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from what I've heard, J. Michael Straczynski pitched babylon 5 to paramount, letting them see all the material he had developed, but they turned it down. after he went to warner bros and they started making the show, paramount announced DS9. some people think paramount ripped him off, but i don't know. i never watched B5.
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mr_jim posted:from what I've heard, J. Michael Straczynski pitched babylon 5 to paramount, letting them see all the material he had developed, but they turned it down. after he went to warner bros and they started making the show, paramount announced DS9. some people think paramount ripped him off, but i don't know. i never watched B5. It wasn't as good as people say.
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Jun 23, 2011 21:59
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depends on your tolerance for the lovely parts of tv sci fi (acting, CG)
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Jun 23, 2011 22:04
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haveblue posted:depends on your tolerance for the lovely parts of tv sci fi (acting, CG) It wasn't just that. The dude had been working on B5 for the better part of something like 15 years and it really showed. Eventually when you work on something for that long, you kinda lose perspective and everything gets really grandiose and interconnected and really reliant on every other detail.
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Jun 23, 2011 22:07
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trap sprang but while we're on the subject: USS Defiant vs. Whitestar, go
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Jun 23, 2011 22:16
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Delta FlyeahahaAHAHAHAHAHAaaghahha
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Jun 23, 2011 22:21
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B5 was the first time on sci-fi TV anyone blew up a whole solar system which was pretty cool for the mid-90s. I think you could do a pretty cool remake with a streamlined plot, maybe 3 seasons. I think at one point they were making filler episodes just to give themselves more rendering time.
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Jun 23, 2011 22:25
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HYMEN.SYS posted:It wasn't just that. The dude had been working on B5 for the better part of something like 15 years and it really showed. Eventually when you work on something for that long, you kinda lose perspective and everything gets really grandiose and interconnected and really reliant on every other detail. In B5's defense, it was one of the first shows to have a big multi-season metaplot, the CG was pretty impressive for its day (though it's aged badly), and the alien characters (the most important thing for an SF TV series) were great, especially Peter Jurasik and Andreas Katsulas. Oh, and Claudia Christian was fun to look at.
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Jun 23, 2011 22:29
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FEMA summer camp posted:trap sprang defiant, no contest. better rendering
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Jun 23, 2011 22:31
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Pram posted:defiant, no contest. better rendering Most shots of the Defiant were miniatures. Pretty much everything was.
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Jun 23, 2011 22:35
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the defiant looked pretty lame imo
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Jun 23, 2011 22:36
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 hmm anime ship or respectable federation craft. u decide
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Jun 23, 2011 22:43
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Pram posted:
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Jun 23, 2011 22:46
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FMguru posted:And then they got a fifth season, which was all but unwatchable, because he'd used up all his ideas  I quite dug Space: Above and Beyond for latenight low-budget sciffy, the aliens looked cool medieval-armor-like.
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Jun 23, 2011 22:55
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the defiant look like a dishrag
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Jun 23, 2011 23:00
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ds9 is still watchable today because the production quality was so good. b5, not so much.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:00
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g'kar and londo own tho.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:00
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Pram posted:
oh we're judging looks instead of combat ability now? you could never hang in my larping league
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Jun 23, 2011 23:02
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Shaggar posted:g'kar and londo own tho. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NsdQzoIXIE 
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Jun 23, 2011 23:02
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s1 was mostly terrible filler i'll fight any of you who has a bad word to say about the entirety of s3-4 ^^ the last half of s5 redeemed that whole season, precisely because of londo
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Jun 23, 2011 23:02
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Shaggar posted:ds9 is still watchable today because the production quality was so good. b5, not so much. "Shaggar' posted:g'kar and londo own tho.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:03
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FMguru posted:ds9 also had excellent actors pretty much across the board, so even bad episodes are at least watchable. b5, not so much. there's a few i just can't sit through though. the brigadoon one is probably the worst
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Jun 23, 2011 23:04
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JawnV6 posted:lets hope they time travel to the 1990's don't be such a freakasaurus
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Jun 23, 2011 23:04
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found it: http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Meridian_(episode) i hate this episode. luckily the rest of the series more than makes up for it.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:07
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FEMA summer camp posted:oh we're judging looks instead of combat ability now? if the defiant can go up against a borg cube it can kick the poo poo out of a nerdship b5 pos
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Jun 23, 2011 23:08
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mr_jim posted:there's a few i just can't sit through though. the brigadoon one is probably the worst
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Jun 23, 2011 23:08
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FMguru posted:the writing quality on ds9 was really variable, particularly on a week to week basis. you'd get a dark episode where Sisko effectively endorses genocide as a way to protect the federation and then next week: lol wacky holodeck baseball hijinks! that's true, but i think it was intentional. they had a few comedic relief episodes each season. the baseball one was ok, but the tribbles one owns.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:10
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mr_jim posted:that's true, but i think it was intentional. they had a few comedic relief episodes each season. the baseball one was ok, but the tribbles one owns.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:11
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FMguru posted:they were usually terrible, though, particularly early on. oh those wacky ferenghi! the tribble, james bond, and roswell episodes were gold, though. They were at least watchable, unlike all but five episodes of Voyager.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:12
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HYMEN.SYS posted:They were at least watchable, unlike all but five episodes of Voyager. jeri ryan was in more than 5 eps tho...
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Jun 23, 2011 23:13
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FMguru posted:they were usually terrible, though, particularly early on. oh those wacky ferenghi! the tribble, james bond, and roswell episodes were gold, though. The Magnificent Ferengi wasn't good, but at least it had Iggy Pop.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:13
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the ferengi eps rule, for the most part. idk why u hatin'. the worst eps are meridian and move along home.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:13
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meridian is literally a ferengi ep
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Jun 23, 2011 23:14
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mr_jim posted:The Magnificent Ferengi wasn't good, but at least it had Iggy Pop. what... thats like the second best one next to house of quark.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:15
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Shaggar posted:the ferengi eps rule, for the most part. idk why u hatin'. i forgot about move along home. meridian is the second worst episode. and the worst ds9 ferengi episode is still better than any tng episode with ferengi characters. those stupid whip things! and the fur! 
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Jun 23, 2011 23:15
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JawnV6 posted:jeri ryan was in more than 5 eps tho... Most of her episodes were unwatchable trash, sorry.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:18
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i was thinking bout the holo doc and year of hell and im thinking hmmm maybe i should watch voyager b/c i havent seen it in years and years, maybe its not so bad and then i remember neelix.
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Jun 23, 2011 23:18
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Shaggar posted:i was thinking bout the holo doc and year of hell and im thinking hmmm maybe i should watch voyager b/c i havent seen it in years and years, maybe its not so bad and then i remember neelix. Remember when Janeway killed Tuvix off, essentially committing murder and genocide all at the same time? And how Tuvix was actually a far better character than Neelix or Tuvok?
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Jun 23, 2011 23:19
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lmao im watching the roadrunner/wiley e coyote farscape episode right now. has anyone else seen this? wtf is going on
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Shaggar posted:i was thinking bout the holo doc and year of hell and im thinking hmmm maybe i should watch voyager b/c i havent seen it in years and years, maybe its not so bad and then i remember neelix. i'm actually thinking about watching it on netflix, since i didn't watch past the first season when it first aired. i've heard that if you go into it knowing that janeway is insane it's not as bad.
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