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his idea about what constitutes a "game" is unnerving
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Jul 12, 2017 18:45
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Shaggar posted:IE6 did not encourage abuse of javascript like failfox and chome did. defend all the terrible microsoft products you like, but the browser is indefensible. ie6 left an indelible shitstain across the web.
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Jul 12, 2017 18:51
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no it didn't. it did none of the terrible poo poo that was demanded by web "developers" in failfox, chome, etc... people used those browsers instead of ie6 because they wanted to start abusing javascript . to them IE was not doing all the stupid things they wanted so they started promoting their own poo poo and now we're stuck w/ it. IEs only failure is in that it failed to push non-javascript hard enough.
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Jul 13, 2017 01:22
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The bigger blame for Microsoft was outright stealing Netscape Navigator and embedding it into the OS as the explorer in win95.
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Jul 13, 2017 01:42
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css and even plain vanilla html5 are also why people hated ie6 and ie8, not just javascript. they're all crap, let's start over with s-expressions and lisp.
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Jul 13, 2017 02:13
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Shaggar posted:no it didn't. it did none of the terrible poo poo that was demanded by web "developers" in failfox, chome, etc... people used those browsers instead of ie6 because they wanted to start abusing javascript . to them IE was not doing all the stupid things they wanted so they started promoting their own poo poo and now we're stuck w/ it. you dumb stupid bastard. ie6 couldn't handle simple poo poo like css margins or floats properly. simple html rendering that failfox and chome could easily deal with, ie6 choked. and they clung to it for 5 fuckin years. you can't blame js for that.
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Jul 13, 2017 04:34
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you can blame microsoft for this: getElementById ID with a lower case d gently caress microsoft
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Jul 13, 2017 04:44
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gently caress em
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Jul 13, 2017 04:46
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:you can blame microsoft for this: getElementById
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Jul 13, 2017 04:48
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ie6 was a loving crime against humanity
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Jul 13, 2017 04:52
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Roosevelt posted:you dumb stupid bastard. ie6 couldn't handle simple poo poo like css margins or floats properly. simple html rendering that failfox and chome could easily deal with, ie6 choked. and they clung to it for 5 fuckin years. you can't blame js for that. it worked fine, the spec was trash. LP0 ON FIRE posted:you can blame microsoft for this: getElementById lower case d is correct
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Jul 13, 2017 04:54
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Shaggar posted:lower case d is correct please don't talk about your erectile dysfunction in yospos
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Jul 13, 2017 04:57
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your so wrong. wrong wrong wrong
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Jul 13, 2017 04:59
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Roosevelt posted:you dumb stupid bastard. ie6 couldn't handle simple poo poo like css margins or floats properly. simple html rendering that failfox and chome could easily deal with, ie6 choked. and they clung to it for 5 fuckin years. you can't blame js for that. lol shaggar loves to spout about IE's box model and stuff actually being correct. it's a Shagg-classic ™
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Jul 13, 2017 05:05
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it was correct that's why the first thing in every css since it was changed to the standard is a fix to revert it.
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Jul 13, 2017 05:11
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Shaggar posted:it was correct that's why the first thing in every css since it was changed to the standard is a fix to revert it. what?
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Jul 13, 2017 05:20
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the original IE box model was border box. the "correct" css box model is hosed up trash. all it means is any css you write starts w/ switching everything to border box.
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Jul 13, 2017 05:21
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specifically he's talking about how one of the first things foundation, bootstrap, and possibly other hipster web frameworks do is code:
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Jul 13, 2017 05:24
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i cannot believe you are actually standing up for internet explorer version 6
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Jul 13, 2017 05:27
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There Will Be Penalty posted:specifically he's talking about how one of the first things foundation, bootstrap, and possibly other hipster web frameworks do is lol @ "hipster" frameworks. if you aren't using border-box you are a loving retard. its not even questionable
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Jul 13, 2017 05:46
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Shaggar posted:lower case d is correct
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Jul 13, 2017 12:08
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:you can blame microsoft for this: getElementById I prefer getElementBySuperEgo.
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Jul 13, 2017 13:33
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this really is one of the more perplexing shaggar opinions. not that the javascript future we inhabit isn't bad, but on the one hand microsoft had a lot of hand in making it happen (e.g. inventing ajax for the first owa), and on the other hand i really still can't see the w3c managing to iterate their junk into something workable even given a better start and infinite time
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Jul 13, 2017 13:47
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html 5 and css 3 are Cool and Good what you can do to them using javascript or one of the giant frameworks with 9000 dependencies is not
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Jul 13, 2017 15:13
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pram posted:ie6 was a loving crime against humanity ya this. and how long it stayed around
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Jul 13, 2017 15:16
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I think I already posted this but at my last job the head of front end development had a cake made for when they could finally sunset ie 6-8 support they were using ~40% of their budget supporting 5% of their users
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Jul 13, 2017 15:22
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:this really is one of the more perplexing shaggar opinions. not that the javascript future we inhabit isn't bad, but on the one hand microsoft had a lot of hand in making it happen (e.g. inventing ajax for the first owa), and on the other hand i really still can't see the w3c managing to iterate their junk into something workable even given a better start and infinite time IE6 wasn't the problem. if you developed for only IE6 you were absolutely fine every time. the problem was bad browsers based on bad standards. as web "developers" got on board with those bad standards they also started abusing js to the point its at today. remember that most of these people were Linux users who had never seen a good language and were all coming from p-lang worlds. javascript was fine to them. i'll sort of give you inventing ajax, but they didn't invent it as the json crapfest we have today. it was litterrally xmlhttprequest. it was meant as a way to start delivering xml over http for multiple client types, of which browsers would be one. then web "developers" got ahold of it and hosed it all up with their garbage standards. If IE6 is to blame for anything its for letting up of the gas in pushing the industry to better de-facto standards.
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Roosevelt posted:i cannot believe you are actually standing up for internet explorer version 6 shagger !!! 
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