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GalacticAcid posted:i propose there should be a permanent black history thread in c-spam. if this one closes at the end of the month I’ll start a new one or we could just rebrand this one make it this one this happened a few days ago so it's technically history https://www.reuters.com/article/us-safrica-land-exproriation/vote-in-south-africas-parliament-moves-land-reform-closer-idUSKCN1GB22I the south african parliament is trying to amend the constitution to repossess land from white farmers, who currently own 70% or so of the viable farmland quote:Launching a debate on the motion in parliament, EFF leader Julius Malema said “it was time for justice” on the land issue. 
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Mar 1, 2018 05:53
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Gringostar posted:William T. Sherman, John Brown, and Frederick Douglass would also look great on currency As much as I hate to say it, and for all the unqualified good he did in burning the traitor states to the loving ground, Sherman didn't exactly have the highest opinion of black people.
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Mar 1, 2018 06:12
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Serious posting a sec...after Charlotteville some fellow I know from the pub posted on FB about how he didn't get white privilege, and didn't think it existed. I mean, the guy is basically a walking talking example (in management, a mason), but more it pissed me off that, even after living half my life in Canada nothing makes me feel more American than hearing some idiot Canadian make sweeping proclamations about US race relations. Lots of others at the pub were equally pissed off it turned out, and it lead to a really great night with a fellow American (an African American, who lived near Charlottesville) ranting for hours as the beers flowed. So after the hangover I decided that I really needed a better perspective on what it means to be black in America. So, books. I am over half way through belle hook's Talking Back and it loving owns for perspective on the roles race, sex, and class play in society, especially academia. I I have also got Ta-Naheshi Coates' latest collection of essays, and will follow that up with Frederick Douglass' autobiography. I would welcome further recommendations if anyone has some.
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Mar 1, 2018 06:46
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Bilirubin posted:Serious posting a sec...after Charlotteville some fellow I know from the pub posted on FB about how he didn't get white privilege, and didn't think it existed. I mean, the guy is basically a walking talking example (in management, a mason), but more it pissed me off that, even after living half my life in Canada nothing makes me feel more American than hearing some idiot Canadian make sweeping proclamations about US race relations. Lots of others at the pub were equally pissed off it turned out, and it lead to a really great night with a fellow American (an African American, who lived near Charlottesville) ranting for hours as the beers flowed. Which of Douglass's memoirs are you look at, Narrative, My Bondage and My Freedom, or Life and Times? For my money, the second is the best of the bunch as he goes into greater depth than he did in Narrative (which as its name suggests is just that), while Life and Times suffers a bit from being written late in life and thus tinged with being backward-facing and nostalgic at times.
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Mar 1, 2018 19:04
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Captain_Maclaine posted:As much as I hate to say it, and for all the unqualified good he did in burning the traitor states to the loving ground, Sherman didn't exactly have the highest opinion of black people. washington owned slaves and i think he should still be on the $1 lincoln should still be on the $5 as well and he wasn't fond of black people, he just hated slavery realistically, washington, lincoln, and franklin are fine where they are. maybe keep jefferson on the $2 as well the $10, $20, and $50 should be abolitionists, famous us women, and civil war generals respectively and wilson needs to be replaced by fdr on the $100,00 because gently caress wilson
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Mar 1, 2018 19:21
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Bilirubin posted:who will get this snipe?
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Mar 1, 2018 19:24
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always bet on black
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Mar 1, 2018 19:30
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Wrap it up guys it's back to white history months
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Mar 1, 2018 19:38
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Gringostar posted:the $10, $20, and $50 should be abolitionists, famous us women, and civil war generals respectively
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Mar 1, 2018 22:13
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keep Grant on the 50, he earned it through a lifetime effort of drinking and killing racist southerners
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Mar 1, 2018 22:19
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:keep Grant on the 50, he earned it through a lifetime effort of drinking and killing racist southerners Grant wasn't really that much of a drinker. His reputation as a drunk comes from a combination of him being a huge lightweight who got stupid off like two drinks, and vindictive Southern historians.
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Mar 1, 2018 22:26
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grant is far more notable for his capacity for manly, soulful weeping, a characteristic he shared with charlemagne
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Mar 1, 2018 22:41
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sherman in the front of the $50, lee surrendering to grant at appomattox on the back harriet tubman on the front of the $20, the john brown mural on the back sacajawea/sitting bull/crazy horse the front of the $10, trail of tears on the back Gringostar has issued a correction as of 22:55 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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Mar 1, 2018 22:49
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Gringostar posted:sherman in the front of the $50, lee surrendering to grant at appomattox on the back at the end of the day both those guys were still fighting for white supremacy, just a supremacy ruled by yankee capitalists rather than shared between those capitalists and the dixie aristocrats john brown for the $50, harriet should get her bill to herself
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Mar 1, 2018 22:56
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Which of Douglass's memoirs are you look at, Narrative, My Bondage and My Freedom, or Life and Times? For my money, the second is the best of the bunch as he goes into greater depth than he did in Narrative (which as its name suggests is just that), while Life and Times suffers a bit from being written late in life and thus tinged with being backward-facing and nostalgic at times. the second is the one that had been recommended to me yes
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Mar 1, 2018 22:56
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Bilirubin posted:the second is the one that had been recommended to me yes Don't get me wrong all three are worth reading, it's just My Bondage and My Freedom is the best of the bunch.
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Mar 1, 2018 23:07
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zeal posted:at the end of the day both those guys were still fighting for white supremacy, just a supremacy ruled by yankee capitalists rather than shared between those capitalists and the dixie aristocrats while extremely not wrong, have you considered how much sherman and the southern surrender would piss off racists?
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Mar 1, 2018 23:10
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zeal posted:at the end of the day both those guys were still fighting for white supremacy, just a supremacy ruled by yankee capitalists rather than shared between those capitalists and the dixie aristocrats Karl Marx congratulating Abe Lincoln for freeing the slaves on the front; Sojourner Truth peeing into the ocular cavities of John C. Calhoun on the back.
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Mar 2, 2018 04:37
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it would be extremely weird to put the Trail of Tears on money imo
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Mar 2, 2018 14:44
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The Kingfish posted:it would be extremely weird to put the Trail of Tears on money imo better that than jackson who loving caused it
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Mar 2, 2018 18:03
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who is on bitcoin
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Mar 2, 2018 19:29
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GalacticAcid posted:who is on bitcoin Mark, who did nothing wrong.
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Mar 2, 2018 20:16
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Gringostar posted:better that than jackson who loving caused it idk. is it better to have Thomas Jefferson on money or a picture of a plantation?
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Wrap it up guys it's back to white history months march is womens' history month, but you are allowed to post about non-white women if you promise to be brief.
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