Cythereal posted:

Yep. Every map in the Infinity Engine games was hand-drawn. So most mods that add new areas to BG2 reuse areas from the series or from Icewind Dale.

There actually is one mod I can think of that adds a legit new area or two, but you can tell it's new and doesn't quite gel with the look of the games.


Also I've reinstalled BG1 and modded it up, and I blame this thread for it. Sandrah does not feature.

Ramc posted:

sandra gaining 7000 quest xp for imoen's quest

Midnight Voyager posted:

I went to look up some mods and see what was around and ran across something totally by accident.

Innocent newbie: Hey, so the version of your mod here is 1.4, but there's a version in this installer that's 4.0.
Someone on the forum: *very politely worded* Yes, 1.4 is the author's version that was updated last month. The 4.0 is edited by Roxanne to feature Sandrah.

So she just... she just takes other people's mods, edits them to feature Sandrah, and redistributes them unmarked in her installer as if they are the originals??? That's more of a "gently caress no" than I even knew!

Midnight Voyager posted:

No, she does it by having her own mod site, from what I can tell. Who's gonna take her down when it's her site?

https://baldursextendedworld.com/

Seriously, here it is.

Cythereal posted:

Could be worse. If you romance Saerileth she pumps out something like sixteen kids in the epilogue.

Thunderclan posted:

Honestly at this point, I would be less then surprised if this mess ends with Sandrah taking over as the next Mystra...which would probably doom the world even more then it probably already is with a mortal Sandrah in it.

Ramc posted:

what is the point of this baby

Thunderclan posted:

Are we sure there is even going to BE a fight? Or is Sandrah just going to end things without any need for Vichan to do anything but stand in a corner and remember the brief moments when he was the focus of the adventure?

Vichan posted:

mitochondritom posted:

Is Roxanne going to edit all of Imoen's dialogue in BGII because I absolutely utterly loathe how she is written in this mod. If I have to to read "Besta" one more bhalldamn time.

Midnight Voyager posted:

Updates on my adventures in Infinity Engine mods and running across the wreckage of Roxanne everywhere I turn:

Roxanne's EET installer includes some things you can't turn off that are labeled as EET Fixpacks. They are not. They tweak poo poo for her mods. Dead serious, I ran across a warning about this.

Her installer doesn't include the original version of some mods she stole or altered on her own AT ALL, namely that Balduran's Tower mod. You can't pick a non-Roxanned mod from that installer.

It is by far the easiest and most convenient mod organizer to use for newcomers. The interface is excellent, and it easily lets you download and install any goddamn Baldur's Gate mod you can think of, even ones that just spring up new on the forum. The alternative, Project Infinity, is really clunky, has a terrible interface, and isn't remotely as newbie-friendly. This isn't like Vortex vs Mod Organizer 2, to use a Bethesda game example. Honestly, Project Infinity barely outranks just figuring it out yourself and running the Weidu installers. Too bad the really handy one is written by a jerk and forces bad edits on you!

...Oh, and I just realized: We have it confirmed that Imoen is NOT Sandrah's sister. So... US being her brother is still an uncomfortable option!

Wait x2: IT'S NOT US EITHER. We know our mother's name from later games. Alianna.

NGL, I have no idea how to spoiler tag in this LP, Sandrah keeps spoiling poo poo left and right.

Midnight Voyager posted:

Okay, modding Baldur's Gate is a little complicated because it's old as poo poo. Let me try to go through it.

First, Baldur's Gate mods. How do you install them? Portrait replacements and very simple overrides go into the override folder, easy. Anything else, you're using Weidu. Guy named Weimer came up with it. I can't really tell you how it works, just that it literally uses a command prompt, that's how old we're talking here. They pretty much install themselves with some y/n input from a user, but you need to pay close attention to what order you install things in, what's incompatible with what, etc. EE has made things slightly easier, I hear, but Weidu is still what people use.

Now, basic EET: There used to be this thing called Big World Project that would merge Baldur's Gate 1/2/TOB into the same game so that you could play them through without having to import saves across games. Also Baldur's Gate 1's engine worked differently, so it meant you could use 2's engine. This evolved into EET, Enhanced Edition Trilogy, for the new games. Same principle. Run everything on BG2, don't have to keep hopping from game to game between them. Even Siege of Dragonspear is started like a "new game" imported from BG1, I hear.

Now, modding for EET: It's not tremendously newbie-friendly as a process to figure out what's compatible with it, what's not, what order to install things in. You basically have to hope people have marked incompatibilities on their mods themselves. So the EET Install Tool (just like BWP before it) tries to help with that. It gives you a GUI and the ability to download and update mods inside the installer, complete with compatibility warnings and errors and all sorts of useful things. This is almost certainly what Vichan used to install EET, Sandrah, and all the other mods. It would definitely be the easiest way.

The process of keeping this installer updated was SUPER time-consuming and draining, however, so guess who took the whole thing over? The endless font of free time, Roxanne. Since Roxanne's controlling the installer, she controls what mods it shows. On the one hand, it's super up to date and very easy to use. I was helping some Russian guy edit the English translation of his new mod, and I saw it pop up on that installer. On the other hand, you can never tell what poo poo Roxanne's sneaked into your game. You can't look at a mod by title and know that it's Roxanne's version. You can't look at a set of required fixes and know that it's just some edits Roxanne made so her own poo poo works better on it, even if that poo poo isn't something you goddamn have installed. You are at her rear end in a top hat mercy.

The alternative is called Project Infinity, and I am fighting with it right now. The GUI is sparse and updates... badly. Like I have a mod installed, I click it, it takes many seconds too long to see if there's any mod metadata, it changes the mod name if so to match it... this happens every time I install a new mod. Checks won't stay checked if I install a new mod either. It is clunky at best. It tries to have the download-mods-from-anywhere feature that EET Install Tool does and it's more transparent about what the mods are and where they come from, but it's got very limited options. Manually adding them in is awkward. It is worse in every way except that it doesn't force Roxanne poo poo on you.

EDIT: and just to clarify further, EET and EET Install Tool are different things. EET just merges the games, EET Install Tool helps you run EET and mod it.

Vichan posted:

They're included at the bottom there for a reason, we can only hope that it won't link to Sandrah at some point.

Vichan posted:

Forgot to screenshot this but the basilisks in this area have been changed to medusas for some reason.

Vichan posted:

Addendum 2 - Murderer! You will pay for this!

Before putting BG1 behind us there was one more thing I wanted to show you guys. We're going to have to rewind a bit for this.



Give the wrong answer to Brage and he attacks us, we follow him to the forest and cut him down.



This triggers a cutscene where Sandrah leaves the party, it lingers for quite a bit so she can get some free hits in.







Sandrah really is the Maryest of Sues.