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Black Robe posted:I'm sorry, I can't get past the description of Sandrah's armour. That just sets the tone for this entire shitshow and I can't stop laughing. I can't decide if in my minds eye the author of Sandrah is a teenage girl self inserting all her fantasies into BG or the Dungeons and Dragons equivalent of this guy:  Writing out some other less benign fantasies.
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mitochondritom posted:I can't decide if in my minds eye the author of Sandrah is a teenage girl self inserting all her fantasies into BG or the Dungeons and Dragons equivalent of this guy: would a girl writer write about priestly armor accentuating their curves? I'm inclined to think no but I am but a mere gay man and not actually a woman so idk
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Black Robe posted:I'm sorry, I can't get past the description of Sandrah's armour. That just sets the tone for this entire shitshow and I can't stop laughing. I was half-expecting an actual chainmail bikini, but apparently we got a chainmail spandex bodysuit instead. Progress! I wouldn't be surprised if a certain set of companions at the Friendly Arm will have lots of fan-written dialogue praising Sandrah and explaining how lucky the PC is that she decided to grace the party with her presence.
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Mr. Lobe posted:would a girl writer write about priestly armor accentuating their curves? I'm inclined to think no but I am but a mere gay man and not actually a woman so idk Speaking from experience with the modding community? Yes. There's an infamous mod for Neverwinter Nights called A Dance With Rogues, and it was written by a woman. For reference, the one time anyone tried to LP that mod here, the moderators called nix on it because it was basically porn. On the other hand, the notorious-for-different-reasons Chloe mod was written by a man, and the notorious-for-still-other-reasons Saerileth mod was written by a husband and wife team. There's a lot of weird poo poo in the odd corners of the Infinity Engine modding community, and it's not always written by the kind of person you'd expect.
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So, Sandrah is...Elminster's daughter who has nothing better to do but show up and be a smoking hot healer/romance option for our level 1 rear end in, erm, sexy chainmail armor. I am here for this amazing shitshow. I look forward to the mods shoving Imoen romance down our throats like its FE4.
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Cythereal posted:There's an infamous mod for Neverwinter Nights called A Dance With Rogues, and it was written by a woman. For reference, the one time anyone tried to LP that mod here, the moderators called nix on it because it was basically porn. Christ, why did you make me remember that...thing? The game has the main character getting sexually assaulted in the first five minutes by someone who later becomes a companion. Almost every quest involved sex in one way or another. Just plain dirty. And yet people wouldn't shut up about how amazing it was. I did like how huge some of the side content was, though. But eventually I just had to give up on the thing because it made me too uncomfortable. Apparently Sandrah has plenty of adult content as well, I've also installed the romantic encounters mod because some of said encounters are hilarious. I guess I'll just have to edit out the graphic bits as I come across them. Comrade Koba posted:I wouldn't be surprised if a certain set of companions at the Friendly Arm will have lots of fan-written dialogue praising Sandrah and explaining how lucky the PC is that she decided to grace the party with her presence.  I'm not touching Imoen romance with a ten foot pole, by the way.
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It's like a car fire. It's horrible, and yet I cannot look away.
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Cythereal posted:I cannot stress enough how much modders love Imoen. At the time I left the modding community there were three separate mod NPCs who romance her, a mod for the PC to romance Imoen, and I'm sure there's more now. Future episodes spoiler: I'm looking forward to your reaction to the Sandrah saga addition in that respect. (it's only an NPC thank god, not Sandrah or CHARNAME) Also Sandrah saga itself is fairly light on explicit content, it's mostly kissing and implied stuff. The romantic encounters mod, eh, not so much. Though she does have a very large harem of NPC lovers. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jan 19, 2021 |
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Leraika posted:I don't think any of the writers involved with these mods would know subtlety if it hit them with a brick. I guess you understand my metaphor.
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What is this  What is this  What is this  Goddamn i haven't been involved with the BG community in like 10 years and this brings all the worst kind of memories right back. It's
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Vichan posted:Anyway, let's examine Sandrah more closely. Biography first: So, uh, about that second sentence... The writer seems to want to hit us over the head with the fact that her father is Elminster, but it seems like she has a younger sibling as well. Wait. gently caress. She's the protagonist's half-sister, isn't she? Comrade Koba fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jan 19, 2021 |
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Comrade Koba posted:So, uh, about that second sentence... I like how people think this foreshadowing is already heavy-handed 
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Cythereal posted:I cannot stress enough how much modders love Imoen. Also, 13 STR? Imoen got swole. Vanilla rocks 9.
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Private Speech posted:Also Sandrah saga itself is fairly light on explicit content, it's mostly kissing and implied stuff. The romantic encounters mod, eh, not so much. Oh no. I made two NPC mods. I am not looking forward to Sandrah wrapping them around her finger.
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I am naturally assuming that wolf companion is a separate mod and Sandrah's modder just had to alter the intro to show that your dog doesn't really trust you but immediately loves her. Also pretty sure Imoen's dialogue is some unholy combination at least four different writers so far.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I am naturally assuming that wolf companion is a separate mod and Sandrah's modder just had to alter the intro to show that your dog doesn't really trust you but immediately loves her. Yes. To be fair she interacts with him a lot. e: Or to crosspost from the IE thread: quote:Your loving dog likes her better? quote:not your dog, your wolf who is really an orphan. you found him beside his slain mother four years ago. he grew up with you and is your friend. quote:Yeah, until that bitch shows up and steals his love for you. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jan 19, 2021 |
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Holy moly, these dialogue additions are gold-standard cringe. I can't wait to watch this nightmare unfold.
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Lmao this is even more immediate in overwriting the entire game than the one I did was, at least that let you get through Irenicus' whole dungeon without mentioning her once!
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fluffyDeathbringer posted:I vote that you be a dick to Sandrah as much as possible As if that's going to be an option. As if you'll get any action or dialogue choices that aren't praise and worship. Calling it now, the only time you'll be allowed to be a dick to anyone is if they say something mean about Sandrah. Or if they exist near her while being female and similarly aged.
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Black Robe posted:As if that's going to be an option. As if you'll get any action or dialogue choices that aren't praise and worship. Actually you can, but then you can't continue playing the mod anymore, so not great for the LP. Potential interaction spoiler: Also I think she makes you choose between keeping herself or Branwen in your party, but otherwise is generally mostly chill.
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fluffyDeathbringer posted:I vote that you be a dick to Sandrah as much as possible Nah, the LP buying into the conceit of the mod makes it funnier and gets us more fantastic self-insert hero worship. Call it metaludonarrative consonance.
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I have no experience with the mod itself, but I know the creator has been banned(?) from both Gibberlings 3 and the official Beamdog forums (maybe Sorceror's Plane too?) for sockpuppeting and the aforementioned adding on to mods without permission. As I recall, the Beamdog ban involved the creator writing a Sandrah romance guide, posting it as someone else, and then getting banned after being called out for ban evasion.
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Jolene posted:I have no experience with the mod itself, but I know the creator has been banned(?) from both Gibberlings 3 and the official Beamdog forums (maybe Sorceror's Plane too?) for sockpuppeting and the aforementioned adding on to mods without permission. As I recall, the Beamdog ban involved the creator writing a Sandrah romance guide, posting it as someone else, and then getting banned after being called out for ban evasion. Oh boy
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I was surprised when we saw her stats - based on the sort of mod this is I was expecting her to have broken numbers across the board, with at least one 19 or 20. Then I got to her gear. Whelp. Also, interestingly enough apparently one of the mods buffed Imoen's strength - she's only supposed to have 9. I assume a QoL fix since it has no impact on her combat stats and only increases her carry weight.
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JohnKilltrane posted:I was surprised when we saw her stats - based on the sort of mod this is I was expecting her to have broken numbers across the board, with at least one 19 or 20. Then I got to her gear. Whelp. Almost certainly a fig leaf so the mod author can argue she's reasonably balanced against her absurd equipment. And if they don't get boosted to high heaven anyway as part of her questline, I'll eat my hat.
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Jolene posted:I have no experience with the mod itself, but I know the creator has been banned(?) from both Gibberlings 3 and the official Beamdog forums (maybe Sorceror's Plane too?) for sockpuppeting and the aforementioned adding on to mods without permission. As I recall, the Beamdog ban involved the creator writing a Sandrah romance guide, posting it as someone else, and then getting banned after being called out for ban evasion. I am in awe of the powerful brain on display
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Cythereal posted:I cannot stress enough how much modders love Imoen. Imoen (in BG1) is an underdeveloped character who happens to be your sister and is the only NPC to stick by you thick and thin, no matter what atrocities/miracles you commit. I can get why modders want to flesher her out a bit though a lot of them took it too far, I guess Jolene posted:I have no experience with the mod itself, but I know the creator has been banned(?) from both Gibberlings 3 and the official Beamdog forums (maybe Sorceror's Plane too?) for sockpuppeting and the aforementioned adding on to mods without permission. As I recall, the Beamdog ban involved the creator writing a Sandrah romance guide, posting it as someone else, and then getting banned after being called out for ban evasion. In awe of the Trump levels of ban evading here mitochondritom posted:I can't decide if in my minds eye the author of Sandrah is a teenage girl self inserting all her fantasies into BG or the Dungeons and Dragons equivalent of this guy: Its not inconceivable a dude would go by Roxanne, but I'm pretty sure the Sandrah author is a woman
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Imoen (in BG1) is an underdeveloped character who happens to be your sister and is the only NPC to stick by you thick and thin, no matter what atrocities/miracles you commit. I can get why modders want to flesher her out a bit I think another part of her popularity is the contrast she provides. Baldur's Gate is a dark series. Even the humor tends toward the gallows sort. Imoen in BG1 is one of the few genuinely good-natured party members in vanilla who maintains her optimism against the increasingly dreary circumstances the party finds themselves in without quite crossing over into being over-bearingly saccharine like Alora. Since Forgotten Realms is the LotR ripoff setting, we can think of her as the Sam to your Frollo (at least in vanilla), and that has an appeal for a lot of people.
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Strawberry Pyramid posted:the Sam to your Frollo We must throw the Ring into the fire...HELL FIRE....
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Sindai posted:I'd definitely read that version of LotR This makes the Viconia romance a lot weirder in BG2, not gonna lie.
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Thanks, I hate all of this.vilkacis posted:Goddamn i haven't been involved with the BG community in like 10 years and this brings all the worst kind of memories right back. It's  eta: Cythereal posted:I'm excited to see how wild this trainwreck gets! You don't have to name names, but color me intrigued. Fighting Trousers fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jan 20, 2021 |
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Definitely curious to see how this goes and how bad the dialogue gets...I somehow feel like this LP is going to be the terrible opposite of the great Syvishtar one I remember from years ago.
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Thunderclan posted:Definitely curious to see how this goes and how bad the dialogue gets...I somehow feel like this LP is going to be the terrible opposite of the great Syvishtar one I remember from years ago. Speaking of, did Vorgen ever finish that LP or did it eventually get abandoned? I know doing a completionist run of literally every mod possible at the time was a massive undertaking, so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't
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Blood Nightmaster posted:Speaking of, did Vorgen ever finish that LP or did it eventually get abandoned? I know doing a completionist run of literally every mod possible at the time was a massive undertaking, so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't I think it got abandoned, don't recall seeing it get more then a tiny bit into BG2 anyway...may have to see if I can find it again though, be a good story to read again even if it is unfinished.
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Vichan posted:Speaking of her inventory:
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ArchWizard posted:Did I miss the part where you show off the, uh... what appear to be vinyl dominatrix boots down there at the bottom? You're absolutely right, I made a screenshot but forgot to add it because I wanted to put the two rings together in 1 screenshot. A very stupid mistake because it might be the best one:  Will add it to the post as well, obviously. Thank you for pointing it out.  Next post will probably be up later today, after that I need to do some planning on what to do next. Vichan fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Jan 20, 2021 |
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Vichan posted:You're absolutely right, I made a screenshot but forgot to add it because I wanted to put the two rings together in 1 screenshot. A very stupid mistake because it might be the best one: ahahaha holy gently caress
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