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i vaguely remember some story (idk if it was a short or not) but it was about being on mars in these presurized cloth or plastic or something domes. And they kept getting ripped and the people inside had to go patch them. And there was something about the martian dust being really thick and i guess covering parts of the domes (where the rips were?) And something about there might be martiains moving around in the dust ripping the domes but thats about all i can remember. idk how much of that is even part of the story but i remember it freaking me out as a kid. sci fi is kewl
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Shaggar posted:i vaguely remember you're posts (they are bad)
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can anyone find a picture of that propaganda painting gul dukat commissioned and then put on display? it's like him as the savior and a whole bunch of children/poors standing around basking in his magnificence. i want to ironically use it as a starbux tumbler insert
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Jun 29, 2011 04:25
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ask in the star trek thred in tv/iv
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Jun 29, 2011 04:36
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haveblue posted:why has nobody mentioned clarke yet i remember trying to read rama 2 several years ago and feeling put off by it shortly into it. i tried again last year and after awhile managed to get sucked in b/c i really wanted to see how things played out. that said, i wouldn't recommend the Rama sequels either, big chunks of them feel like a big couch session for Gentry Lee. on the other hand, 2010 loving owns owns owns. i remember when i first read it i just sorta found myself in the book totally visualizing the whole thing, then i 'woke up' like three hours later. totally loving awesome. 2061 and 3001 veer off course though; the former is sort of weird, like Clarke really didn't know what to do with the book beyond hitting a couple of key points, and the latter is pretty severely self-indulgent (at least in comparison to the rest of the series)
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i remember trying to read rama 2 several years ago and feeling put off by it shortly into it. i tried again last year and after awhile managed to get sucked in b/c i really wanted to see how things played out. that said, i wouldn't recommend the Rama sequels either, big chunks of them feel like a big couch session for Gentry Lee. childhood's end is the second best sf novel ever (the forever war is the best).
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Jun 29, 2011 05:05
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childhood's end was also the inspiration for the cover art on houses of the holy
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Jun 29, 2011 05:10
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johndis posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez2XfvN8XSc quotin this from way back because i helped a friend build a Doom .wad based on the final shootout in Outland, it owned.
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Antillese posted:So Consider Phlebas and Use of Weapons are a coin toss for babby's first Culture picture book? I haven't read any of them and I'm pretty curious about them. 'Consider Phlebas' is a better intro to the culture but 'Player of games' is almost as good of an intro and a better story, sharp guy like you should be able to pick up on it pretty quick though so I recommend the latter. 'Use of weapons' was kinda weak IMO but apparently I'm in the minority on this FEMA summer camp fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Jun 29, 2011 |
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Jun 29, 2011 06:17
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if anyone hasn't read 'Forever war' by some guy named Haldeman or something like that yet you should do it before the movie comes out
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Jun 29, 2011 06:18
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FEMA summer camp posted:if anyone hasn't read 'Forever war' by some guy named Haldeman or something like that yet you should do it before the movie comes out its not a very good book it's joe haldeman btw
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Jun 29, 2011 06:22
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rotor posted:its not a very good book
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Jun 29, 2011 06:30
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rotor posted:its not a very good book was gonna buy this today but i hesitated now i'm glad i did thanks, rotor thotor
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Jun 29, 2011 06:42
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iunno, i dont remember it being good but then again i read it in like 7th grade or smething so im not really vested in my opinion
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Jun 29, 2011 06:42
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i remember my big beef was thinking "why would anyone do this, it just doesn't make sense, people would not do this" whenever any characters made a decision
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"If you join up, by the time you get home centuries will have passed and the society you risked your life to protect will have changed so much you wont recognize it. everyone you knew will be long dead. also they will have forgotten about you. Still up for it?" "yeah, sure." *centuries pass* "Welp, how about joining up again?" "why not?"
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hmm i may have to reevaluate when you were 13 humanity hadn't quite grasped the written word yet
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Jun 29, 2011 06:47
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its not like its fine literature, you can probably read it in like 4 days, it's not exactly a huge time investment.
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Jun 29, 2011 06:48
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rotor posted:its not like its fine literature, you can probably read it in like 4 days, it's not exactly a huge time investment. writers knew how to get to the point back before word processors became common.
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rotor posted:the society you risked your life to protect will have changed so much you wont recognize it. everyone you knew will be long dead. see? you missed the point of the whole god drat book!
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FEMA summer camp posted:see? you missed the point of the whole god drat book! no i got it i just found the characters choices unbelievable
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Jun 29, 2011 06:54
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and this is in a book that features spaceships with tachyon drives
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Jun 29, 2011 06:54
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i mean for gently caress sake i was 13 and i got the vietnam parable, it could not be any less subtle unless they'd named the alien race the Gookulons and fought them on the planet Veetnoom Prime
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Jun 29, 2011 06:56
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forever war had some cool tech and time dilation stuff that young nerds find rad as hell but yeah it's nothing special. unlike the hyperion cantos by dan simmons which owns so hard
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i read transmetropolitan and though "heh this owns" then i tried reading it again recently and it wasn't as good warren ellis still owns tho, planetary 4 lyfe
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Jun 29, 2011 06:59
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Peter F. Hamilton does some good Sci Fi. Couldn't get into The Night's Dawn Trilogy. The Misspent Youth and Commonwealth Saga is very pro. Still waiting on my friend to find his copies of the Void Trilogy so I can read them
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Jun 29, 2011 07:01
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Kirk posted:i read transmetropolitan and though "heh this owns"
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also thanks for the book protips guys this is a good thread
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Kirk posted:i read transmetropolitan and though "heh this owns" great art throughout, though. quote:warren ellis still owns tho, planetary 4 lyfe
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the individual stories and concepts are what made planetary great, nobody was reading it for the moral. taking common comic book tropes and giving them a once over by ellis was the real power of planetary. the first preview issue with the hulk ripoff was awesome
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rotor posted:no i got it i just found the characters choices unbelievable i'm gay as hell and I'd rather kill aliens than kiss a dude
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Jun 29, 2011 08:00
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FMguru posted:my favorite warren ellis character is the chainsmoking badass whose profane and cynical manner is a mask for their frustrated idealism. me too
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future war
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one of the problems I have with later Star Trek is the issue of writers/producers basically going "we've got this idea that wouldn't actually work for production/logic/continuity reasons, but we're just going to bullshit our way through it because we really want to do it and we're too lazy to actually rewrite anything." "we need the warp drive to be a ticking time bomb" "well, there's a whole lot of effort the Federation put into designing it so it won't do that." "well it just is. ejection system? oh that failed. off switch? yeah that failed too. BOOM! see, that was simple. this is why you nerds aren't writers like us." "we have this plot which is p. much just a war story but we need something to make it 'trek', ideas?" "some bullshit about 'subspace mines' they can poke around at with tricorders, which eventually helps their bros out" "gj, have the boys down in arts & crafts whip up some technobabble for it. and add some scenes in that 60s bar, i fukken love the 60s" "my episode's bullshit external threat subplot hinges around some gimmick where the ship can't turn at warp speed" "uhhhhhhhh" "gently caress you i'm making this happen *takes a huge poo poo*"
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tng script drafts literally had sections that just said "[technobabble]" in them. there was a guy who'd fill it "phase-adaptive plasma channel" and "multi-mode inflection sort algorithm" later on.
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FEMA summer camp posted:'Consider Phlebas' is a better intro to the culture but 'Player of games' is almost as good of an intro and a better story, sharp guy like you should be able to pick up on it pretty quick though so I recommend the latter. Use of Weapons was the first one I tried reading, but it's quite heavy when you dunno what the culture is compared to other...'factions'(?) Player of Games is a good intro because it revolves around the culture and another race, so there's setup for both and you understand the culture a bit more. Which means you can then go and read all the other culture novels because they're cool. They might not be for everyone, but they're decent books. Some of the ship names are cool too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_(The_Culture) And while it's not sci-fi, I read Wasp Factory (Which is also by Banks) and that was pretty cool.
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Pram posted:future war ...future war always changes get it because its the future you see and it finally started changing!
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Ender's Game is terrible and Orson Scott Card is a hack just going to throw that out there
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axolotl farmer posted:Ender's Game is terrible and Orson Scott Card is a hack i liked it when i was a kid. that's all i can say for it. as for card, i usually don't care what an author's political opinions are, but his are straight up repugnant. i'm pretty sure he's called for a violent overthrow of the government if gay marriage becomes legal nation-wide.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:one of the problems I have with later Star Trek is the issue of writers/producers basically going "we've got this idea that wouldn't actually work for production/logic/continuity reasons, but we're just going to bullshit our way through it because we really want to do it and we're too lazy to actually rewrite anything." this is why we have no idea how the galactica's hyperdrive works ron moore was sick of writers coming up with good story ideas and some nerd saying "that could never happen because [technobabble from two seasons ago]"
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