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I just listened to The Great Annihilator (song not the album) by Swans and liked it. I've heard good things about the band and am wondering what albums I should check out, keeping in mind that I'm not a fan of industrial or no-wave. I guess I'd like to know what their most post-punk sounding albums are.
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I asked this a few months ago and never got an answer, but where exactly should I start with Ben Harper? He's got so many different albums I have no idea which one is the best out of all of them so I need some help here. 
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disporak posted:I just listened to The Great Annihilator (song not the album) by Swans and liked it. I've heard good things about the band and am wondering what albums I should check out, keeping in mind that I'm not a fan of industrial or no-wave. I guess I'd like to know what their most post-punk sounding albums are. I would also suggest maybe trying Michael Gira's, who is the singer of Swans, other band The Angels of Light, starting with We Are Him or New Mother. qrj fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Jul 11, 2010 |
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I'm gonna disagree with everyone  and recomend Goo as a good starting point, I think it flows better than any album they've done since.Or, just listen to "The Diamond Sea" over and over again until you realize that it's pure perfection.
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Jul 13, 2010 05:22
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Not so much an artist but a genre. I've been a Tom Waits fan for a long time and recently got really into That 1 Guy and was wondering what else is there that has that awesome...je ne sais that's really prevalent with the later Waits stuff-a good chunk of his post Rain Dogs stuff. The really experimental stuff. I've listened casually to Zappa and didn't particularly care for it. Same for Ornette Colman and later Miles Davis. Basically I want progressive stuff that's about exploring what we can do with music but something that's not too too outside the box.
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AA is for Quitters posted:Not so much an artist but a genre. I've been a Tom Waits fan for a long time and recently got really into That 1 Guy and was wondering what else is there that has that awesome...je ne sais that's really prevalent with the later Waits stuff-a good chunk of his post Rain Dogs stuff. The really experimental stuff. Residents. Eskimo.
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Jul 13, 2010 11:32
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I loved their songs on the Brutal Legend soundtrack, where should I start with Manowar?
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SMP posted:I loved their songs on the Brutal Legend soundtrack, where should I start with Manowar? Start at the start with Battle Hymns and move forward until you get to about Sign of the Hammer. From there they switch to a much more pop-rock style, but Kings of Metal still has some good songs. Don't think about touching anything after Triumph of Steel. If you prefer a well-produced, easier listen then Kings of Metal might be the place to start and you can move to the earlier records from there.
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Jul 19, 2010 23:41
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How about The Guess Who, The Crystal Method, and The New Pornographers?
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Jul 20, 2010 06:27
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ProperCoochie posted:The New Pornographers? Any of their first three albums is a great starting place. Some would argue that Mass Romantic would be the best place, but I have a tendency to lean towards Twin Cinema. It sounds more polished and always felt more balanced than anything else in their catalog.
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I know next to nothing about The Beach Boys. Having listened to Pet Sounds, what else in their catalogue ought I to check out? Is there anything that should be avoided?
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Falls Down Stairs posted:I know next to nothing about The Beach Boys. Having listened to Pet Sounds, what else in their catalogue ought I to check out? Is there anything that should be avoided? In general, the breakdown of the band's work is as follows: Pre-Pet Sounds: Tons of great singles and some good album tracks weighed down by a lot of filler. The Beach Boys Today! is the only truly consistent album from this period; otherwise, you can get a majority of the highlights from a combination of the compilations Sounds of Summer and The Warmth of the Sun. Post-Pet Sounds to the early 70s: Possibly the band's most creatively fertile period. Everything the band released during this period is worth listening to in some way or another, with clear highlights (for me) being Friends, Sunflower, Surf's Up, and Holland, with the latter serving as a sort of cut-off point. Mid-70s onward: Absolute garbage. Mike Love took over the band completely and turned them into a rinky-dink nostalgia act. Almost everything from this period should be avoided, with the possible exception of The Beach Boys Love You, though fans argue about the quality of that one (I like it). Any songs written by Dennis Wilson during this period also tend to be pretty great, but they also happen to be stuck on pretty awful albums, so you might just want to get his solo album Pacific Ocean Blue and not bother with the material he released with the Beach Boys at that time. Of course, one thing I've learned about the Beach Boys fandom is that few people seem to agree on much of anything (well, other than the stuff starting from the mid-70s being trash), so your mileage may vary. At any rate, skipping the wall of words, I'd personally say that the best places to go after Pet Sounds would be either The Beach Boys Today! or Sunflower. Ikari Worrier fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Jul 28, 2010 |
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Jul 28, 2010 09:51
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I just overheard my dad listening to Archive, and liked it. I'm a fan of trip hop in general, but never got around to listening to them. Which albums are the best?
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As somebody coming into new wave from the punk rock side of the equation, I've heard and enjoyed Devo, Talking Heads, and Cars. Where should I start with the Police?
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Jul 30, 2010 20:34
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Red Rogue posted:As somebody coming into new wave from the punk rock side of the equation, I've heard and enjoyed Devo, Talking Heads, and Cars. Where should I start with the Police? I'd say start with Zenyattą Mondatta. It really shows off the band at the height of being a tightly rehearsed unit and for my money it's their most consistent album. I wouldn't recommend starting with Syncronicity, though people told me to. It has a few well known songs on it but it doesn't really represent the band's "usual" style very well and I find it to be very inconsistent, style and quality-wise.
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Red Rogue posted:As somebody coming into new wave from the punk rock side of the equation, I've heard and enjoyed Devo, Talking Heads, and Cars. Where should I start with the Police? As a caveat, I'm NOT a fan of the Police. My fiance is, and most of my friends are. As such, I've been slowly, steadily exposed to them over the years. I respect them, but I doubt my feelings for the band will ever go past respect. However, when I did start coming into the new wave bands back in college (not necessarily the Police then), I was also coming into new wave bands from more a less a punk side of the equation. As such, while I can't disagree with Zenyattą Mondatta (and I'm assuming Rubber Biscuit has much more knowledge of the band than I do), if we are taking a car trip and my fiance wants to grab a Police album, I've always tried my best to make sure she grabs Reggatta de Blanc. I know it isn't their most loved album, but I think it holds up best for someone like me who has little to no affection for the "fan favorite" songs (a definition based on the songs they played, and the reaction of the crowd, from one of their recent reunion shows). Edit: I definitely agree with Rubber Biscuit, though, about not starting with Synchronicity. Voodoofly fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jul 30, 2010 |
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I'm kinda starting to get into punk, and I've got some Ramones, Sex Pistols, and Clash singles, and Raw Power, but beyond that, I'm kinda clueless.
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Yoshifan823 posted:I'm kinda starting to get into punk, and I've got some Ramones, Sex Pistols, and Clash singles, and Raw Power, but beyond that, I'm kinda clueless. Well, punk rock went in a lot of different directions. If you like it harder, you can check out Black Flag, the Dead Kennedys, the Circle Jerks, and Minor Threat, and delve into hardcore from there. If you like a more poppy sound, you can go buy nearly anything that was on the radio in the mid to late 90's- older Green Day, the Offspring, the Dead Milkmen, NOFX, that sort of thing. I'd recommend trying Crass, since if you're into politics you'll probably like them, but under no circumstances should you start with "Yes Sir, I Will", which is... different. A great idea is to head down to your local record store and grab any punk compilations available- punk rock is probably the comp-happiest genre (outside of EDM, maybe) and you can discover a lot of great bands that way. If you're liking the older stuff more, go track down a copy of The Decline of Western Civilization, a documentary about the LA punk scene in 79/80; there's a lot of great performances by legendary (and in one case, utterly forgotten) bands.
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Yoshifan823 posted:I'm kinda starting to get into punk, and I've got some Ramones, Sex Pistols, and Clash singles, and Raw Power, but beyond that, I'm kinda clueless. That's a good start point, as you've got pretty much the four 'core' sounds of punk, each of which kinda spread off in their own direction. Which of those artists are you more leaning towards?
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Surfer Rosa Parks posted:That's a good start point, as you've got pretty much the four 'core' sounds of punk, each of which kinda spread off in their own direction. Which of those artists are you more leaning towards? I'd say The Ramones are a step above the rest. I actually have some (not a whole lot) Pop Punk (the big early Green Day Singles, Blink 182's Greatest Hits, Americana, and I dunno if they count, but The Hives), and a bunch of 3rd Wave Ska, which are pretty similar, but mostly those are pretty basic stuff. I'll have to get Dookie for sure, I know that.
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Ah, well in that case you should definitely dig into the UK punk scene from 1977-80 which is where pretty much all of those 90's revivalist bands stole their poo poo from (and IMO, I feel most of it is a pretty poor imitation). Pick up 'Singles Going Steady' by The Buzzcocks straight away as it's pretty much the perfect pop-punk album and predates Dookie by about 15 years. Then after that check out 'Damned Damned Damned' by The Damned, which was the first full-length punk album to be released in the UK, and The Clash's S/T debut. Also X-ray Spex's 'Germ Free Adolescents' and The Jams 'Snap!' (a greatest hits compilation, but a really good one) are fantastic albums too, and have a bit more of a ska edge as well. e: here's a few youtubes The Buzzcocks- What Do I Get? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EEPvXlTUnU The Damned- Neat Neat Neat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE-UbbTjcGY X Ray Spex- Oh Bondage, Up Yours! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AS4bBEMT44 The Jam- Town Called Malice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXTrCEXlLKY pablo gbscobar fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 31, 2010 |
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You should check out Wire too, but I guess they fall under that 77-80 UK scene. This is one of my favorite songs from their "Pink Flag" album http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEJSe8vutnM
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Jul 31, 2010 16:31
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Where do I start with DJ Screw?
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sideburns posted:Where do I start with DJ Screw? All Screwed Up is probably his most interesting album, however, 3 N The Mornin (Part 1) has more well known songs on it. Start with either of those, or look for a fan made compilation on torrents, many of which pull from his "Screw Tapes" which were bootlegged mixes he made. There are 250 of them, so go ahead and let someone else do the work wading through the crap to find the good stuff.
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Yoshifan823 posted:I'd say The Ramones are a step above the rest. I actually have some (not a whole lot) Pop Punk (the big early Green Day Singles, Blink 182's Greatest Hits, Americana, and I dunno if they count, but The Hives), and a bunch of 3rd Wave Ska, which are pretty similar, but mostly those are pretty basic stuff. I'll have to get Dookie for sure, I know that. You got good recommendations but I'd throw in Husker Du (album Zen Arcade) as well.
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KY Labia Majoris posted:You got good recommendations but I'd throw in Husker Du (album Zen Arcade) as well. Good call - as long as someone's at that point, they might as well pick up Let It Be by the Replacements as well, it's not exactly "pop-punk", but it contains some elements of both genres.
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Yoshifan823 posted:I'm kinda starting to get into punk, and I've got some Ramones, Sex Pistols, and Clash singles, and Raw Power, but beyond that, I'm kinda clueless. KevinHeaven posted:You should check out Wire too, but I guess they fall under that 77-80 UK scene. Continuing down this more post-punk route (where a quite a few mid-00's bands took their cues from) it's worth checking out some of Wire's contemporaries, especially Gang of Four, and their first two albums, Entertainment! and Solid Gold.
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hawaiian_robot posted:Continuing down this more post-punk route (where a quite a few mid-00's bands took their cues from) it's worth checking out some of Wire's contemporaries, especially Gang of Four, and their first two albums, Entertainment! and Solid Gold. On the post-punk front, I would be remiss to go without mentioning Public Image Ltd.'s (John Lydon a.k.a. Johnny Rotten moved onto this group after the Sex Pistols) Second Edition, The Fall's (Bizarre long running group with a revolving door cast, excluding one member) Grotesque (After the Gramme), Magazine's (Featuring a former Buzzcock) Real Life, and the Pop Group's (Early experiments in combing punk with jerky funk) Y. Those groups make up a lot of the basis for the genre called post-punk, at least in my opinion.
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I'm not really a big music fan, but I just found out that my cousin is a tour member of the band Interpol, and I'm wondering what songs of theirs I should be listening to.
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Die Laughing posted:I'm not really a big music fan, but I just found out that my cousin is a tour member of the band Interpol, and I'm wondering what songs of theirs I should be listening to. For the love of all that is holy, please only listen to their first album, Turn on the Bright Lights. In my opinion, they have only gotten worse from there. Turn on the Bright Lights is a really emotional album, and it sort of comes at you in a wall of sound. Check PDA, Stella Was a Driver, and Roland.
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Seconding what trans fat said, even Interpol fans who enjoy all of their stuff would recommend that you start with the debut. It's just a fantastic album in general.
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trans fat posted:For the love of all that is holy, please only listen to their first album, Turn on the Bright Lights. In my opinion, they have only gotten worse from there. Turn on the Bright Lights is a really emotional album, and it sort of comes at you in a wall of sound. Check PDA, Stella Was a Driver, and Roland. I agree with you but Antics and Our Love to Admire are good in their own way 
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Red Rogue posted:On the post-punk front, I would be remiss to go without mentioning Public Image Ltd.'s (John Lydon a.k.a. Johnny Rotten moved onto this group after the Sex Pistols) Second Edition, The Fall's (Bizarre long running group with a revolving door cast, excluding one member) Grotesque (After the Gramme), Magazine's (Featuring a former Buzzcock) Real Life, and the Pop Group's (Early experiments in combing punk with jerky funk) Y. There are so many good bands that fall under the post-punk banner, Yoshifan (and anyone else, for that matter), if you're still interested, maybe have a look at Simon Reynolds' book Rip It Up and Start Again, it's pretty much the book on the genre, and is quite thorough. Not a lot in the book about This Heat, though - their album Deceit is pretty great. God I could go on all day about this stuff
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The guy says he really likes Ramones and y'all tell him Wire, Husker Du, Gang of Four and This Heat? I love the more arty punk but how about Vibrators, Descendents, FYP/Toys that Kill/Undergound Railroad to Candyland, Groovie Ghoulies, etc. He's clearly looking for pop punk
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In regards to the punk inquisition, something a little pop-punky, while still being pretty punk, is something along the lines of The Lawrence Arms?
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Pope Guilty posted:Well, punk rock went in a lot of different directions. If you like it harder, you can check out Black Flag, the Dead Kennedys, the Circle Jerks, and Minor Threat, and delve into hardcore from there. Staying on the lines of punk, I've just got into it myself and I'm really into all the hardcore bands you've listed here. Where should I go from here? Also I'm really digging Ramones but theres no way I'm going to listen to Green Day, NOFX, The Offspring though, sorry :P edit: VVVVV Awesome thanks guys, that should keep me going for ages 
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Farts Domino posted:The guy says he really likes Ramones and y'all tell him Wire, Husker Du, Gang of Four and This Heat? I love the more arty punk but how about Vibrators, Descendents, FYP/Toys that Kill/Undergound Railroad to Candyland, Groovie Ghoulies, etc. He's clearly looking for pop punk That's a very good point, I was way too willing to wave the "GUYS I REALLY LIKE POST-PUNK" flag - I guess it's because my knowledge of the more poppier stuff begins and ends with the Singles Going Steady compliation. I'll definitely check out the stuff you mentioned, though.
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Sandwolf posted:In regards to the punk inquisition, something a little pop-punky, while still being pretty punk, is something along the lines of The Lawrence Arms? I got so confused by this post, but yeah if you're looking for good modern punk, look no further than The Lawrence Arms. Also if you enjoy them, go out and grab the first few Alkaline Trio albums, and stuff by The Broadways, The Falcon, Sundowner, Jawbreaker, Dillinger Four, Dear Landlord, Off With Their Heads... generally anything favorably reviewed on Punknews.org will be up your alley if you like The Lawrence Arms. If you're looking for a good place to start with The Lawrence Arms, try Oh, Calcutta!, their most recent release, which is in my opinion their best. After that go for Apathy & Exhaustion, The Greatest Story Ever Told, and Ghost Stories. If you REALLY dig them, get A Guided Tour Of Chicago and the B-Sides/Rarities collection, Cocktails & Dreams. Hollenhammer posted:Staying on the lines of punk, I've just got into it myself and I'm really into all the hardcore bands you've listed here. Where should I go from here? Germs - MIA: The Complete Anthology Fear - Fear (The Record) Adolescents - Adolescents Reagan Youth - A Collection Of Pop Classics Radio Spiricom fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Aug 2, 2010 |
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Hollenhammer posted:Staying on the lines of punk, I've just got into it myself and I'm really into all the hardcore bands you've listed here. Where should I go from here? Check out other first wave hardcore essentials like Bad Brains, Reagan Youth, Adolescents, Void, Poison Idea, Gang Green, D.O.A, Urban Waste, 7 Seconds, D.R.I, Articles of Faith, etc. Keep in mind that there is a limitless number of super small early 80's hardcore bands involved in local scenes. Read through blogs or buy state or city-specific comps to discover some of those.
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