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 But remastered! They're two of the most infamously bad and ridiculous games out there. They were such mistakes that Nintendo themselves will never acknowledge them as part of The Legend of Zelda's history ever. They're prime fodder for mockery, and cornerstones of shitposting and YouTube Poop-ing. And only a YouTube Pooper could see the good in these games and decide to bring that out. For four years up to the hellhole of 2020, one of them, Seth "Dopply" Fulkerson, did just that. As a chance to prove to himself that he could develop a game, Dopply remade the two best-known Zelda CD-i games for PC, adding several gameplay and mechanical improvements as a "Remastered" mode, but without taking away any of the games' inherent silliness and incongruence. The goofy, awkwardly-animated and voiced cutscenes are still here, looking crisp as ever; the music is still inexplicably rad; walking from one side of a map to the other will still get you hounded by a batshit enemy spawn rate. But it runs at a much faster and smooth 60fps, the hit detection is far more accurate, and the level geometry is finally sensible. Shockingly, once you fix the unplayability of these games, a surprising amount of charm comes out. Like how this Zelda is adorable and will wreck your poo poo. So, join me as I introduce JigglyJacob and MugiStraw to the versions of these classic memes that actually put their best feet forward. Both Link: The Faces of Evil and Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon will be played and completed in three parts each, respectively, with the final parts also diving into some of the extras that Dopply and friends snuck in. And afterward, we even have plans to give their original Zelda CD-i-like a go. But not Zelda's Adventure. Even Dopply thinks that one is unsalvageable. ----------------------------------------- Link: The Faces of Evil    ----------------------------------------- Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon    ----------------------------------------- FeyerbrandX posted:you asked for a green screen you got it ThornBrain fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Mar 15, 2024 |
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The what E: I was always unnerved by how pink everyone's lips are in these cutscenes. E2: no health pickups with some of these enemy layouts is truly demented, but I think that's a holdover from the original? C-Euro fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Mar 4, 2024 |
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Mar 4, 2024 21:36
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Wow, this looks shockingly playable.
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Mar 4, 2024 22:08
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I remember reading an interview with one of the animators a few years back and apparently the cutscene animators were given the character designs and the recorded dialogue and otherwise given creative freedom, which explains A Lot.
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Mar 4, 2024 22:08
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Here's a pretty good retrospective on the CD-I Zelda games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQHtv8xmkk8
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Mar 4, 2024 22:14
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ThornBrain posted:But not Zelda's Adventure. Even Dopply thinks that one is unsalvageable. This is not the first time I've seen someone explicitly exclude Zelda's Adventure from a recorded playthrough of the CD-i games. If anything it makes me even more curious of how bad of a trainwreck that game must be then.
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Carbon dioxide posted:This is not the first time I've seen someone explicitly exclude Zelda's Adventure from a recorded playthrough of the CD-i games. Zelda's Adventure remake was done on a fan mockup of the Link's Awakening/Oracle engine. Except it doesn't have the basic things that make those games playable like knockback or mercy invincibility. So you can cross a screen transition and find yourself stuck inside a monster that hits you for damage every game tick, with no way to get out of it because the damage box for the wand you use to attack doesn't cover inside your model.
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I have to imagine that it says a lot that I've never seen a youtube poop of any of Zelda's Adventure's cutscenes
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I've always been morbidly curious about these games
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It begins I've been looking forward to this ever since we hit the goal way back when and I'm glad you get to do them now in a format that actually functions. Yes, it can be fun to see LPers suffer, but only within moderation and not in a genuine suffering kind of way. I think playing the originals would have fallen into the latter category.
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DMorbid posted:Here's a pretty good retrospective on the CD-I Zelda games: It is crazy how they managed to do as much as they were able to do within the constraints of the hardware. Also, I never knew it was the same guy who did that videogame adaptation of 'Below The Root' for the C=64. That was a favorite of mine in my early computer days.
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Carbon dioxide posted:This is not the first time I've seen someone explicitly exclude Zelda's Adventure from a recorded playthrough of the CD-i games. Digamma-F-Wau posted:I have to imagine that it says a lot that I've never seen a youtube poop of any of Zelda's Adventure's cutscenes There was a run through Zelda's Adventure at GDQ a couple of years ago. I'll try to find it later. The game is bad, but it's unremarkably bad, and not the meme these two games are. Despite attempts. Edit: Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLC6pa3T7m4 IMJack fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Mar 6, 2024 |
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Mar 5, 2024 20:01
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Game Grumps did Zelda's Adventure and watching Egoraptor suffer was very entertaining.
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Mar 5, 2024 22:47
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Somehow these inspired Arzette. In luding the mspaint art
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Mar 5, 2024 23:12
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We meet some of the more colorful cast of Koridai in this part
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The eating guy's voice is a dead ringer for Barney from The Simpsons
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Mar 6, 2024 21:55
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Seeing you spam bombs against rocks when you have the power glove brings me so much pain. The power glove kills basically every non-elemental enemy in a single hit, and destroys rocks instantly.  EDIT: Lol nevermind jumped the gun. I'm dumb.
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Mar 6, 2024 22:11
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This is the game that keeps on giving  At least this version is.
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First episode was great, second episode even better. It's really cool to see something that's about as close to the original creators' vision as one could imagine!
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Mar 7, 2024 04:02
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If I'm remembering John "Faces of Evil and Wand of Gamelon are actually great games, you plebs" Sczepaniak's Hardcore Gaming 101 writeup correctly, the flying enemies do eventually stop spawning, it just takes forever for them to do so.
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That's all for Faces of Evil, so Wand of Gamelon will be next week! PS: this is my favorite thumbnail for either LP, and it was by far the easiest to make. Some true faces of evil
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I love how the wolf who's supposed to be Ganon's most powerful minion sounds like a 13 year old.
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This game (and Wand even though we haven't seen it yet) feel like alphas that were given some actual art assets and music, and then shipped without any playtesting or re-working of the "engine" or whatever. Like yeah it functions, but nobody in their right mind would say that it's good. Also the cutscene art reminds me of a bad Don Bluth knock-off, and I can't be the only person to have thought this before.
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Can you throw the book at other enemies?
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This is very much a "be careful what you wish for/who you screw over and piss off" for Nintendo cause if they had stayed loyal to Sony and the PlayStation continued as a SNES add-on instead of becoming its own console, the gaming industry might have become a very different place.
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https://twitter.com/captpan6/status/1766194533698568634 The impact of these games is wider than any who worked on it could have imagined
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As someone who contributed to the goal to LP the CD-I Zelda games, I'm very happy with how this turned out.
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The king has some serious Mayor Haggar vibes
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Wand of Gamelon begins! You can guess which of these two games I enjoy/respect more by the thumbnails.
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There's actually only a small handful of places in the game that you need ropes. The rest of the time, you can make what appears to be impossible jumps by basically glitching up onto the platforms by jumping at them enough. Including the jump from the cliff top to the bow of the shipwreck!
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Zelda's slightly-stoned attitude does so much to elevate these cutscenes. While Link is into this poo poo a little too much, Zelda just lets all the insanity wash over and through her.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Zelda's slightly-stoned attitude does so much to elevate these cutscenes. While Link is into this poo poo a little too much, Zelda just lets all the insanity wash over and through her. Zelda is just quietly competent compared to Link's loud dipshittery. See: "You killlllled meeeee!" / "Good.  "
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Makes you wonder how often this version of Zelda goes out and gets stuff done while Link is off doing his own thing.
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berryjon posted:Makes you wonder how often this version of Zelda goes out and gets stuff done while Link is off doing his own thing. When Nintendo said Breath of the Wild took place 10,000 years after the latest Zelda, I headcanon'd that the Zelda's since then had been keeping things in check because the wisdom granted to her finally made her realize "hey it's probably easier if we take care of him before he becomes a problem" each time Ganon tried to come back
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Big fan of the time lapse title cards during the intro, you can almost hear the Spongebob voice over them. Also I'd be so pissed if I got through that long area with the Wizzrobe fight, only to realize that I didn't have a bomb to actually finish it out.
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The overworld map music for this game has been unfortunately permanently ruined for me by the GG playthrough.C-Euro posted:Big fan of the time lapse title cards during the intro, you can almost hear the Spongebob voice over them. 
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This part is short but it's GOOD.
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I can't get over the weird King's Retainer guy just looking like a weasel in human form. Like, every time I see him, it's utterly uncanny how he just looks like a weasel.
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I still can't get over the random woman who does a flip for no goddamn reason.
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DoubleNegative posted:I can't get over the weird King's Retainer guy just looking like a weasel in human form. Like, every time I see him, it's utterly uncanny how he just looks like a weasel. It's so jarring going from him and the other characters with hyper-detailed faces to Zelda and Link, whose facial features look drawn on with crayons. Like look at these episode banners. Is it just because they're young and therefore not wrinkly like everyone else?
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