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 ANNOUNCEMENT TRAILER Its here! WEBSITE // STEAM // PARADOX // TWITTER // DISCORD quote:In Age of Wonders: Planetfall, players will emerge from the dark age of a fallen galactic empire to craft a new future for their people. Exploring the planetary ruins and encountering other surviving factions that have each evolved in their own way, players will unravel the history of a shattered civilization. Fight, build, negotiate and technologically advance the way to utopia, in a deep single player campaign, on random maps and against friends in multiplayer.           Well. Wasn't expecting this at all! Welcome back if you're returning from AOW3, welcome anyway if you're new! I'm real curious to find out if this is in the same universe with another time skip. Regardless of it being sci-fi or sci-fantasy, its interesting to see this happen and I'm more then happy for someone to take another swing at the sci-fi tbs. Because goddamn, someone needed to. ---- Goon Tournament!  https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3857341&pagenumber=79#post505454630 Thyrork fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jun 5, 2020 |
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 AGE OF WONDERS 3 WEBSITE // STEAM // GOG If you have archive access: The Age of Wonders 3 thread is here. Google Docs to the Age of Wonders 3 Madmac Guide. I'm slightly bias, at 591 hours I cant give this game enough praise. If you're looking for a turn based combat focused strategy game with a flavor of city building for character and a rich world to stomp around in, you've found something. There's enough community love to keep a interesting modding community too. Although how much of that is legacy or still being worked on, I cannot say.  AGE OF WONDERS 1, 2 and SHADOW MAGIC Age of Wonders // Age of Wonders: The Wizard's Throne. // Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic. Whats that? You want more? My recommendation in that case is Age of Wonders 1 and Shadow Magic, AOW2's stand alone expansion. AOW2 wasn't great and is only worth checking out if you're really looking for a fix. Should you want the entire Age of Wonders upto this point, and you're on steam, heres a bundle.  OVERLORD Bundle on Steam Last time I failed to give this the proper credit. Triumph's I cant comment on Fellowship of evil, as I didn't hear great things and the format didn't appeal to me at the time sadly. Thyrork fucked around with this message at 15:41 on May 27, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 11:14
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im glad my favorite tbs series is back but i hope this doesn't fall to the paradox dlc model. age of wonders expansions with a boat load of campaign content is something i vastly prefer
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May 19, 2018 11:21
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Davincie posted:im glad my favorite tbs series is back but i hope this doesn't fall to the paradox dlc model. age of wonders expansions with a boat load of campaign content is something i vastly prefer I hope it does because loads of free content and constant support is amazing. I don't get people ragging on it. I knew they'd be announcing something AoW today but it being a Sci-fi one is totally out of left field, I'm really surprised! But also excited.
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May 19, 2018 11:23
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Goddam, that is cool as hell. I have been playing AoW 3 on and off since it was released and always felt it was underappreciated in the genre. A sci-fi variant is the game I always wanted, but never realised I needed until now. Hopefully it takes the best bits of Beyond Earth and smushes it all together with AoW 3 combat.
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May 19, 2018 11:27
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It's me, the dude who's a bit excited about this despite the fact that I just realized I'm not very good at Age of Wonders and Heroes of Might and Magic because I play to fight, not to win. That said I hope there's more empire-building this time around.
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Davincie posted:im glad my favorite tbs series is back but i hope this doesn't fall to the paradox dlc model. age of wonders expansions with a boat load of campaign content is something i vastly prefer The DLC for Age of Wonders 3 was some of the best I have seen. When they dropped Tigrans, Necromancers and Frostlings in the same pack 
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May 19, 2018 11:28
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Worth mentioning by the way, post-necromancers 1.8 was a decent patch with fun water shenanigans added. If it's been awhile since you last fired up AOW3, it might be worth a spin. If people want to use this thread to talk AOW3, go ahead! We got nothing else until Triumph feeds us. E: As for post-release content, expansions as Triumph has done before or as ones that Stellaris has are both solid choices to me. If I had to pick, Triumph's larger expansion model is the winner. Thyrork fucked around with this message at 12:12 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 11:38
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i was real excited for a new AoW but... sci-fi? really not feeling it. the designs in those screenshots aren't helping me much either.
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While I wholeheartedly agree with you Thyrork, I can also accept that the "paradox model" could work well here, maybe a new dwelling and some reskinned monsters here and there. A quest pack, an item pack etc. It would rankle some folks for sure, but it could slot in fairly seamlessly. The bigger expansions could be new factions or what not. I know if Triumph had been putting out "Shadow Beast Dwelling" and "God statue quest" DLC since 2014 I would probably still be buying them. The key is perhaps the pricing of such items, but I have never really been someone who balks at a few ££ here and there to support good developers and the continued improvements and maintenance of my favourite games.
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Yeah, thats why I like both formats. Honestly? Stellaris feels like it uses both. You get small stuff like humanoids, free stuff like E: Putting this here: They're currently doing some kind of cutesy "get more people in and we'll show more content" thing. Here's my referral. Full disclosure of course. Referral. No idea if its unique to the person, ill put whatever I can get away with here if it is. E2: I dont see much use in a group for the game until we're closer to release, but I will do a discord closer to the time. Thyrork fucked around with this message at 12:12 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 11:59
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Thyrork posted:Yeah, thats why I like both formats. My problem with bigger ones (when it's not an RPG) is that often I've sort of forgotten about the game by the time it comes out. I did get the AoW3 ones but they didn't really resurrect my interest in the game since it was so much later on.
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I mean, I like post-release content too but a complete experience and a one-and-done format is good too. Theres an interview planned at 17:30 (Five hours from posting this) on the PDXCON stream. https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive
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May 19, 2018 12:27
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I loved all Age of Wonders games (even Age of Wonders 2!), so this is great news. I'm really excited about it, I wonder if they will take any good idea from the Paradox developers. (I know, Paradox publishing is distinct from Paradox developing, but I want to dream!) Edit: Signed up to the newsletter, I'm hyped. Thanks for the thread, Thyrork! Torrannor fucked around with this message at 13:06 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 12:55
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HoMM in space is such a stupidly obvious slam dunk and I can't believe I haven't realized it until now!
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May 19, 2018 13:00
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May 19, 2018 13:01
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Age of Wonders was one of my favourite games when it came out, and Age of Wonders 3 has been pretty great. If you don't have them, you should get them while they're on sale. When the press release for Planetfall came across my desk, I grinned. I didn't know I needed this game, but I'm eager to see what Triumph does with it. Here's to 2019!
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May 19, 2018 13:02
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Maybe it's just the fact that I've been playing New Vegas lately, but the aesthetics feel almost like Fallout strategy, in space. That screenshot with the Crimson Euphoria Hotel in particular feels very New Vegas, with a renovated luxury remnant of the Old World squatting in the ruins of what once was.
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Not gonna lie, when I saw the trailer, my initial thought was "Wait, when did Paradox get a license of Fallout?" Now I'm mad that a Paradox Fallout game isn't a thing.
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I actually just finally talked my friends into getting AoW3 and starting a game last night so this is neat. Do we still have a AoW3 thread? I've got no idea wtf I'm doing in that game but I think I'm doing bad
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Len posted:I actually just finally talked my friends into getting AoW3 and starting a game last night so this is neat. Do we still have a AoW3 thread? I've got no idea wtf I'm doing in that game but I think I'm doing bad We do. Its in the archive but the third post has a link.
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Outlandish hopes for this game for me include a few more systems that aren't just "combat". I think as a combat 4x game AoW 3 is one of the best, but for me it was sort of lacking in some other areas (possibly by design?!). Something I really like about Civ and the Endless Games is that there are a lot of systems to tackle and some races excell at a particular system. I love making dumb trade networks in Civ, stacking up all the bonuses to make one ultra profitable trading metropolis or going 100 % all in on Religion creating a cult that swamps the world. Similarly in Endless Legend you can just go hard on spies with the Forgotten and pillage / sabotage your opponents lands. Its not that any of these things are particularly optimal, but they are fun and present a different route to victory other than "Murder everyone". I know AoW 3 sort of went this way with the beacons, but it felt a bit half baked. I thought the reputation system and alignments were the beginnings of an epic diplomatic system that were never fully realised in AoW 3 and I am interested where it goes in the next game. I noted that in the promo guff they mention "Houses" which immediately calls up memories of Dune. Anything that looks to Dune as an inspiration can't go wrong in my book.
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Tomn posted:Maybe it's just the fact that I've been playing New Vegas lately, but the aesthetics feel almost like Fallout strategy, in space. That screenshot with the Crimson Euphoria Hotel in particular feels very New Vegas, with a renovated luxury remnant of the Old World squatting in the ruins of what once was. you can also spot some Halo grunts in that screenshot and seems to have some Scrin escaping from C&C3
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AoW doesn't really follow in the mold of 4x games like Civ and Endless, it's takes far more inspiration from the exploration-based, RPG esque systems of the HoMM series. That's also what makes AoW entertaining and not a boring slow piece of crap!
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mitochondritom posted:Outlandish hopes for this game for me include a few more systems that aren't just "combat". I think as a combat 4x game AoW 3 is one of the best, but for me it was sort of lacking in some other areas (possibly by design?!). Something I really like about Civ and the Endless Games is that there are a lot of systems to tackle and some races excell at a particular system. I love making dumb trade networks in Civ, stacking up all the bonuses to make one ultra profitable trading metropolis or going 100 % all in on Religion creating a cult that swamps the world. Similarly in Endless Legend you can just go hard on spies with the Forgotten and pillage / sabotage your opponents lands. Its not that any of these things are particularly optimal, but they are fun and present a different route to victory other than "Murder everyone". I know AoW 3 sort of went this way with the beacons, but it felt a bit half baked. I thought the reputation system and alignments were the beginnings of an epic diplomatic system that were never fully realised in AoW 3 and I am interested where it goes in the next game. I kinda agree to an extent - I liked AoW3, but I also like feeling invested in my empires as places where people live and in AoW3 your empire clearly exists wholly to feed your military machine. That being said the design direction for Age of Wonders does seem to focus down on a more streamlined "straight to gameplay" loop, so to speak, so even at best I'm not expecting a full grand strategy game layer.
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tithin posted:Anyone able to recommend any good AoW3 LPs? There is a guy on youtube DasTactic who has played a lot of AoW 3, in fact I think it is his favourite game. His games are usually very very long (think hours) and split over many episodes. He is a pretty chill Australian bloke though and his videos aren't teenage attention grabbing scream fests like you might associate with Youtube.
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I am very hyped for Age of Wonder 4: Spaceman. Although I am a bit worried this means the death of magic and necromancers...
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Oh shoot, I didn't realize this was coming. I am definitely on board with Age of Spacemen.
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Right, timezones are a killer. The interview started and it feels like I missed it. They've got a Q&A thing planned tomorrow and they're "watching some forums."  Its mostly hush-hush at the moment on the details. Interesting to find out its coming to consoles too. Thyrork fucked around with this message at 16:51 on May 19, 2018 |
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I loved the first two games and the grognard in me is a bit irked that they're giving the next game a scifi theme, but I have to admit it's a drat novel idea and I'm curious to see how it turns out.
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/263036272?t=06h49m12s Interview starts here. Release 2019, PC, MAC and consoles. No specific date. Development Been working on it for three years. The ideas for planetfall started when they finished AOW3 and asked "What's next?" Sci-fi fans as well as fantasy ones, they've done fantasy for 20 years and wanted something new. "Mythological science fantasy fits", think Star Wars. Tanks, Mechs, futuristic warfare, human ascendance. Lots of hardware to use. AOW Fantasy is melee focused, AOW Sci-fi will have more ranged but things like insect attacks and laser swords still bring the melee. (I pray for punchbots  )Using cover and environmental destruction will take more of a focus, with things like Overwatch to punish attackers. Hit chances are still here. Story "Planetfall is a turn based 4x stragery game, set in a mythological sci-fi setting, where you rise from the ashes of a galatic empire to build a future for your people." Several factions, multiple stories. "Star Union" is central to the setting, a stellar empire that covered thousands of stars. A crisis isolated those worlds. They survived but are rebuilding. Hyperspace clears up again and reconnect. Conflict erupts but history is discovered. "Like finding traces of the roman empire in modern Europe." A potion of the game is dedicated to "What happened to the Star Union? What history are we missing?" Emergent story telling not just in the campaign but also in the random maps. The game is planet bound. Planets cut up into sectors, you explore them, they might contain ruins of the empire "Las Vegas" entertainment hubs and the like. Stories are told in the sectors telling the tale of the Union. "New IP, resting on the foundation of Age of Wonders." AOW was originally inspired by fantasy wargaming not 4x. Thats the root. They added RPG elements, building up lords and the like, city building. AOW2 was focused on economic game as well as the wizards. This brought that 4x feeling. SM worked with the different layers of the game world (over, under and shadow) and the RNG map designer coming to full realization. AOW3 a "roleplay the leader of your fantasy empire" focus. Race and class as the focus. Planetfall looks at its DNA (multiple map levels, battle layer, strategic layer, RPG with heroes) and works with old, making it better, while not being afraid to cut what they're not getting working right. Battles are still central to the game with this new ranged gameplay. New steps in the meta layer such as sectors, colony management, locations for resources, acquiring sectors, diplomacy (including causi belli!), trade. Gameplay is shown at the end of the teaser, the three shots, a map and two combat layers. Naturally they'll get out more info as time goes on towards release. They're coy about answering if its the same universe, mentioning the space dwelling races of shadow magic and the multiverse being huge. Races. Some will have the feel of what we've seen, "Vanguard" being the "straight shooting humans" type of playstyle without outright being "Humanity". "We dont have "space elves" directly, but we do have "The Amazons". Genetically improved race of women, stronger, don't need men anymore, transform life to suit their purposes. Ride gene modded dinosaurs into battle." Always strap laser cannons to everything! Heroes are still in with the focus on myth based sci-fi, so more star wars then star trek. Lead directly into battle and can pilot walkers, tank and jets. Talking sci-fi book recommends Hyperion , Dune and I. Robot. Q&A panel tomorrow for the people attending the con, but more information will be talked about. Thyrork fucked around with this message at 18:25 on May 19, 2018 |
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Much appreciated Also I'm cautiously excited for this
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Its worth a watch but I wrote something up for it too if people are at work, edited in above.
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Jabarto posted:I loved the first two games and the grognard in me is a bit irked that they're giving the next game a scifi theme, but I have to admit it's a drat novel idea and I'm curious to see how it turns out. Why didn't you like the third one?
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Thyrork posted:Its worth a watch but I wrote something up for it too if people are at work, edited in above. Much appreciated. I started to do it before noticing that you had stealth edited it in there.
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Taear posted:Why didn't you like the third one? I actually have it in my Steam library from a sale years ago, but never tried it. I seem to remember it being panned by the fans and kind of forgot about it.
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Jabarto posted:I actually have it in my Steam library from a sale years ago, but never tried it. I seem to remember it being panned by the fans and kind of forgot about it. You should give it a go, especially with the DLC's if you got them but even without. Lots of time.
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