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Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Blackdawgg posted:

I wonder why the hell we rely on sight to signal thousands of tons of weight to stop in inclement weather and lighting. Track signals should be relayed to an in cab display with actual signals serving as only a backup for failure.
The problem is that the engineer is asleep, and the only way to fix that is with a Positive Train Control system that monitors the progress of the train and stops it if it's somewhere it shouldn't be, but those are expensive so that won't happen. Having the engineer acknowledge signals via a button in the cab is comparatively cheap and easy, but a sleeping engineer can pretty easily do a simple action like that, like how the engineer in this case acknowledged the alerter.

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nitrogen
May 21, 2004

Oh, what's a 217°C difference between friends?

Blackdawgg posted:

I wonder why the hell we rely on sight to signal thousands of tons of weight to stop in inclement weather and lighting. Track signals should be relayed to an in cab display with actual signals serving as only a backup for failure.

Engineers ignore these, too.

My ex-father in law works for BNSF, signals. The stories he tells me are full of poo poo that would turn you white.

We've got a goon who drives (or drove) trains for UP that i'm sure can also tell stories...

LobsterboyX
Jun 27, 2003
I want to eat my chicken.
nice to read before i hop on the amtrak..

Joe 30330
Dec 20, 2007

"We have this notion that if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids."

As the audience reluctantly began to applaud during the silence, Biden tried to fix his remarks.

"Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids -- no, I really mean it." Biden said.

Blackdawgg posted:

I wonder why the hell we rely on sight to signal thousands of tons of weight to stop in inclement weather and lighting. Track signals should be relayed to an in cab display with actual signals serving as only a backup for failure.


quote:

Probable Cause and Contributing Factors

The conductor of the eastbound train’s use of cocaine may have contributed to the cause of the accident. However, the toxicological results do not allow a
conclusion concerning either possible impairment or when the drug was taken.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Alereon posted:

...but a sleeping engineer can pretty easily do a simple action like that, like how the engineer in this case acknowledged the alerter.

From what I recall from the locomotive insanity thread, the alerter is used so frequently that it might as well not be there. I think some of the guys who work for the railroads said that the alerter goes off for no reason every so often (can't recall the precise time) just to ensure the engineer acknowledges the alerter when it goes off. If it goes off for no reason other than to make you push the button its not that hard to see how an engineer could just become conditioned to push the button when the system squawks and not necessarily know why it squawked.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Geoj posted:

From what I recall from the locomotive insanity thread, the alerter is used so frequently that it might as well not be there. I think some of the guys who work for the railroads said that the alerter goes off for no reason every so often (can't recall the precise time) just to ensure the engineer acknowledges the alerter when it goes off. If it goes off for no reason other than to make you push the button its not that hard to see how an engineer could just become conditioned to push the button when the system squawks and not necessarily know why it squawked.
I think everyone has had a situation where they set their alarm clock for 6 am, but wake up at about 6:30 am after hitting the snooze a few times without realizing it.

MikeyTsi
Jan 11, 2009

stizu posted:

Companies like Scosche make aftermarket terminals that are meant to add a power cable without it making it look like a kludge. The only problem is that they look sort of gaudy, they are gold colored, and have a plastic housing for some reason. I imagine if you went looking at a car stereo store or website, you might find less gaudy solutions.

I just took a look at the scosche website and the terminals are more expensive than I remembered. Still I am pretty sure that a less expensive and less gaudy solution exists for the same reason these exist. Though if you like really clean terminals, these are pretty corrosion proof iirc.

Not gold-colored, gold plated. It's done because gold is a really good electrical conductor. It's also highly resistant to corrosion, which is probably pretty useful when in an environment like an engine compartment.

The plastic housing is a further attempt to prevent corrosion by trying to keep poo poo away from the connectors.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

MikeyTsi posted:

Not gold-colored, gold plated. It's done because gold is a really good electrical conductor. It's also highly resistant to corrosion, which is probably pretty useful when in an environment like an engine compartment.


Moreso the latter. Silver and copper are both better electrical conductors than gold, but they're both more reactive. A thin layer of plating isn't going to result in significantly better conductance, especially if we're talking about DC; high-frequency AC likes to stick close to the surface of the conductor, but DC doesn't care about that.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Phanatic posted:

Moreso the latter. Silver and copper are both better electrical conductors than gold, but they're both more reactive. A thin layer of plating isn't going to result in significantly better conductance, especially if we're talking about DC; high-frequency AC likes to stick close to the surface of the conductor, but DC doesn't care about that.

Which is why you commonly find Aluminum-alloy battery terminal blocks.

That Genuine Stank
Apr 25, 2004

MikeyTsi posted:

Not gold-colored, gold plated. It's done because gold is a really good electrical conductor. It's also highly resistant to corrosion, which is probably pretty useful when in an environment like an engine compartment.

The plastic housing is a further attempt to prevent corrosion by trying to keep poo poo away from the connectors.

Will an amateur radio not work if you don't use gold plated terminals?

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!

stizu posted:

Will an amateur radio not work if you don't use gold plated terminals?

Nah, we HAMs go in for the silver plated connections. They're easier to solder too.

Budget Monty
Jul 25, 2005

Ask me about my torrid love affair with Geico :ese:

tater_salad posted:

How the gently caress does one let their brakes get like this? I mean on the 2nd brake job wont the shop say "time to replace rotors"?
Its obvious they dont do their own work.

We had a dodge minivan come into our shop that was in there only because the "Brake" light came on. It was on because of low brake fluid (Because it was all in the calipers!). Upon inspection, the rotors looked just like that, but oddly enough, the brakes seamed fine on a test drive, not so much as a pull! The metal backing plate was all that remained of the brake pad on that side, and was bent like a banana from heat. Shocking to see something that bad after virtually no noticeable drive-ability issue.

MikeyTsi
Jan 11, 2009

stizu posted:

Will an amateur radio not work if you don't use gold plated terminals?

What exactly is your point?

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Budget Monty posted:

We had a dodge minivan come into our shop that was in there only because the "Brake" light came on. It was on because of low brake fluid (Because it was all in the calipers!). Upon inspection, the rotors looked just like that, but oddly enough, the brakes seamed fine on a test drive, not so much as a pull! The metal backing plate was all that remained of the brake pad on that side, and was bent like a banana from heat. Shocking to see something that bad after virtually no noticeable drive-ability issue.

See honey I told you that if we wait long enough that noise would stop. Brake jobs are a conspiracy, I mean the parts are made of metal so there's no way that they would wear out.

grover
Jan 23, 2002

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Budget Monty posted:

We had a dodge minivan come into our shop that was in there only because the "Brake" light came on. It was on because of low brake fluid (Because it was all in the calipers!). Upon inspection, the rotors looked just like that, but oddly enough, the brakes seamed fine on a test drive, not so much as a pull! The metal backing plate was all that remained of the brake pad on that side, and was bent like a banana from heat. Shocking to see something that bad after virtually no noticeable drive-ability issue.
What sort of noise did it make?

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

grover posted:

What sort of noise did it make?

I'm sure all the normal ones that a Dodge Caravan makes. Proper operation is indistinguishable from failure.

Hillridge
Aug 3, 2004

WWheeeeeee!

grover posted:

What sort of noise did it make?

"Killllllllllll Meeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Hillridge posted:

"Killllllllllll Meeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

The sad thing is that even replacing the calipers, rotors and fresh pads are not horrifyingly expensive. Letting something go to this point of failure should be a mandatory $5000 repair.

Paul Boz_
Dec 21, 2003

Sin City

tater_salad posted:

I mean the parts are made of metal so there's no way that they would wear out.

They thought that about the Space Shuttle Challenger as well.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Paul Boz_ posted:

They thought that about the Space Shuttle Challenger as well.

That was made of rubber :q:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Just get used to it. I work on the principal that if you have to tell someone stuff like "Your discs are .120" under minimum tolerance", they're not going to understand and just stare at you blankly. People with any concept of maintenance tend to already be aware, and get stuff done before it reaches the "Oh, sweet Jesus" stage - so if something's been allowed to deteriorate that badly, it would always have been allowed to deteriorate that badly.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009





From what i can gather, he got it stuck under a bridge, let the air out of all of his tires to get it unstuck, and figured he would just keep driving until he could find a place to air them back up.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Powershift posted:



From what i can gather, he got it stuck under a bridge, let the air out of all of his tires to get it unstuck, and figured he would just keep driving until he could find a place to air them back up.

Looks like it says "Rental" on the sides. That would explain his rather lax consequence analysis.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

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some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Some roadside service guy is going to be really pissed/tired after he replaces 22 tires on the side of the road.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


It was quick thinking to let the air out, but should have called for some air once unstuck

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Powershift posted:




From what i can gather, he got it stuck under a bridge, let the air out of all of his tires to get it unstuck, and figured he would just keep driving until he could find a place to air them back up.

I liked how he chocked the tires after stopping. Safety first!

That Genuine Stank
Apr 25, 2004

MikeyTsi posted:

What exactly is your point?

uapyro posted:

Even have 2 wires for my amateur radio just ran between the battery knobs and the wrap around connectors (sorry, I can't remember the names of each) irks me. I wish I knew of a way to make them look like they should go there.

Maybe I am wrong, but from this I am assuming that uapyro is competing in DB drags or any sort of car audio competition that requires a concourse section. Another assumption is that uapyro isn't interested in paying $40+ for one terminal. Also I had always thought that cables were subject to the "only as strong as the weakest link" adage. Can you buy 0 gauge gold plated wire?

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

Hillridge posted:

"Killllllllllll Meeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

Yeah like I said. "Proper operation is indistinguishable from failure."

ijustam
Jun 20, 2005

New 11foot8 vid :toot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVb0Va52MWs

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!

ijustam posted:

New 11foot8 vid :toot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVb0Va52MWs

You know, I wonder how many of these could be narrowly avoided if they put one final overheight sensor literally 5 feet from the beam, and when IT triggered a set of those parking garage up/down tire spikes placed 4' from the beam popped up to forcibly "lower" the vehicle a few inches...


It came to mind because it seems most are removed just fine by flattening the tires and pulling.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

Sponge! posted:

You know, I wonder how many of these could be narrowly avoided if they put one final overheight sensor literally 5 feet from the beam, and when IT triggered a set of those parking garage up/down tire spikes placed 4' from the beam popped up to forcibly "lower" the vehicle a few inches...


It came to mind because it seems most are removed just fine by flattening the tires and pulling.

You're suggesting digging a hole and installing a sophisticated system for flattening the tires...

Why not just dig a hole and lower the road?

astropika
Jul 5, 2007
no, not really

LloydDobler posted:

You're suggesting digging a hole and installing a sophisticated system for flattening the tires...

Why not just dig a hole and lower the road?

According to the FAQ there is a sewer main running under the road.

einTier
Sep 25, 2003

Charming, friendly, and possessed by demons.
Approach with caution.
gently caress. I just let all the smoke out of the Cayman S at the track today. I might be posting some really great photos soon, we'll see. I'm hoping head gasket, but it might be "new engine".

SwashedBuckles
Aug 10, 2007

Have at you!

einTier posted:

gently caress. I just let all the smoke out of the Cayman S at the track today. I might be posting some really great photos soon, we'll see. I'm hoping head gasket, but it might be "new engine".

poo poo, hopefully it's not too bad. First the Superleggeras and now this... :sympathy:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
What colour smoke? Or was it that really wonderful tricolour of black, blue and white?

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!

LloydDobler posted:

You're suggesting digging a hole and installing a sophisticated system for flattening the tires...

Why not just dig a hole and lower the road?

I'm suggesting digging an 16" deep 8" wide trench, and a 52-B size box with a little hydraulic pump and an accumulator tucked off to the side hooked to the new overheight warning sensor that is just like the 3 overheight warning sensors they already have up the road, only not hooked into lights this time.

MikeyTsi
Jan 11, 2009

stizu posted:

Maybe I am wrong, but from this I am assuming that uapyro is competing in DB drags or any sort of car audio competition that requires a concourse section. Another assumption is that uapyro isn't interested in paying $40+ for one terminal. Also I had always thought that cables were subject to the "only as strong as the weakest link" adage. Can you buy 0 gauge gold plated wire?

I explained why gold plated connectors are used, which was answering someone that was asking about gold plated connectors. I'm sure some people use them for "mad bling" or whatever other point you're trying to infer, but most people in competition are interested in it for effectiveness first.

You don't need "gold plated wire" if it's covered in a corrosion-resistant material (like the shielding all power/signal wire comes in). if water can't get to it, copper works just fine.

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

Sponge! posted:

I'm suggesting digging an 16" deep 8" wide trench, and a 52-B size box with a little hydraulic pump and an accumulator tucked off to the side hooked to the new overheight warning sensor that is just like the 3 overheight warning sensors they already have up the road, only not hooked into lights this time.


It would work, but it's completely unnecessary. There's a big I-beam in front of the bridge that protects the bridge itself. Since most body-job 5 ton trucks are built out of fibreglass and aluminium on top, it's probably cheaper for the insurance companies to fix that up than pay for 6 or 22 new commercial truck tires and a bunch of rims. Not to mention that since it's a 2 lane one-way road, you would inevitably catch some other motorist driving beside the truck who would have fit under the bridge just fine, and you can bet there would be a lawsuit involved there.

Plus a hydraulic system and sensor setup would be expensive to install and maintain. The I-beam might just need a little cheap welding every decade or something.

Also if you're just giving it the old can-opener, chances are you can tow it away pretty easily. With all the tires gone, it would become an all-day hazard while a tire guy worked on it.

Slung Blade fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Aug 4, 2011

einTier
Sep 25, 2003

Charming, friendly, and possessed by demons.
Approach with caution.

InitialDave posted:

What colour smoke? Or was it that really wonderful tricolour of black, blue and white?
It was white. Lots and lots of white smoke. Big huge clouds of it.

Found some oil under the car, maybe half a quart, counting all the oil on the engine. Maybe two tablespoons were it was parked. Couldn't find any on the track, and no one else noticed any either. Top of the engine smells of coolant.

We'll see when the local Porsche specialist cracks it open.

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uapyro
Jan 13, 2005

stizu posted:

Maybe I am wrong, but from this I am assuming that uapyro is competing in DB drags or any sort of car audio competition that requires a concourse section. Another assumption is that uapyro isn't interested in paying $40+ for one terminal. Also I had always thought that cables were subject to the "only as strong as the weakest link" adage. Can you buy 0 gauge gold plated wire?

I think you got the wrong type of radio in mind.

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