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Ice To Meet You
Mar 5, 2007

I don't know if SCOTTY GOLDMAN wrote his own WWE.com show or the writers did, but it was god awful.

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oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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Lazy like a Fox posted:

Yes. You should actually watch him wrestle.

The rest of your post is you being stupid because you haven't seen any Colt Cabana matches. Everyone can tell you a good Cabana comedy match, but the one that proved to me that he can work all-around was his Chicago Street Fight with Homicide, from... poo poo, some ROH show in Chicago.

If your question is "is this guy good?" and you immediately follow with "I haven't seen any of his matches" the only answer you deserve is "go watch some god drat matches and make-up your own mind".

Someone woke up on the wrong side of Colt Cabana's bed this morning.

Lazy like a Fox
Jul 8, 2003

EKO SMASH!

oldpainless posted:

Someone woke up on the wrong side of Colt Cabana's bed this morning.

Us Jews gotta stick together.

Also, my grumpyness has nothing to do with it, you really could go watch some of his matches. All the ROH on HDNet episodes are on youtube, and between that and dailymotion you should be able to find a few of his other highlights (wrestling in WSX as Matt Classic, and anything in PWG are must-sees).

Free Market Gravy
Sep 17, 2005

Wazzu posted:

Who knows why he flopped in the WWE, since every promotion he went to (including OVW) he was quickly one of the most over people.

Because he's good at comedy matches and ROH-style technical wrestling.

Guess which of the above the WWE doesn't do and which one of the above they don't value?

Graic
Feb 2, 2008

Fella Man
Or he could have just used the wrestling questions thread to ask if Colt Cabana was any good.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Colt needs to take some lessons from Matt Classic, learn how to work drat it!

LightsGameraAction
Sep 4, 2006
1.) Why is Wrestlemania so far the only pay-per-view WWE is releasing on blu-ray if they went HD two years ago?

2.) Do any of the anthology sets have Chris Benoit edited out of them?

3.) What are the odds WWE will ever release anthology sets for WCW/ECW pay per views?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

LightsGameraAction posted:

1.) Why is Wrestlemania so far the only pay-per-view WWE is releasing on blu-ray if they went HD two years ago?

Blu-ray Disc is quite a bit more expensive per-unit to produce than a standard DVD. I would imagine WWE is waiting for the cost / benefit figures to make a bit more sense before putting everything on Blu-ray.

LightsGameraAction posted:

2.) Do any of the anthology sets have Chris Benoit edited out of them?

From Wikipedia:

quote:

Since the incident, no matches involving Benoit have been on any new DVD releases by WWE, with the exception of the Royal Rumble Anthology Vol. III and IV DVDs that were reissued in January 2008, and the SummerSlam Anthology Boxset Vol. III & IV, released in August 2008, over a year after his death. Footage of Benoit is also shown in the Triple H: King of Kings - There Is Only One DVD, Batista: I Walk Alone DVD where he is shown in the 2005 Royal Rumble, Nature Boy Ric Flair: The Definitive Collection DVD, where he is briefly shown in a Four Horsemen segment, as well as "Viva La Raza: The Legacy of Eddie Guerrero" DVD, where he is shown in The Radicals entrance video, as well as during an Eddie/Benoit feud recap video. These make them the only four DVD documentaries that WWE has released since his death that acknowledged his time with the company.

quote:

3.) What are the odds WWE will ever release anthology sets for WCW/ECW pay per views?

It's possible. They've already done the Essential Starrcade collection. ECW's PPV history was so spotty, though, that I really doubt that there's enough financial incentive to put together anthologies.

Timby fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Feb 2, 2010

Bikeage
Nov 10, 2009

LightsGameraAction posted:

1.) Why is Wrestlemania so far the only pay-per-view WWE is releasing on blu-ray if they went HD two years ago?

2.) Do any of the anthology sets have Chris Benoit edited out of them?

3.) What are the odds WWE will ever release anthology sets for WCW/ECW pay per views?

1) Royal Rumble 2010 is coming out on Blu-Ray next month at a $29.99 street price.
2) Not sure, someone else might know. EDIT: ^^^^^
3) They put out a "Starrcade: The Essential Collection" set last year, pretty sure it was a 3-discer. Nothing in the way of anthology box sets, but consider that for the hassle of blurring the scratch logo on WWF 1998-2002 they'd have to overdub a lot of music in both WCW and ECW for their entire runs.

Bikeage fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Feb 2, 2010

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005

Fun Shoe

Bikeage posted:

1) I believe last night's Rumble is coming out on Blu-Ray next month.

They said this for the 08 Rumble too :(

Graic
Feb 2, 2008

Fella Man

LightsGameraAction posted:

1.) Why is Wrestlemania so far the only pay-per-view WWE is releasing on blu-ray if they went HD two years ago?

I've seen blu-rays of last year's Rumble, SummerSlam, and Survivor Series. Plus WrestleMania's 24 and 25 obviously.

LightsGameraAction
Sep 4, 2006

Bikeage posted:

3) They put out a "Starrcade: The Essential Collection" set last year, pretty sure it was a 3-discer. Nothing in the way of anthology box sets, but consider that for the hassle of blurring the scratch logo on WWF 1998-2002 they'd have to overdub a lot of music in both WCW and ECW for their entire runs.

With a handful of exceptions didn't WCW use their own music, in which case WWE would own the songs now?

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
I realize this is somewhat of a backtrack, but you all would be surprised just how much some of the "comedy" wrestlers can fight. Santino has a lot of MMA training and legit fighting skill, and so does Colt Cabana. It's just that Santino and Colt are charismatically funny, which is a lot more of a rare commodity than another brawler.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

LightsGameraAction posted:

With a handful of exceptions didn't WCW use their own music, in which case WWE would own the songs now?
Nah. A lot of tracks like "Rockhouse", the nWo theme, still cost money to use. Sting used a Metallica song. Hogan used Voodoo Child. These are all replaced with dumb poo poo on DVDs.

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005

Fun Shoe

Graic posted:

I've seen blu-rays of last year's Rumble, SummerSlam, and Survivor Series.


Where, Hong Kong?

Bikeage
Nov 10, 2009
The RR '10 Blu-ray has placeholder pages on Amazon.ca and Wal-mart.com so it seems pretty likely to me, but maybe that's been the case before too.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

LividLiquid posted:

Nah. A lot of tracks like "Rockhouse", the nWo theme, still cost money to use. Sting used a Metallica song. Hogan used Voodoo Child. These are all replaced with dumb poo poo on DVDs.

Who owns the nWo theme?

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Captain Charisma posted:

Where, Hong Kong?


I believe they've been out on Blu-Ray for a while in the UK.

Hirams Bitch
Oct 24, 2008

BigRed0427eage posted:

Who owns the nWo theme?

WCW (and WWF to a lesser extent) was big on licensing public domain music. This is why you'd sometimes hear wrestling themes in commercials or on SportsCenter.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Rockhouse wasn't licensed, though. I think it was Jimmy Hart's? I don't know. If it were licensed, they wouldn't have replaced it with dogshit on the Wrestlemania DVDs.

George Kaplan
Mar 12, 2006

Was any kayfabe reason given as to why we didn't see DX vs Punk/Gallows at the Rumble? Weren't they announced as #1 contenders?

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...

Captain Strange posted:

Was any kayfabe reason given as to why we didn't see DX vs Punk/Gallows at the Rumble? Weren't they announced as #1 contenders?

It was supposed to be on Smackdown but they were just like 'yeah lets do some other matches instead!' and now here we are.

apsouthern
May 24, 2007

Chain Gang Soldier

Capsaicin posted:

Who is doing the Shooting Star Styles Clash in this video around 1:45ish?

Looks like a guy that wrestle's for CZW sometimes called Spiral BKNY (stupid loving name I know) - also featured in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1_qH9yNwoo

Bad Wolf
Apr 7, 2007
Without evil there could be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometime !

sportsgenius86 posted:

I believe they've been out on Blu-Ray for a while in the UK.

Yup. Summerslam, Survivor series (to be released) and Royal Rumble, all '09.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dblu-ray&field-keywords=wwe

Dr. Ass
Apr 21, 2008

Lazy like a Fox posted:

Us Jews gotta stick together.

Also, my grumpyness has nothing to do with it, you really could go watch some of his matches. All the ROH on HDNet episodes are on youtube, and between that and dailymotion you should be able to find a few of his other highlights (wrestling in WSX as Matt Classic, and anything in PWG are must-sees).

You basically flipped over the word "any". The dude asked if Cabana was good, because the full extent of his knowledge of the guy was his ill-fated run in WWE. You hounded on him for what was essentially a "Hey, I want to know more about this guy, here's what I know and what I want to" post and you answered with "Well you're dumb, find it yourself and find out".

Bearnt!
Feb 6, 2004

No onions, no onions
With Miz & MVP facing each other at the Rumble and then each being in the actual Rumble match itself it got me thinking what other times has this happened?

I know Piper won the IC title from The Mountie in 1992 and then entered the Rumble. I also recall Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, Boss Man and Ken Shamrock in 1999 being in single's title matches and then entering only because I was at that show which was probably the worst Royal Rumble ever. Has it happened any other times?

Also when was the last time Raw got bumped for the Westminster Dog Show/Tennis/something else? And why did they do this in the first place when Raw is the longest running weekly episodic show in history!

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Lazy like a Fox posted:

Yes. You should actually watch him wrestle.

The rest of your post is you being stupid because you haven't seen any Colt Cabana matches. Everyone can tell you a good Cabana comedy match, but the one that proved to me that he can work all-around was his Chicago Street Fight with Homicide, from... poo poo, some ROH show in Chicago.

If your question is "is this guy good?" and you immediately follow with "I haven't seen any of his matches" the only answer you deserve is "go watch some god drat matches and make-up your own mind".

i'm probably one of the biggest roh/colt cabana fans on this forum, but you kind of came off like a dick here.

Curtis of Nigeria
Jan 9, 2009

CSammich posted:

WCW (and WWF to a lesser extent) was big on licensing public domain music. This is why you'd sometimes hear wrestling themes in commercials or on SportsCenter.

Or PORN, in the case of NWO's theme.

Has the WWE ever tried to release DVDs of raw by season? you know, 96-97 season 1a. for like 80 bucks. Because I would buy every attitude era Raw.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Curtis of Nigeria posted:

Or PORN, in the case of NWO's theme.

Foley has also said that his Cactus Jack theme in WWF was a porno theme.

Karmine
Oct 23, 2003

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

Foley has also said that his Cactus Jack theme in WWF was a porno theme.

Is that why they overdub his Mr. Bang Bang WCW theme on 24/7?

Because that theme sucks and I hate hearing it.

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

Bearnt! posted:

With Miz & MVP facing each other at the Rumble and then each being in the actual Rumble match itself it got me thinking what other times has this happened?

Angle/Michaels 2005.

Bearnt!
Feb 6, 2004

No onions, no onions
Interesting, Edge from 2005 as well after defeating Michaels.

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'
I think Goldust and HHH both appeared in the '97 Rumble, after their match earlier in the night. Oftentimes they've had one guy go over in a match, only to have his opponent toss him in the Rumble later for some measure of revenge.

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

Bearnt! posted:

Interesting, Edge from 2005 as well after defeating Michaels.

Lesnar in 03 as well, but that was part of the match stip.

Schlitzkrieg Bop
Sep 19, 2005

Bearnt! posted:

With Miz & MVP facing each other at the Rumble and then each being in the actual Rumble match itself it got me thinking what other times has this happened?

I know Piper won the IC title from The Mountie in 1992 and then entered the Rumble. I also recall Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, Boss Man and Ken Shamrock in 1999 being in single's title matches and then entering only because I was at that show which was probably the worst Royal Rumble ever. Has it happened any other times?

Bret Hart lost the tag title match at the 1994 Rumble (where Owen turned on him), and then went on to co-win the Rumble later that night. Also, looking up that Rumble, Bam Bam Bigelow and Tatanka had a match on the card and then both were in the Rumble too.

donchez
Apr 24, 2008

Why? Because fuck you, that's why :c00lbert:

Deal with it.

Bearnt! posted:

With Miz & MVP facing each other at the Rumble and then each being in the actual Rumble match itself it got me thinking what other times has this happened?


The Rock and Ken Shamrock had an IC title match at the '98 Rumble and not only did both enter the rumble but The Rock lasted around 50 minutes entering at number 4 and getting eliminated by Austin at the end.

ColeM
Dec 23, 2007
New User Alert!

donchez posted:

The Rock and Ken Shamrock had an IC title match at the '98 Rumble and not only did both enter the rumble but The Rock lasted around 50 minutes entering at number 4 and getting eliminated by Austin at the end.

Speaking of which, why did Ken leave the WWE?

Karmine
Oct 23, 2003

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

ColeM posted:

Speaking of which, why did Ken leave the WWE?

My immediate guess is that he wanted to go back to MMA.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I'm pretty sure that Chyna and Jericho had a match and later that night appeared in a Rumble as well.

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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Karmine posted:

My immediate guess is that he wanted to go back to MMA.

Basically. He knew his window for doing MMA was closing. He also knew PRIDE was paying well in Japan and didn't want to do the WWE schedule much longer. So he left and went to Japan announced he was going to be fighting for PRIDE in a Superfight at the second show of the 2000 GP.

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