Bifauxnen posted:

yeah, also I just realized I don't even know if we get to find out publicly who went where. If so, I will be judging everyone for their choices.

Quidthulhu posted:

also that joke falls flat if you don't put yourself as town imho

King Burgundy posted:

Having said that, I'm not seeing what you all are seeing.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Is there anything in the last 160 posts that is worthwhile

Max posted:

The scummiest of emotes.

gif Probst posted:

not interacting, not shitposting, doing setup spec feels like breadcrumbing to me for late game "hey i tried to figure things out early this is town"

The Lord of Hats posted:

I mean, I've got other stuff feeding into the setup spec, but I don't think it'd be a good idea to blare it all out immediately before I've seen anything else.

Also, reading shitposting or the lack thereof as an alignment tell seems pretty dumb to me.

Birdstrike posted:

Real talk, Jeabus opened with

I thought it was odd because I couldn't initially tell if I'm town. I'm definitely anti-scum but I couldn't confirm if I am part of the town "faction."

So I asked about the n0 flip which purports to show the demise of one of my enemies, but Jeabus didn't express an opinion on whether it was good and so I think they're ducking me.

Bifauxnen posted:

I can't actually figure out if you are actually implying n0 actions existed or not? Like I could understand questioning just the nature of the n0 plotpoint flavor, it is unusual to kick off a game of Mafia with an n0 plot death that's scum instead of town. But.... not really in this case, when you look at the flavor. I find it suss that you wouldn't notice that detail if you were thinking that much about it. Especially if you were town.

I think a lot of people just really really wanted that scum dead. An uninformed majority of people, as it were.

TMMadman posted:

Also, I think this is right:

##vote MMT

She hasn't poked me yet at all and that is usually one of the first things she does when I'm in a game. Combined with what I feel is labored reasoning to vote Asiina, I think this is a good vote.

Murmur Twin posted:

I'm trying to gauge if 8Bux is faking content here - what is even slightly scummy about me leaving the solitary vote on someone this early on D1?

* (hi btw! really glad to see you playing Mafia again )

TMMadman posted:

As far as I can tell Jeabus only has 2 other games under his name and if that is truly the case, then I'm probably not going to be interested in voting for him on D1 unless he actually scum claims.

Now if he's played before under a different name, I would be much more likely to vote him today.

So Jeabus, have you played here before under a different name?

Captain Foo posted:

you weren't asking me, but i think he's kinda scummy for pushing setup spec hard as a good thing on D1 of a vastly complicated game

Murmur Twin posted:

I was more teasing Quid for lurking through his last few games than I was calling him scummy. We were knee-deep in jokephase so I figured that was clear?

Murmur Twin posted:

I was more teasing Quid for lurking through his last few games than I was calling him scummy. We were knee-deep in jokephase so I figured that was clear?

Birdstrike posted:

It's white noise and you were doing the same earlier about Hats.

Who is scum and why?

Max posted:

Do we know they already had the info?

peramene posted:

Flavor matters, Mac hosed up, doesn't want to see why, that's good enough for me on d1. We now return you to your tail-feather posturing already in progress.

Quidthulhu posted:

But full disclosure, I haven't had time to read the initial interaction that everyone's talking about, so I'm looking more at how people are discussing it than the actual event. In that regards, I think you're being genuine.

quote:

I've already said that I haven't really reviewed all the N0 setup spec stuff and have been looking more at what people are saying about it / each other because I think that's more useful. You are picking some Hats quotes that are before the delineation I posted of my suspicion.

The Lord of Hats posted:

quote:

I stand by my standing vote, and the fountainhead of my read is that assuming scum has a vanilla PM and explicitly starting the flavor of town alignment is playing against that alignment, intentionally or not. Refusal to see that, I don't care why, is just about as scummy as I can comfortably day say anyone gets d1. If he's town, per his own admission, who gives a poo poo?

Jeabus Mahogany posted:

Considering the other part of the read is also based on a meaningless jokepost, Birdstrike fished real hard for that and I'm super suspicious of anyone who said that it was a good read, Asiina especially

Max posted:

Oh and TMM is pinging me hard because

...

He is just way too concerned about how people are viewing him and not doing enough actual casing. Would vote him quite hard.

TMMadman posted:

And for the record, I don't see either Hats or Jeabus as particularly scummy right now. I feel like they are being more awkward than scummy. Jeabus is still a newer player and Hats always seems awkward in the early game. However, I will remain wary of Hats because I believe Hats has used that awkwardness as a cover before.

The Lord of Hats posted:

Because for as much as I talked about the n0 kill, and about flavor in general, I managed to skip over the flavor text for the actual kill because I was so taken aback by the kill being on Scum. Because of that, I thought the scenario was more "there's a bunch of people who all hate the Chauvin de la Frenieres on the train, who don't exactly have it in them to commit outright murder, but there's also someone out there whose grudge goes further, and a bloodbath ensues as the townies start feeling opportunistic" than "the townies all got together and merked a dude without an inciting event to get things rolling".

Also, question I'd like to ask, though I doubt I'm getting an answer: Are there any town out there with an alignment other than "Vengeance"?

Eight Dollars posted:

Hey Hats, outside of the alignment stuff, do you have any thoughts about anybody?

Birdstrike posted:

but TMM

Sandwolf posted:

Yo I just decided my character definitely has a moustache.

Lumpen posted:

Bah gawd that's LUMPEN'S music!

Hi friends I have read nothing yet please tell me what is relevant so far in the form of bullet-pointed links. Each player please give me up to 3 post-links that they consider the most damning and scumtellery or relevant to the gamestate, that nobody else linked to. I will read these first and then as I have time catch up on the whole game with the unique perspective tinged by those posts to guide my Scumdar.

Little Mac posted:

Like how do you read that as "angry" rather than "flippant?"

peramene posted:

with such a huge game my recommendation/thought would be to narrow the prospective list to the above eight people and suss out what to do with our shot in the dark, I will begrudgingly vote if/when there is a simple majority but obvi I have no interest in leading any charges myself or pretending anything happening on day 1 has any meaning on day 1

TMMadman posted:

So 8bux, why exactly are you OK with dunking me?

I don't recall your reasoning.

quote:

I have asked people before to look at people and confirm my thoughts. It's maybe a bit rarer for me to do it, but it's not out of the ordinary.

TMMadman posted:

And I'm always amused when people take an honest statement and try to twist it to suit their needs. Why does that last post hit your gut? Maybe other people don't see it the same way, but I feel what I said there was an honest assessment of my play.

Lumpen posted:

This peramene bandwagon seems sudden. Mithross is the only one with even a justification based on a specific post. What's the case in 3 bullets? I am convincable.

Asiina posted:

Real talk, I don't feel strongly enough about anyone to not vote them to prevent a no lynch, but I'd prefer not to vote pera, Quid, MMT, and Birb.