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AnimalChin posted:From CNN: I can't help thinking that pic is a series of shots taken a few seconds apart and merged together, and the squadron is just one boat. Edit: after seeing the video, it looks like it is real, also the noise from their little prop engines only serves to make them more cute. Manny fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Sep 29, 2010 |
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I remember seeing some stuff about Iranian amphibians before and I'm pretty sure we managed to find out which American kitplane it was based on. Factory in Flordia if I remember correctly. edit: vvv a UAV that isn't U and barely A. Ola fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Sep 29, 2010 |
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I imagine that those would be fairly decent for patrolling Iran's coastline. They're clearly surveillance intended - they mention the camera specifically. Think of it as an el-cheapo first gen UAV that is flown by a dude.
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# ? Sep 29, 2010 13:35 |
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Iran has a lot of catching up to do to the Russians I give you the 550ton 460mph Caspian Sea Monster and it's little brother, the Lun class
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# ? Sep 29, 2010 14:16 |
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Ahmedinejad moves one step closer to being a Bond villain
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# ? Sep 29, 2010 14:26 |
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In ground effect aircraft are weird. Those iranian aircraft will only fly "well" within 1/4 of their wingspan of the ground. Cheaper, and certainly more effective than a hydrofoil. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_in_aircraft
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# ? Sep 29, 2010 14:29 |
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Dammit, anybody have that big page with all the pictures of that russian ekranoplan? e: nevermind, here it is http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2010/03/12/ekranoplan/
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# ? Sep 29, 2010 14:34 |
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I guess we have to post this guy again:
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I imagine that those would be fairly decent for patrolling Iran's coastline. They're clearly surveillance intended - they mention the camera specifically. Think of it as an el-cheapo first gen UAV that is flown by a dude. I actually think they are probably more suited for packing with explosives and letting true believers fly them.
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AnimalChin posted:quote:47 Ships Sunk by Kamikaze Aircraft Cheap? Check Simple? Check Small? Check Fast? Check Being made of composite materials will lower their radar cross section, along with being able to fly at high speed at extremely low altitude it would be nearly impossible to stop an attack against a warship. Here's their prototype:
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Phy posted:These just get more and more terrifying. It's bad enough that one of them sounds like a swarm of flies all on its own. Then we found out they could flip themselves through a moving window like a goddamn flying Wallenda. Now they can gang up on you and pick you up by your head? I'll take a pursuing swam of flies over this any day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBMU6l6GsdM Scarier than flying monkeys, if you ask me.
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MonkeyNutZ posted:This is equal parts and
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galliumscan posted:I'll take a pursuing swam of flies over this any day: this is by far the scariest thing I have ever loving seen. It hovers perfectly level, too.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Being made of composite materials will lower their radar cross section, Not nearly enough. quote:along with being able to fly at high speed at extremely low altitude it would be nearly impossible to stop an attack against a warship. That's an option. Perhaps not the best...
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Being made of composite materials will lower their radar cross section, along with being able to fly at high speed at extremely low altitude it would be nearly impossible to stop an attack against a warship. Frankly, something that size could be made of wood and fabric, which have an even lower cross-section than composites, but it doesn't matter. Modern radars can pick up something the size of a basketball hundreds of miles out, and that big block of an engine sticking way out of the fuselage is going to be producing a huge return. There's an anecdote from the testing of the F-117 where one night the aggressors were having a breeze of a time tracking the prototype, and when they landed it they found that one screw had been left sticking out 1/4 of a turn. So yeah the "stealth" is just total bullshit. Even if the plane were completely invisible to radar, the pilot's helmet would provide enough of a return to make it completely visible. [e] and yeah those phalanxes can shoot down missiles going mach 2 a few feet above the water. There will be zero problem shooting down a subsonic flying boat that they can see a hundred miles away orange lime fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Sep 30, 2010 |
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I may be completely off base, but couldn't they just make them out of wood/spare parts, and just build a gently caress ton of them? (That is until a cruise missile hits the factory)
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They probably wouldn't hit an aircraft carrier with them, but aircraft carriers aren't going to be the ships trying to lock down their ports or land on their beaches.
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blugu64 posted:I may be completely off base, but couldn't they just make them out of wood/spare parts, and just build a gently caress ton of them? Sure, but then it would probably take 2-3 hits from a Phalanx to take them down, and that gun system (of which there are several on the carrier) can put like 4,000 rounds a minute into the air.
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Godholio posted:quote:On February 25, 1991, during the first Gulf War, the Phalanx-equipped USS Jarrett (FFG-33) was a few miles from the USS Missouri (BB-63) and the destroyer HMS Gloucester (D96). The ships were attacked by an Iraqi Silkworm missile (often referred to as the Seersucker), at which Missouri fired its SRBOC chaff. The Phalanx system on Jarrett, operating in the automatic target-acquisition mode, fixed upon Missouri's chaff, releasing a burst of rounds. From this burst, four rounds hit Missouri which was two to three miles (about 5 km) from Jarrett at the time. There were no injuries.[14] A Sea Dart missile was then launched from the Gloucester, which destroyed the Iraqi missile, achieving the first successful engagement of a missile by a missile during combat at sea. Also remember, Iran has a history of massive human-wave attacks and in any scenario where these things are being flown as kamikazes, there will be several hundred Iranian cruise missiles in flight at the same time.
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Wanna read about some balls?quote:The X-1 was in principle a "bullet with wings", its shape closely resembled the Browning .50-caliber (12.7 mm) machine gun bullet that was known to be stable in supersonic flight.[2] The pattern shape was followed to the point of seating the pilot behind a sloped, framed window inside a confined cockpit in the nose, with no ejection seat. 1947, that Nazi tech was some goooooood poo poo. quote:he Bell X-2 was developed to provide a vehicle for researching flight characteristics in excess of the limits of the Bell X-1 and D-558 II, while investigating aerodynamic heating problems in what was then called the 'thermal thicket.' quote:Inertia coupling was essentially unknown before the introduction of high-speed jet aircraft. Prior to this time aircraft tended to be wider than long, and their mass was generally distributed closer to the center of mass. This was especially true for propeller aircraft, but equally true for early jet fighters as well. It was only when the aircraft began to sacrifice aerodynamic surface area in order to lower drag, and use longer fineness ratios that lowered supersonic drag, that the effect became obvious. In these cases the aircraft was generally much more tail-heavy, allowing its gyroscopic effect to overwhelm the small control surfaces. quote:The X-15 set speed and altitude records in the early 1960s, reaching the edge of outer space and returning with valuable data used in aircraft and spacecraft design. It currently holds the official world record for the fastest speed ever reached by a manned rocket powered aircraft.[1] That's a thick tail, must be thin air up there. quote:Adams' seventh X-15 flight, flight 3-65-97, took place on 15 November 1967. He reached a peak altitude of 266,000 feet; the nose of the aircraft was off heading by 15 degrees to the right. While descending, at 230,000 feet the aircraft encountered rapidly increasing aerodynamic pressure which impinged on the airframe, causing the X-15 to enter a violent Mach 5 spin. As the X-15 neared 65,000 feet, it was diving at Mach 3.93 and experiencing more than 15-g vertically (positive and negative), and 8-g laterally, which inevitably exceeded the design limits of the aircraft. The aircraft broke up 10 minutes and 35 seconds after launch, killing Adams. The United States Air Force posthumously awarded him the Purple Heart and astronaut Wings for his last flight. NathanScottPhillips fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Sep 30, 2010 |
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At oshkosh a few years back, I got to sit in on Scott Crossfields talk about being chief test engineer on the X-15 program. All kinds of awesome stories. The ones that stick out in my mind were: The X-15 ejection system. Apparently during the design phase, they were directed to incorporate a capsule-style ejection system on the X-15. The idea was shot down with great force, and Scott said something along the lines of "If we build a capsule that will survive an ejection at mach 5, why not just put wings on it and fly that instead" Also during the design phase, there was a great deal of concern about damaging the pilots with high-g vibrations, the solution they ended up going with was having Massey-Furguson, the tractor people, custom-fit and cut balsa-wood seats that went with the pilot. You went to fly the X-15, you'd pick out the seat with your butt-print on it, and drop it in place before you sat down. The best story was about the suits though. Story goes that they were flying the early program with fairly conventional pressure suits, you know, the green ones. They worked fine, but in a very competitive funding environment they were worried about losing out to the Mercury program on gee-whiz space man money. Apparently he saw an article in LOOK magazine with some notional ideas about what future space men would wear. All slick and tight and bubble-helmeted. And he said "we don't look like space men, we're gonna get cut". So he took the problem to David Clark, the pressure suit manufacturer, and they whipped up some shiny silver coveralls to go over top of the conventional pressure suit. Give it a little future-awesome look. Then he told the engineers to tell anybody who asked that the silver cover was for high performance thermal protection. Oddly enough, the Mercury space suits ended up shiny and silver for high performance thermal protection too.... Slo-Tek fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Sep 30, 2010 |
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When I saw the X-15 at Wright Patt, all I could focus on was the cockpit canopy and how absolutely loving tiny it was. The best I can describe it is as a helmet for the pilots helmet. I am surprised the guy was able to look any direction other than straight forward in that thing.
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Well, it's not like it matters -- you can't look up or down, and it seems that the windows cut you off at like a 150 degree angle of view. Plus the goal of the plane is "go in a straight line as fast as possible, then deadstick it in to a dry lake bed." Seems like they almost didn't need windows at all.
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Boomerjinks posted:When I saw the X-15 at Wright Patt, all I could focus on was the cockpit canopy and how absolutely loving tiny it was. The best I can describe it is as a helmet for the pilots helmet. I am surprised the guy was able to look any direction other than straight forward in that thing. At Mach 5 I doubt there's too much important to see in any direction, it's not like you'll be able to make a direction change in time to avoid hitting something.
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The test pilot stories, and many other stories from aviation advances of that era, is just pure pornography.
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Ola posted:The test pilot stories, and many other stories from aviation advances of that era, is just pure pornography. Yeah, it's pretty amazing to see guys talk about projects like "well, we wanted to do this so we built that and did it. It shook like a bitch and we killed two guys but it got done". We're just never gonna be like that again.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_M.52 quote:In 1944, design work was considered 90% complete and Miles was told to go ahead with the construction of three prototype M.52s. Later that year, the Air Ministry signed an agreement with the United States to exchange high-speed research and data. Miles Chief Aerodynamicist Dennis Bancroft stated that the Bell Aircraft company was given access to the drawings and research on the M.52,[9] but the U.S. reneged on the agreement and no data was forthcoming in return. This has to be one of my favourite ever photos: Click here for the full 1190x1024 image. And the rest are here for people that didn't know about this site: http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/Photo/index.html Manny fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Sep 30, 2010 |
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galliumscan posted:Just a little bit short of computational horsepower required:
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I took these pics at the Monino Airforce Museum in 2007 during a trip to Moscow. As the Museum guidebook says: One of the biggest aviation museums in the world and the only one in Russia is situated 38km east of Moscow, in the green masses of pine forest. Its unique collection is a real creation of human genius in Museum visitors discover multivarious world of aviation. There are more than 173 aircraft, 127 air engines in it, 44 of its exhibits are declared as monuments of science and technology. The Museum displays the history of origin and development or Russian aviation, the milestones on its hiroic path. The experienced guides will tell you about achievements of scientists and designers, about the bravery and courage of our winged warriors who glorified their motherland. The time you spend in this unique Museum will impress you greatly." So, there you have it. Never got round to posting these pics, but some are pretty interesting and I can't really think of a better thread to finally get these out there. Hopefully someone gets a kick out of these. Pe-2 Dive Bomber Tu-22 "Blinder" M-50 "Bounder" (nose of; I'm not the greatest photographer...) Su-100 prototype Su-100 prototype - close up of the drooping nose Mi-6 Tu-144 "Cleat" & An-22 "Cock" (I poo poo you not - I double checked the book) MiG-25 "Foxbat" MiG-25 - massive exhausts MiG-29 "Fulcrum" Su-25 "Frogfoot" & Tu-144 "Charger" aka Concordski Tu-144 - close-up of engines I literally have no idea what this is Sorry, I have no idea what this is either But look at its feet! Su-11 "Fishpot" Group shot Su-27 "Flanker" What's that overhead...? Mi-12 "Homer" Tu-16 "Badger" I have hi-res of any of these as well if people are interested. There were loads more planes scattered around but I didn't have the time to get to them. Also, the place is a nightmare to get to from Moscow, nobody I spoke to in Moscow had any idea the place existed, you have to walk through an operating military academy to get there (no-one cared...), and I was pissed I arrived just after MAKS. But a really amazing, surreal experience to see all these Soviet aviation icons up close. Mr Kazashvili is the curator. He's justifiably proud of his museum and if you speak a little bit of Russian is more than happy to show you around. jediguy fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Oct 5, 2010 |
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The thing on skids is a Sukhoi S-26 prototype. Awesome, awesome pics.
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jediguy posted:Yak-24 Assault Helicopter (I think...?) awesome pics and thanks a ton but a dude posting in this thread not knowing the Mil Mi-24 Hind, a shameful dude
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jediguy posted:Tu-144 "Cleat" & An-22 "Cock" (I poo poo you not - I double checked the book) You're gonna love it when you discover the NATO designation for the MiG-15. I, on the other hand, merely love the pointiness of that M-50. Planes were so sharp in the early 60s
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So, as promised, here are the Reno pics: Dot Matrix sign writing: One of the L39s being raced: A Dehavilland Vampire: C-17 U-2 training T-38, Aggressor F-15 More F-15 A-10 A-10 The Snowbirds U-2 Mustangs getting ready to race One of the faster Mustangs P-40 Fairey Firefly FW-190 What the Fockewulf More pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/drjonboyg/
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Got some photos my old man took back in Ye Olden Days - some pretty spectacular aircraft, doing pretty spectacular things... 5 RAF Hercs in formation, (RAF Mildenhall 1993) F-111 (Mildenhall 1993) 111Sqn Phantom FG.1, RAF Leuchars 1983 8 screws are better than 4 blow-jobs! Avro Shackelton AEW.2, RAF Leuchars 1983 RAF Chinook, with underslung Land Rover 101 and Rapier missile system - RAF Leuchars 1983 Red Arrows, Aberdeen beach 1977 (still with Folland Gnats - they flew LOW in those days!))
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http://www.nms.ac.uk/our_museums/museum_of_flight/games__fun/360_degree_cockpit_views.aspx Cool link with 360 degree cockpit views. The Avro Vulcan is insane.
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reddeathdrinker posted:Red Arrows, Aberdeen beach 1977 (still with Folland Gnats Scrolling down, I was all "Pfft, that's not low...oh." Great pictures!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyYujjP5J-k
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Seconding how awesome the Avro Vulcan is. I pass one every time I pop to my local airfield for a lesson and it always draws the eye.
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c355n4 posted:http://www.nms.ac.uk/our_museums/museum_of_flight/games__fun/360_degree_cockpit_views.aspx That's awesome, thanks for posting it. The rear crew area of the Vulcan really puts into perspective how tight it was - getting out of there in a hurry without ejector seats must have been scary poo poo.
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Sirveaux posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyYujjP5J-k It's like listening to a swarm of bees.
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