea that Lemony was following any leads he could find, although I won't elaborate due to spoilers. I also liked the twists in the jokes that were used, like in the first book he uses a big word and, in the "____, which is a word which here means ______" format, defines it. On the third time the joke appears he inverts it - he uses a fairly simple term then overcomplicates it with Jargon. An made up example of the inversion - "The Baudelaires were able to forsee the events about to unfurl, which is a phrase that here means Prognosticated." the best ones are later on when he starts giving definitions that accurately describe the situation the Bauldelaires are in, but have nothing to do with the actual meaning of the word.
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They should have kept Jude Law as Lemony to create the conceit that there's one true Lemony Snicket doing various retellings of the Baudelaires' story. Also, Patrick Warburton is cool but based on the Netflix trailers, Jude Law's sounds sadder, which is how I imagined Lemony to sound. Still excited though!BioEnchanted posted:I've been really looking forward to this as well. I loved the way the narrative unfurled in a way that was consistent with the idea that Lemony was following any leads he could find, although I won't elaborate due to spoilers. I don't know if they can convey this in the show, but I loved how Lemony wrote as if he was getting into all sorts of sad adventures of his own on his quest to figure out what happened to the Baudelaires. For instance, in one book he just inserts a letter to Beatrice or something like that right into the middle of the narrative, saying that he knew if he hid it there, nobody else would ever see it because the story of the Baudelaires is just too sad for anyone to get through. Also wasn't there one time that he was writing while tied to a deathtrap of some sort?
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^ I believe Lemony Snicket would insist on having different actors play him in every adaptation of the medium, so as to confuse and frustrate his enemies. OP did you get that first post from a place or did you write that yourself? If the latter, well done, that sounds exactly like a Snicket passage. I'm pretty excited for this show, I loved the books. I kind of hope that the television run gives the story an actual ending though
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8-Bit Scholar posted:OP did you get that first post from a place or did you write that yourself? If the latter, well done, that sounds exactly like a Snicket passage. I wrote it myself! I did my best to emulate the style from the backs of the books without stealing directly from them (though I couldn't resist using the coupons joke).
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They had me at "Neil Patrick Harris". He has a bizarre ability to completely run away with whatever show they put him in. Hell, he's the reason that the last couple of seasons of "How I Met Your Mother" were watchable.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:
Woah woah woah. The books ended beautifully.
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Argue posted:They should have kept Jude Law as Lemony to create the conceit that there's one true Lemony Snicket doing various retellings of the Baudelaires' story. Also, Patrick Warburton is cool but based on the Netflix trailers, Jude Law's sounds sadder, which is how I imagined Lemony to sound. Still excited though! I think my favourite parts wre when he'd get emotional and accidentally leak info about his adventures. Like if discussing important objects that are otherwise overlooked the examples would be a map of an unrelated area in an unusual place, a small shoe left at the scene of a robbery, or A sugar bowl, foolishly stolen from a fateful dinner party. I also loved that he refused to talk about himself due to him being without hope, so when the Baudelaires find something of him, like a photo in which he appears, he describes a sad, gaunt little writer, lurking at the back of the photo as it is irrelevant to him that he is that writer. It really sells the air of hopelessness. A cool new trailer! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHgq9BgJ9L4. Love the mention of Various Frequent Disasters 
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I wasn't the right age to be interested in these books, and the movie bored me. But I loved Roald Dahl books when I was growing up and this gave me those kind of vibes. Am I destined to just hate this series or should I give it a shot?
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teacup posted:I wasn't the right age to be interested in these books, and the movie bored me. But I loved Roald Dahl books when I was growing up and this gave me those kind of vibes. Am I destined to just hate this series or should I give it a shot? Only one way to find out. Try it.
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I've been looking forward to this since I first saw the trailer posted on Facebook in November or so. I never finished reading the books, but I enjoyed what I got up to (The Ersatz Elevator I think)
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Steve2911 posted:I wish they went with my idea of doing a mini-season for each book (4-5 episodes depending on book length) and releasing them every few months (obviously this wouldn't work for TV logistics reasons). The problem the movie had was trying to cram multiple stories into a single product, and putting multiple books into a single season could easily come with the same pacing and narrative issues. I seem to be the one person on Earth who actually thought Jim Carrey was a good Olaf. I thought the cruel-ly parading around loudly and menacingly thing fit that character really well. Especially with how condescending he is to people that don't realize it's him in disguise later in the books. I'unno.
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An aspect that I liked was that Olaf started out bad at disguises but by the second and third he had started getting better at covering his tracks. For example, Stefano has the eye tattoo visible as he didn't consider it, but Captain Sham has hidden it in a false peg-leg and Shirley onwards cover it with either high-topped shoes or stage makeup.
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I think the problem with Jim Carrey's Olaf, as well as the little we've seen so far of NPH, is that they try to make him funny. He has funny moments, sure, but he should come across as more terrifying than humorous.
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fractalairduct posted:I think the problem with Jim Carrey's Olaf, as well as the little we've seen so far of NPH, is that they try to make him funny. He has funny moments, sure, but he should come across as more terrifying than humorous.
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fractalairduct posted:I think the problem with Jim Carrey's Olaf, as well as the little we've seen so far of NPH, is that they try to make him funny. He has funny moments, sure, but he should come across as more terrifying than humorous. I'm not sure I agree. I always found the character about as funny as he was threatening. Perhaps that's a consequence of the age at which I was reading the books. I was twelve or so, and the scariest thing in them, by far, was just how consistently unfair and untrusting every single other adult was. No matter how many times Klaus or Violet proved that they were right to Poe, or their Guardians showed themselves to be supportive and accommodating people, they'd just absolutely refuse to take the children or their warnings seriously. The complete, systemic failure of adults to accommodate for the children in their care, when those adults weren't actively villainous themselves, allowed them to be exploited and often killed by a man who couldn't have been more like an enormous cartoon rat come to life had he been drawn by Walt Disney himself. So, in moments like Sunny's attack on Justice Strauss, or the kids attacking Hal are so conflicting -- those people are the real problem here, but they're also essentially good people who constantly show the capacity for change. But, at that moment of crisis, that's far too little, and it's far too late. Mostly at this stage I prefer Jim Carrey, because I can't quite get over a blue eyed Olaf. The eyebrow ridges on the costuming don't look quite right either, but these are all -- literally -- cosmetic issues.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I was twelve or so, and the scariest thing in them, by far, was just how consistently unfair and untrusting every single other adult was. No matter how many times Klaus or Violet proved that they were right to Poe, or their Guardians showed themselves to be supportive and accommodating people, they'd just absolutely refuse to take the children or their warnings seriously. The complete, systemic failure of adults to accommodate for the children in their care, when those adults weren't actively villainous themselves, allowed them to be exploited and often killed by a man who couldn't have been more like an enormous cartoon rat come to life had he been drawn by Walt Disney himself.
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Look away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GeCPanRHU0
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Neat (though silly). I really hope they find a way to work this in somewhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB4G5hzDqeE
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achillesforever6 posted:Which is why Tim Curry in his prime would be the perfect Olaf He reads the audio-books for the series.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Ah. So presumably they'll be the Squalors. Not who I'd have picked. but I'm interested to see what they'll do with the pair. episode 1 holy poo poo that's not who they are at all!
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