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lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Karter705 posted:

Victarion hasn't appeared in the series thus far, though.

You forgot about him tearing through eight dudes like they were nothing, wearing full plate at sea, and stopping a man's sword with his hand?

lobotomy molo fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Jun 14, 2010

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Anders
Nov 8, 2004

I'd rather score...

... but I'll grind it good for you
^^^^^^^^^

It's still a read-along thread, and Victarion doesn't appear for another two books or so.

Contra Calculus
Nov 6, 2009

Gravy Boat 2k
Speaking of the badasses in this series, did anyone else think Ser Waymar Royce from the prologue of A Game of Thrones was pretty badass? He didn't do much except have his sword broken and then turned into a wight which strangled a guy named Will, but I still thought he was pretty badass for at least trying to take on twelve of the Others at the same time.
I have decided to give him the title of Boba Fett of ASOIF.

edit: by the way, does anyone know of a videogame that has a similar world or atmosphere to Westeros or at least ASOIF in general?

edit edit: VVVVVV I do have Dragon Age Origins and have yet to play as a human so maybe that's something I'll get on. Also quite a few people have suggested I try out Mount and Blade so I will definitely be getting it.

Contra Calculus fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jun 14, 2010

Jorenko
Jun 6, 2004

I think you're just mad 'cause you're single.

Contra Calculus posted:

Speaking of the badasses in this series, did anyone else think Ser Waymar Royce from the prologue of A Game of Thrones was pretty badass. He didn't do much except have his sword broken and then turned into a wight which strangled a guy named Will, but I still thought he was pretty badass for at least trying to take on twelve of the Others at the same time.
I have decided to give him the title of Boba Fett of ASOIF.

edit: by the way, does anyone know of a videogame that has a similar world or atmosphere to Westeros or at least ASOIF in general?

Mount & Blade might qualify, and there's actually even an ASoIaF mod for an ancient version of the game; it's a single-player medieval combat RPG, including large battles where you can command a fairly huge large army in field battles, and on both sides of sieges. Not much in the way of court intrigue, but it's pretty fun.

Badgers Nadgers
Aug 7, 2006

Contra Calculus posted:

edit: by the way, does anyone know of a videogame that has a similar world or atmosphere to Westeros or at least ASOIF in general?

Dragon Age: Origins cites ASOIAF as one of its influences, and there are certainly a few similarities between the game and the books - The Night's Watch and The Grey Wardens being one. The human noble "origin" struck me as very much in the GRRM style of things.

Twoiism
Sep 10, 2008

Ever present.

Badgers Nadgers posted:

Dragon Age: Origins cites ASOIAF as one of its influences, and there are certainly a few similarities between the game and the books - The Night's Watch and The Grey Wardens being one. The human noble "origin" struck me as very much in the GRRM style of things.

There's also lots of rape. And consentual sex if that's your thing.

Karter705
Sep 20, 2004
I HAD TO SPEND $10 TO TELL THIS DUDE HIS IDEAS ABOUT DOG BREEDING ARE RETARDED BECAUSE ~*HUG ISLAND*~

Vanadium posted:

Do the guys on the Wall not mostly hang around there on the off chance that some wildlings are stupid enough to throw pebbles at the Wall? It does not seem to me that they get into fights all that often, and they are not exactly the elite of the realm to begin with.

I thought a lot of the Rangers went off on ranges north of the wall pretty often and that's why (mild spoilers) many of the wildlings know who the prominent rangers are, like Quorin Halfhand, etc

Zombie Lincoln posted:

mercernaries aren't constantly fighting for their lives either, since it's a relatively peaceful time in the realm.
That's a good point.

Fly Molo posted:

You forgot about him tearing through eight dudes like they were nothing, wearing full plate at sea, and stopping a man's sword with his hand?

This doesn't happen in GoT, which is as far as this thread is.

Jorenko posted:

Mount & Blade might qualify, and there's actually even an ASoIaF mod for an ancient version of the game; it's a single-player medieval combat RPG, including large battles where you can command a fairly huge large army in field battles, and on both sides of sieges. Not much in the way of court intrigue, but it's pretty fun.

I am still waiting for them to port this to the new version of Mount & Blade. It is going about as well as DwD.

Karter705 fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jun 13, 2010

The Illusive Man
Mar 27, 2008

~savior of yoomanity~
Zombie Lincoln, were you going to continue doing recaps for each week like your awesome one a couple weeks ago? I'm guessing the lack of any further ones has been due to the scheduling confusion of earlier, but the last one you did a few pages ago was fantastic.

Zombie Lincoln
Sep 7, 2006
The master of all things GRRM!

"His manhood glistened wetly..."
That's my intention! You are correct, left a week gap, since I got a little ahead.

Also, the teaser is up for HBO's Game of Thrones!

http://www.hbo.com/#/game-of-thrones

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

Just finished the second book, now waiting for the first half of the third book to arrive. But drat this guy knows how to play with your emotions. There were a couple of chapters there where I almost put the book down and walked away for a bit. The stuff with Theon, Bran and Rickon.

Paddyo
Aug 3, 2007
All of this "who is the toughest" conjecture is going to look pretty silly once we get to ASoS and Strong Belwas blows everyone out of the water.

therapy
Jun 12, 2001

Living the dream

Paddyo posted:

All of this "who is the toughest" conjecture is going to look pretty silly once we get to ASoS and Strong Belwas blows everyone out of the water.

Strong Belwas eats a pound of bacon as a breakfast appetizer and thirty fried hen's eggs after each battle.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

therapy posted:

Strong Belwas eats a pound of bacon as a breakfast appetizer and thirty fried hen's eggs after each battle.

What he does to a plate of lemoncakes is the closest he can ever get to rape.

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




So I'm reading the first Cat chapter of the week and what the gently caress Lysa the kid is six years old put your titty away for fucks sake :gonk:

Dendra
May 3, 2009

Paper Lion posted:

So I'm reading the first Cat chapter of the week and what the gently caress Lysa the kid is six years old put your titty away for fucks sake :gonk:

Oh god, I was so creeped out by that for some reason. Possibly because every other comparable character is portrayed as so independent and resolute.

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


Actually, I'm gonna have to say that the best fighter in the land is probably Syrio.

bengraven
Sep 17, 2009

by VideoGames

Zombie Lincoln posted:

That's my intention! You are correct, left a week gap, since I got a little ahead.

Also, the teaser is up for HBO's Game of Thrones!

http://www.hbo.com/#/game-of-thrones

Note to readers, this trailer spoils nothing.

Also: Ned is NOT that sinister, ignore the "mwahahaha" moment.

The Illusive Man
Mar 27, 2008

~savior of yoomanity~

Paper Lion posted:

So I'm reading the first Cat chapter of the week and what the gently caress Lysa the kid is six years old put your titty away for fucks sake :gonk:

Yeah I know, the awesomeness of the Eyrie was kind of put askew by that. Also I just started reading the second book and oh god Shireen Baratheon betrothed to Robert Arryn? :smithicide:

bengraven
Sep 17, 2009

by VideoGames

Nerd Watch posted:

Yeah I know, the awesomeness of the Eyrie was kind of put askew by that. Also I just started reading the second book and oh god Shireen Baratheon betrothed to Robert Arryn? :smithicide:

They would make some really feeble, retarded kids.

Zombie Lincoln
Sep 7, 2006
The master of all things GRRM!

"His manhood glistened wetly..."
:siren::siren::siren: Week 3 Recap! :siren::siren::siren:

Dany 3: As Dany further adapts to the Dothraki lifestyle, she finds herself drifting apart from her rigid brother Viserys; Dany acknowledges that she is pregnant.
  • Saddle sore from riding all day (... and being ridden all night :quagmire: ).
  • After a brief bout of depression and suicidal thoughts, Dany accepts her life and starts going native...
  • ... unlike her brother, who is about to get violent with Dany when Jhogo whips him around the neck. Dany strips him of his horse, forcing him to walk. This is a huge insult in Dothraki culture.
  • Viserys should change his personal slogan from a demanding, "Don't wake the dragon!" to a whimpering, "Don't walk the dragon!"
  • Dragon eggs warming up.
  • 14 year old Dany gets pregnant. :pedo:

Bran 4: Bran listens to Old Nan recount a tale about the Others when Tyrion Lannister returns to Winterfell, bearing a gift for the crippled boy.
  • Old Nan is apparently kin to Hodor (Hodor!)
  • Robb has been putting on his Lord face, as the Stark in Winterfell.
  • Old Nan tells stories. The Wall & Winterfell - raised by Stark ancestor Brandon the Builder. The Others - Thousands of years ago the harshest winter ever known came, and after a generation of cold the Others swept through Westeros until "the last hero" enlisted the aid of the children of the forest.
  • Bran, being paralyzed, uses a popular method of transportation amongst the privileged: Enormous Retards.
  • Tyrion drops by, and despite being rudely received makes good on his promise to Jon, and helps Bran by handing over designs to a special saddle Bran can use to ride Hodor a horse. :horse:

Ned 5: Eddard interviews Grand Maester Pycelle about the death of Jon Arryn; later, Littlefinger informs Eddard about people who might have additional information, including Jon Arryn's squire.
  • Investigating Jon Arryn's death, Eddard learns that Jon became ill after dropping by to collect a book on the genealogies of the Great Houses.
  • Grand Maester Pycelle sent Arryn's personal Maester, Colemon, away for fear that purging his stomach would kill him.
  • "The seed is strong." :gizz:
  • Poison is a woman's weapon. :wink:
  • Cersei and her children were visiting Casterly Rock at the time.
  • Petyr finds that there are four member's of Jon's household still around after Jon's wife, Lysa, fled to the Eyrie.
  • Eddard: "My bad bro, should have trusted you."
  • Petyr: "Psyyyyyyche!" :iceburn:

Jon 4: Samwell Tarly, a coward forced to join the Night's Watch by his father, arrives at the Wall; Jon convinces the trainees to help Sam avoid mistreatment at the hands of Ser Alliser Thorne.
  • Jon has been taking charge of the new recruits, training them rather than beating the living poo poo out of them.
  • Fat Samwisewell GamgeeTarly joins the group of misfits, and Ser Alliser instructs the recruits to gently caress him up old school, until Jon , followed by Pyp and Grenn, stand up for him.
  • Life at Castle Black: Training and varied chores.
  • Benjen is still missing.
  • Sam tells Jon the hosed up story of how his father, Lord Randyll, disinherited him out of disgust, forcing him to join the Night's Watch to clear the way for his brother, Dickon, to become heir.
  • Dareon's voice is honey poured over thunder.
  • Toad's voice is piss poured over a fart.

Ned 6: Eddard's investigation leads him to Gendry, a boy apprenticed to an armorer; Jon Arryn and Stannis Baratheon had previously visited the boy, who, as Eddard discovers, is an unwitting bastard of King Robert.
  • Everyone's coming into town for the Royal Rumble, aka, The Tournament of the Hand.
  • Browsing The Lineages and Histories of the Great Houses of the Seven Kingdoms, he checks out the entry on Lannister: Lann the Clever, a trickster from the Age of Heroes, supposedly tricked House Casterly out of Casterly Rock, and stole gold from the sun to brighten his hair.:fyadride:
  • Interviews with Arryn's old servants yielded up that Stannis Baratheon, and Jon had visited an armorer, and a brothel.
  • Intro to the Lightning Lord, Beric Dondarrion, arrived to take part in the tournament.
  • Turns out Stannis and Jon were visiting the armorer's apprentice, Gendry. Turns out Gendry's mom's baby-daddy was King Robert, evidenced by Gendry being his spitting image.
  • Robert has a lot of bastards, so why did Jon and Stannis care... ?

Catelyn 5: Close to her home in Riverrun, Catelyn decides to spend the night at an inn; Tyrion Lannister arrives at the same inn shortly after, prompting Cat to accuse him of attempted murder and take him captive.
  • She was pretty clever in how she accomplished this, but still.
  • #CatelynIdeas

Sansa 2: Sansa attends the Hand's tournament, where she witnesses the death of a young knight during a joust with Gregor Clegane; after the night's feast, Sandor Clegane escorts Sansa back to the Red Keep.

  • GREGOR flat out kills a rival while jousting. Convenient, as that's just one of the men Eddard was after to talk to.
  • Loras, the Knight of Flowers, struts around in his fabulous armor, with a precious cloak of roses. He gives different pretty girls white roses after every victory, and upon his final victory gives a red rose to Sansa.

  • Later, Joffrey sends his "dog" to escort Sansa back to her room. Sandor :woof: drunkenly vents his disdain for knights and their vows. He also lets her know just how he lost half his face to burns: When a young child, he took one of GREGOR's cast aside toys. GREGOR reacted by shoving his face onto a burning brazier.:laugh:


Ned 7: Eddard dissuades the king from participating in the melee; Varys later reveals that Cersei intended to have Robert murdered during the event in an "accident;" Varys also confirms that Jon Arryn was poisoned by the knight who died the previous day.
  • Though drunk when Robert decided he wanted to do it, he's as :black101: as ever, and wants to enter the grand melee. Of course, he can't fit into his armor, so that's that.
  • Eddard is troubled by Robert's squires both being Lannisters.
  • Robert has a midlife crisis.
  • Reflections on how it was Gregor who dashed Prince Rhaegar's infant son, Aegon, against a wall, and raped and killed his wife, Elia.

  • Loras uses a mare in heat to make GREGOR's stallion wild and unruly. Allowing "expert jouster" Loras to unseat The Mountain.
  • GREGOR SMASH!
  • Sandor stops GREGOR's rampage, and a command from the King sends GREGOR storming off.
  • Thoros of Myr wins the grand melee. He also likes to light his swords aflame with wildfire for dramatic effect.

  • Later, Eddard muses on what he's been learning. Why were Stannis and Jon so interested in Robert's many bastards? We've learned of Gendry, and now we hear of a seventeen year old girl in the Vale, and an acknowledged bastard being raised at Storm's End, Renly's keep.
  • Varys shows off his costuming skills. Clues Ned in that Robert would have been killed during the melee had Eddard not help talk him out of it. Also reveals that Arryn was killed by The Tears of Lys, and suggests that it was Ser Hugh, the recently impaled knight who squired for Jon. Whelp.

Tyrion 4: Catelyn Tully is bringing Tyrion to the Eyrie, the residence of her sister Lysa; accompanying them on the dangerous path are various knights and sell-swords and a singer; Tyrion finds a flaw in Littlefinger's story about the dagger.
  • Catelyn pulls a fast one, having exclaimed they were headed to Winterfell, but instead taking the high road to the Vale of Arryn.
  • Tyrion does not like being one-upped.
  • Apparently Petyr has been bragging about taking Catelyn's "Maidenhead". Catelyn disagrees.
  • Tyrion "never bets against his family," casting doubt onto Petyr's tale that he Tyrion won the dagger after having bet against Jaime.


Next Week: Week 4
Arya 3
Ned 8
Catelyn 6
Ned 9
Dany 4
Bran 5
Tyrion 5
Ned 10
Catelyn 7
Jon 5

Previous: Week 2

Zombie Lincoln fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jun 21, 2010

Vanadium
Jan 8, 2005

Zombie Lincoln posted:

Dany 3

One book later, it sure is fun to follow chapter after chapter of this plotline that is entirely unconnected to the rest of what is going on.

Nice recap, there is a bunch of details that I missed.

Dessert Rose
May 17, 2004

awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...
The whole bastard-research plot went way over my head at first. I didn't pick up on what exactly was going on when Bran got tossed off the roof, so it took until the Big Reveal for me to realize what was going on. And now it just seems obvious.

Viola the Mad
Feb 13, 2010
This is my second reread, and I gotta say, I should have done this long ago. It's fascinating to figure out what was planned, what was coincidence but was worked into someone's plan anyway, and what was plain coincidence.

I'm sure Jon Arryn was purposely killed just when he had made his very important discovery. I think his squire's death is coincidence because the Mountain That Rapes is a vicious rear end in a top hat who needs to be put down.

Twoiism
Sep 10, 2008

Ever present.

Viola the Mad posted:

This is my second reread, and I gotta say, I should have done this long ago. It's fascinating to figure out what was planned, what was coincidence but was worked into someone's plan anyway, and what was plain coincidence.

I'm sure Jon Arryn was purposely killed just when he had made his very important discovery. I think his squire's death is coincidence because the Mountain That Rapes is a vicious rear end in a top hat who needs to be put down.

It took you till your second re-read to figure that out?

Zombie Lincoln
Sep 7, 2006
The master of all things GRRM!

"His manhood glistened wetly..."

Viola the Mad posted:

This is my second reread, and I gotta say, I should have done this long ago. It's fascinating to figure out what was planned, what was coincidence but was worked into someone's plan anyway, and what was plain coincidence.

I'm sure Jon Arryn was purposely killed just when he had made his very important discovery. I think his squire's death is coincidence because the Mountain That Rapes is a vicious rear end in a top hat who needs to be put down.

The Mountain killing Ser Hugh during the joust might be coincidence, or just as Ned wonders in that chapter... was it a Lannister order? Bear in mind, Sandor thought his brother capable of putting that lance wherever he wanted, but his thoughts on motivation are different than Ned's thoughts on the subject.

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




Are wild predictions allowed from first time readers in this thread? I have one I want to make about Jon Arryn looking for bastards but I also don't wanna get banned for doing it.

Zombie Lincoln
Sep 7, 2006
The master of all things GRRM!

"His manhood glistened wetly..."

Paper Lion posted:

Are wild predictions allowed from first time readers in this thread? I have one I want to make about Jon Arryn looking for bastards but I also don't wanna get banned for doing it.

Genuine discussion is encouraged! If you are uncomfortable, or don't want to spoil what you think may be something to come, you can always throw it under some spoiler tags and label it as speculation.

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




Well, I haven't been spoiled much about these books, only that Sean Bean's reputation for dying will be upheld come 2011 >.> so otherwise this is based purely off what I have read, but I think Jon is looking at bastards because Joffrey an possibly the other kids are actually Jaime's, what with the whole twin loving thing we saw in the tower, so he was seeking some form of rightful heir when he got assassinated to allow the Lannisters full access to the throne.

Also gently caress that shady gay guy, Tyrion is so innocent, he never bets against his family :(

Zombie Lincoln
Sep 7, 2006
The master of all things GRRM!

"His manhood glistened wetly..."

Paper Lion posted:

Well, I haven't been spoiled much about these books, only that Sean Bean's reputation for dying will be upheld come 2011 >.> so otherwise this is based purely off what I have read, but I think Jon is looking at bastards because Joffrey an possibly the other kids are actually Jaime's, what with the whole twin loving thing we saw in the tower, so he was seeking some form of rightful heir when he got assassinated to allow the Lannisters full access to the throne.

Also gently caress that shady gay guy, Tyrion is so innocent, he never bets against his family :(

Interesting speculation, though keep in mind that it would be unnecessary to look for an heir in one of Robert's bastards, as the right of succession would pass to one of Robert's brothers.

Checking out Robert's bastards must yield something else. :D

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




Well, his brothers aren't anything a little Tears of Lys couldn't fix...

Also gently caress yeah Bronn gonna murder for Tyrion because he's a pimp and pimps stick together.

Where does come from if everyone in the bad thread has it? :confused:

Mex
Nov 23, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Viconia posted:

I'm going to give a month for each book.

Discussion during the book should have spoiler tags for the most part. Once each book is done the spoiler tags won't matter, EXCEPT for major areas.

E.g. "Remember when Caitlin went.. " is not a spoiler, but ned dies and despite us finishing book 1 and him dyign in whatever book it is, it is something that can spoil things for people if they get into the books late.

If you do not comply with the no spoiler policy - YOU WILL BE BANNED. I don't care how Assholey, douchebaggy type wildcards readers have to be, if you want to keep kicking new readers out and not letting them enjoy the book - go back to the bad thread.

But me? I want to read the book. I've heard you guys rant and rave about it and I'm dying to see what it's like. For what ti's worth, I don't like his writing style so far but I'm getting through it "and this happened and then they did this, and then tha thappened, and then the sword dropped". It's like, god, shut up!

I don't know what you did or if Opera doesn't process "spoiler" tags correctly, but the spoiler you posted was in black background and white letters, ie not hidden at all, and I just read it.

Other than banning yourself, can you confirm if that was just an example spoiler or is that true?

Zombie Lincoln
Sep 7, 2006
The master of all things GRRM!

"His manhood glistened wetly..."

Paper Lion posted:

Well, his brothers aren't anything a little Tears of Lys couldn't fix...

Also gently caress yeah Bronn gonna murder for Tyrion because he's a pimp and pimps stick together.

Where does come from if everyone in the bad thread has it? :confused:

The author, GRRM, hasn't been very timely with the release of this next book. Aside from going on at length in his blogs about football, or this, or that... it seemed the only work he was doing was editing and releasing stories in the shared universe of "Wild Cards".

In a fit of self loathing, we collectively saw it fit to brand ourselves with such a tag.


Mex posted:

I don't know what you did or if Opera doesn't process "spoiler" tags correctly, but the spoiler you posted was in black background and white letters, ie not hidden at all, and I just read it.

Other than banning yourself, can you confirm if that was just an example spoiler or is that true?

Spoiler tags are black text on black background, which turn white when you hover over them - and that's how what you quoted appears to be behaving. Opera may not have processed them correctly. I wouldn't sweat what you read. Just avoid spoilers - there's plenty of stuff that goes on in these books to keep you happy.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Mex posted:

I don't know what you did or if Opera doesn't process "spoiler" tags correctly, but the spoiler you posted was in black background and white letters, ie not hidden at all, and I just read it.

Other than banning yourself, can you confirm if that was just an example spoiler or is that true?

If you have some anti-script plugin running or you've disabled a fuckload of scripting inside opera, that is what caused it.

Firefox does the same thing if you're running a script blocker.

Mex
Nov 23, 2004

by Fistgrrl
Ok, thanks, carry on, I'll use Chrome now =)

Kneel Before Zog
Jan 16, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
How different is it for people to be living in the Free Cities compared to Westeros? With war being waged Im presuming quite frequently ,at least ever 20 years or so, it would be interesting if the Free Cities were like a modern day European Union nation of today. More advanced politically with a much more peaceful climate while Westeros is an example of what Europe was way back when with all its infighting between monarchs.Do the books ever follow plot lines inside of the Free Cities?

Nebalebadingdong
Jun 30, 2005

i made a video game.
why not give it a try!?
A part of the story eventually winds up in the Free Cities. We're supposed to see more of the Free Cities in later books.

The Illusive Man
Mar 27, 2008

~savior of yoomanity~

Nebalebadingdong posted:

A part of the story eventually winds up in the Free Cities. We're supposed to see more of the Free Cities in later books.

Including an actual map of the Free Cities in ADWD! :downs:

Astfgl
Aug 31, 2001

Kneel Before Zog posted:

How different is it for people to be living in the Free Cities compared to Westeros?

Free cities aren't more technologically advanced, but culturally they appear totally different to Westeros. They have way more of a Mediterranean vibe, with lots of shades of Rome and Venice. There also seems to be a less rigid class system in place, with a lot of people who would be "smallfolk" in Westeros just being ordinary tradesmen and craftsmen and living out their lives. Seems to be less of a monarchy and more of an oligarchy (with people like Illyrio holding positions of limited, regional power that don't seem hereditary).

But I could be wrong about a lot of that.

Nerd Watch posted:

Including an actual map of the Free Cities in ADWD! :downs:

Real fans make their own.

All my copies of ASOIAF have map sections that have been heavily annotated.

Kneel Before Zog
Jan 16, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Okay just finished AGoT. How good is the next book as compared to the first?

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Nebalebadingdong
Jun 30, 2005

i made a video game.
why not give it a try!?

Kneel Before Zog posted:

Okay just finished AGoT. How good is the next book as compared to the first?

Its better, and the book after is awesome possum. Did you like the first one? If not you probably won't like the rest.

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