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Tens of OOTS readers get drunk on Coors; Complain about Rubber Balls, Dead Paladins. Now onto this comic... Xykon's best stragedy at this point is to drop a force cage on himself and teleport his rear end home, rather than face a room full of Divine Positive Energy Spirits from the Book of Exalted Deeds. gothfae fucked around with this message at 15:56 on May 8, 2007 |
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Robot Bastard posted:Heck, why not have them start out by committing suicide?! It's the People's Front Of Judea Crack Suicide Squad! ATTACK! urgh... Martyrs must die in the line of duty. Mere suicide won't do the job.
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May 8, 2007 17:11
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Zoolooman posted:Martyrs must die in the line of duty. Mere suicide won't do the job. What about that one paladin who offed herself, then?
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May 8, 2007 17:20
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Presumably Soon understands why she chose to do that and allowed her into the club regardless. An ethical code of conduct is necessarily flexible.
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May 8, 2007 17:24
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You know, the battle between the paladins and Xykon could have just been a montage. Also, a force cage wouldn't help, since the ghost paladins are incorporeal.
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May 8, 2007 17:33
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They wern't going to off themself while they had a chance of beating him, they didn't even know he'd be there. And as for the ball, I think the two work well in concernt. #448 is "ha ha unbeatable Xykon does it again!" wich we've already seen, but re-asserts how evil he is, and then #449 is the "oh shiiit" twist on the initial cliche.
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May 8, 2007 17:33
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Brannock posted:What about that one paladin who offed herself, then? Symbol of insanity is actually permanent, so killing herself may have been out of insanity.
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May 8, 2007 17:53
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greatn posted:Symbol of insanity is actually permanent, so killing herself may have been out of insanity. Even if not, based on the pseudo-Japanese culture, seppuku is the only means she could have restored her honor so in a way she is still a martyr. Or if not, one less person in the awesome-martyr-Paladin-army is hardly going to result in much less absolute ownage.
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May 8, 2007 18:16
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greatn posted:Symbol of insanity is actually permanent, so killing herself may have been out of insanity. I saw it as her experiencing a brief moment of clarity just as she happened to be killing herself due to the insanity. Like, the mind clears for a moment, but it's already too late.
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May 8, 2007 18:39
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Brannock posted:What about that one paladin who offed herself, then? I didn't see her join the Paladin Host.
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May 8, 2007 19:28
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clockworkjoe posted:a force cage wouldn't help Yes it would. Force effects protect against incorporeal and ethereal attacks, and the cage can be made solid. Anyway, I expect a timestop in the next comic.
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May 8, 2007 19:32
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How many spells does he have left though? Such things have been given attention in the past.
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May 8, 2007 19:40
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Taerkar posted:How many spells does he have left though? Such things have been given attention in the past. Between magic items and various possible feats, there's no way to know even assuming he's a regular wizard type.
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May 8, 2007 20:05
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He's a sorcerer, it's been explained.
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May 8, 2007 21:04
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The question is whether or not he's prepared any anti-undead spells. He's prepared a whole lot of spells with which to kill living opponents, but I think the ghost martyrs have thrown him for a loop.
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May 8, 2007 22:57
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Sorcerers can cast whatever they want as long as they know the spell and have a slot left.
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May 8, 2007 22:58
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greatn posted:Symbol of insanity is actually permanent, so killing herself may have been out of insanity. The fact she expresses regret for her actions indicates that she was lucid at the time. Besides, that spell doesn't make the target kill himself.  greatn posted:Sorcerers can cast whatever they want as long as they know the spell and have a slot left. But then again they know a lot less spells, so there's a good chance that Xykon doesn't know it. Of course sorcerers can get around that by using scrolls.
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May 8, 2007 23:10
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Factor_VIII posted:The fact she expresses regret for her actions indicates that she was lucid at the time. Besides, that spell doesn't make the target kill himself. She could have rolled act normally for that turn.
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farraday posted:She could have rolled act normally for that turn. Is there any chance she was one of the unaffected paladins and had to slaughter her insane comrades? edit whoops no she is right there with the swirly eyes and everything 
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May 9, 2007 00:38
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Kahrytes posted:Kay. quote:Would all of you stop bitching about the rubber loving ball? On the other hand, I don't play with min/maxers, so I guess I'm the wrong target for that kind of humor.
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May 9, 2007 02:06
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Xykon is a sorcerer. What kind of sorcerer, undead or otherwise, would walk into a room full of paladins and intend to fight them melee style? The bouncy ball is a very characteristic move of Xykon; creative, funny, and a real dick move. He could have killed all the paladins himself but he thought it would be funnier and more sadistic to make them kill each other.
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By the way, as I read everything from the beginning again, this was foreshadowed hard 35-36 strips ago. Maybe foreshadowed isn't the right word, how about.. spelled out completely. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0413.html Also this is the Second Time, that Xykon has actually made that face. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0376.html gothfae fucked around with this message at 05:14 on May 9, 2007 |
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May 9, 2007 04:33
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gothfae posted:
That would support the idea that its less a 'Oh poo poo' face and more a 'What the Hell' face. Although I guess skull expressions can only differentiate so much
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Robot Bastard posted:Your SUPER SLAM would work better if he hadn't done just that, only had a bunch of Paladins killing each other, instead of a bunch of Paladins getting killed by Xykon. No. See. He didn't. He drew a bunch of insane Paladins killing people easily. Whereas if Xykon went one by one or even three by three or loving ten by ten through them, that would either be three times as long, or be one really, really long update, that I wouldn't want to have to see any artist do. Xykon killing EVERY paladin rather than making them dispose of themselves while he walks towards the throne would take a decent amount of time. Or be REALLY boring. "Horrid wilting! Meteor swarm! Evard's Black Tentacles and ANOTHER meteor swarm!" robot bastard posted:On the other hand, I don't play with min/maxers, so I guess I'm the wrong target for that kind of humor. Aw, gently caress it. You're convinced you're right and I'm convinced you're a gently caress. I hope Xykon starts using the rubber ball trick a lot, to piss you off. Hey guys! Order of the Stick is a webcomic!
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greatn posted:Sorcerers can cast whatever they want as long as they know the spell and have a slot left. Good point. I'm still not used to the idea of non-wizard arcane casters.
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May 9, 2007 09:06
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Oh man, I was going through the archives, and somehow I missed, the first time around, the one where we see that the letter Miko was carrying back from the Dwarven Lands, and lost, was a letter inviting Durkon to return whenever he sees fit. Bloody hell. He doesn't get a break.
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Order of the Stick is the only truly good webcomic ever to me, and everyone who spends their time hating it for GAME MECHANICS REASONS makes me sad. I really do not understand how anyone who has read the series from beginning to end can possibly get upset whenever someone uses comedic techniques to accomplish something at least semi-serious (the extended "Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity" joke is a fine example there). It is abundantly obvious that Rich Burlew is an expert at maintaining continuity through the resolution of any plot holes or other seeming failings, often when you least expect it. It would not even surprise me if, sometime in the near future, there is some sort of reveal that makes the whole argument everyone had here seem slightly less important. Kind of like another level to the "oh man, ghost paladins, awesome" twist.
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http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0450.html New strip is up, proving once again that Belkar really is a awesome sexy shoeless god of war.
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 NEW STRIP UPand for all you people who complain it gets hammered, a thumbnail for you to click.  Oh, Belkar.  edit: Curse you, McCloud!
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Oh, that is just awesome! Belkar is always one to think outside the box!
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That first panel is a thing of beauty. It really is. Perfectly suggests the epicness of the battle while still being drawn with little circles.
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I wonder if doing this in a city would trigger the Mark of Justice.
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Women's Rights? posted:That first panel is a thing of beauty. It really is. Perfectly suggests the epicness of the battle while still being drawn with little circles. Is that the mystic theurge I see up on the castle near the smoke, laying waste to paladins? I think it is. How the gently caress does he get that kinda detail out of stick figures? I love this comic.
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You can also see Belkar in the foreground, on his pile of Hobgoblin corpses, and Redcloak and the Shadow Creature in the middle of the Hobgoblin Reserve. Edit: And the corpse of Roy. The guy does perspective on the eye-dots.
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I'd love to see a larger, like wall paper sized, copy of panal one. he works in illustrator so its doable, hell those might even be the original figures just zoomed waaay out.
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maltesh posted:You can also see Belkar in the foreground, on his pile of Hobgoblin corpses, and Redcloak and the Shadow Creature in the middle of the Hobgoblin Reserve. Looking at it closer you can also see two Xykon decoys. Not only that, but there's loving continuity on where Belkar is standing. Each of the remaining Xykon decoys are standing by him - one infront and one behind him. So it doesn't matter which way he's facing when he flips off the pile of corpses, he's going to land infront of a Xykon decoy. That's some attention to detail right there. God I love this comic. Women's Rights? fucked around with this message at 16:43 on May 9, 2007 |
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Quarex posted:Order of the Stick is the only truly good webcomic ever to me, and everyone who spends their time hating it for GAME MECHANICS REASONS makes me sad. I think the game mechanics facet is being overemphasized. Take today's comic. I'm not sure Belkar's method would work under rules. But I found it funny. On the other hand, a lot of people were expecting a good fight when Xykon entered the throne room and found a bunch of paladins waiting for him. Instead we got a bouncy ball. I didn't enjoy the comic, other people didn't enjoy the comic, a lot of people did enjoy the comic. Different strokes, let it die.
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Why is Belkar my favorite character? Oh, that's right.
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So why is that decoy such a big puss? I didn't think undead had the capacity to be like that.
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sakesniper posted:So why is that decoy such a big puss? I didn't think undead had the capacity to be like that. That's why. Samedi posted:I think the game mechanics facet is being overemphasized. Take today's comic. I'm not sure Belkar's method would work under rules. But I found it funny. On the other hand, a lot of people were expecting a good fight when Xykon entered the throne room and found a bunch of paladins waiting for him. Instead we got a bouncy ball. I didn't enjoy the comic, other people didn't enjoy the comic, a lot of people did enjoy the comic. Different strokes, let it die. And any rules lawyers who object get a castle dropped on their head. Nomenklatura fucked around with this message at 18:56 on May 9, 2007 |
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