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Ibram Gaunt posted:It really depends on why you liked Persona 3 and 4. because if it's the whole social life sim element I don't think P2 will be the game for you. Well, I liked that, but not just that; I liked the story (specifics and depth) in general and the combat and the fusion and the general pace of the game. Whereas in 1 I didn't like the long slogs and backtracking and much-slower combat with dense unavoidable random encounters or the negotiation system that basically meant I had to 'fight' most groups twice to get past them. So, 2 is closer to...
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Persona 1. Mind you they are all tedious to play but P3 and P4 are a bit less tedious because the actual battle mechanic is handled well enough.
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Sep 9, 2011 22:15
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Yeah, Persona 2 is more of a straight ahead RPG than P3 or 4. P3 was actually a HUGE departure from the series' regular tropes, in fact. I still think Persona 2 is vastly superior to Persona 1, but that's mostly because I adore the story.
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Sep 9, 2011 22:18
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Thranguy posted:Well, I liked that, but not just that; I liked the story (specifics and depth) in general and the combat and the fusion and the general pace of the game. Whereas in 1 I didn't like the long slogs and backtracking and much-slower combat with dense unavoidable random encounters or the negotiation system that basically meant I had to 'fight' most groups twice to get past them.
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Sep 9, 2011 22:18
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Don't forget that you can negotiate with monsters in Persona 2 to give you items, money, info etc, which you can't in P3/P4.
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Sep 9, 2011 22:19
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Yeah, I've played a bit of Persona 2, and it has Playstation RPG written all over it. It feels like it takes forever to do anything between the load times and the encounter rate, and the whole drawing cards out of monsters reminds me a lot of FFVIII. The environments also feel like they could have been done better, perhaps with an isometric perspective, and instead I felt like I was getting lost relying on the lovely perspective and camera controls. It clearly has some good drama and comedy in it, but it all depends on how willing you are to play something from the dark ages. On the other hand, the loads aren't any worse than P3/4, but playing Nocturne is a breeze compared to them. The battles play out like Phantasy Star, although there is an auto battle option. I don't really know why you'd use it unless the battle happens to be a total joke, though.
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Sep 9, 2011 23:30
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PunkBoy posted:I don't think I would mind a simple Jack Frost shirt. The ones they did make are also sold out everywhere though  (as well as the Black Frost one)Happy Blue Cow posted:
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Sep 9, 2011 23:46
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Where can I get this t-shirt. Please tell me I can get this somewhere.
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After a bit of searching, it looks like you can get it on Play-Asia (with a Japanese version of Persona 4). It only comes in XL though, which kinda sucks. vv Oh poo poo, sorry about that.
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Sep 9, 2011 23:50
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Looks like Play-Asia says it's out of print though, unless I'm looking at the wrong one. You got my hopes up for a moment there. 
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Sep 9, 2011 23:55
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The t-shirt and a Kuma plushie were the Persona 4 Konamistyle package. Kind of underwhelming when you look at the Persona 3 FES Konamistyle package came with a leather Moonlight Academy messenger bag, a crystal Thanatos statue, an enhanced CD with music, wallpapers, a screensaver, and voice clips from the game, and an authentic Special Extracurricular Execute Sector armband. The P3FES package had the ATH-EM700 headphones, though, with the Moonlight Academy logo on them. Super nice. Katsudon posted:Looks like Play-Asia says it's out of print though, unless I'm looking at the wrong one. Konamistyle packages are always pre-order only, I doubt if you could ever find one after it's released. I ordered my P4 konamistyle package from yesasia (I think?), so I could choose what size shirt I got.
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Dragonatrix posted:After a bit of searching, it looks like you can get it on Play-Asia (with a Japanese version of Persona 4). It only comes in XL though, which kinda sucks. VV Oh my bad. It's just that post and this social link expansion pack on Amazon gave me the impression that Atlus just makes XL shirts. VV Aquans fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Sep 10, 2011 |
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Sep 10, 2011 00:20
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Aquans posted:Yeah, that's why I felt a little bit better about P3P coming with a hat, because Atlus seems to think all of their fans are huge. The shirt came in multiple sizes; I picked a Medium. PlayAsia just didn't let people specify shirt size for this particular order.
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FINALmasa posted:Yeah, I've played a bit of Persona 2, and it has Playstation RPG written all over it. It feels like it takes forever to do anything between the load times and the encounter rate, and the whole drawing cards out of monsters reminds me a lot of FFVIII. The environments also feel like they could have been done better, perhaps with an isometric perspective, and instead I felt like I was getting lost relying on the lovely perspective and camera controls. It clearly has some good drama and comedy in it, but it all depends on how willing you are to play something from the dark ages. Most battles can and should be taken care of with one shot with a fusion spell. If you're not glancing at the Analyze menu and then grabbing whatever elemental fusion won't hit any strengths right off the fusion menu, you're playing Persona 2 wrong. And if you're hitting up every encounter for cards, you are ALSO doing it wrong. Hit them up when you don't feel like fighting, it's not an obligation. Contract with the most annoying demons in the dungeon and milk them for Free Tarot. You barely need to summon any new Personas in IS anyway, Philemon hands them out like candy. I think...Pixie, Hel, Tsukuyomi should get you through the entire game, if you're sure to make Phil hand you upgrades. (EP you need to switch much more often, yeah) I'd seriously call P3 more grindy than P2. Just be sensible about what you do and don't give in to gamer OCD.
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Sep 10, 2011 00:50
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I guess I played P2 wrong then because my priority was getting the advanced persona while holding myself over with any Persona I got from cards until I got them. Then I just went through the game wrecking poo poo with the advanced Persona.
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Sep 10, 2011 00:54
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After Koudelka, I promised myself I would never try a new PSX era JRPG again because of their loading times and encounter rates, but I'm making an exception for Persona 2.  Katsudon posted:Same here. There are these, though! (Borrowed from the Atlus D shop)      
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Sep 10, 2011 02:16
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Oh god those mugs are just the cutest things. Raiho!  Definitely want at least one of those.
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Sep 10, 2011 06:05
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HD version of the recent trailer for Mayonaka Arena. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWHKTnDNOpg
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Sep 10, 2011 07:13
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FULLMETAL SISTER COMPLEX GANG LEADER 
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Sep 10, 2011 07:26
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Rinkles posted:HD version of the recent trailer for Mayonaka Arena. For some reason, I really love that Chie actually has God Hand as a move.
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Sep 10, 2011 10:22
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Well there is no move better than a giant fist coming from the sky.
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Sep 10, 2011 11:52
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Justice posted:FULLMETAL SISTER COMPLEX GANG LEADER Is Chie's something like "Meat eating dumped girl?"
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Sep 10, 2011 11:53
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Apparently the MC in that fighting game universe is a dick as nobody has their evolved personas. And Aigis feels to unbelievably tacked on, hopefully there's more P3 guys in the game outside of the dumb robot.
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Sep 10, 2011 17:32
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Near the end of the trailer with the multiple screens, you can see Kanji wielding a folding chair. 
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Radish posted:Is Chie's something like "Meat eating dumped girl?" "Carnivore beast who cast away her femininity" None of the characters seem pleased with their assigned titles, though.
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Sep 10, 2011 18:06
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Yosuke's is Captain Ressentiment. Also, I like how they basically just took the Japanese memes about the main character and made them official.
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Rondino posted:Yosuke's is Captain Ressentiment. Also, I like how they basically just took the Japanese memes about the main character and made them official. Wait, there are Persona 4 memes? 
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Sep 10, 2011 18:48
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PunkBoy posted:Wait, there are Persona 4 memes? Some beary clever ones! 
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Sep 10, 2011 19:07
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Just calling the main character banchou(gang leader/badass) and saying he has a sister complex. I dunno if they really count as "memes", but they're popular fan-given attributes for him.
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Sep 10, 2011 21:08
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Rondino posted:Just calling the main character banchou(gang leader/badass) This is because Izanagi is wearing an old-school boys uniform, unbuttoned, which gives him the appearance of a stereotypical Japanese delinquent (or a male cheerleader  ). The 'Hagane' title also refers to Izanagi's metal body.
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Alteisen posted:And Aigis feels to unbelievably tacked on, hopefully there's more P3 guys in the game outside of the dumb robot. P3P FemC! 
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Sep 10, 2011 22:59
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Is there ever a way to regain MP during a battle in Devil Survivor?
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Fooley posted:Is there ever a way to regain MP during a battle in Devil Survivor? Yes. Most effective: The Drain spell. Crack that poo poo ASAP. Drain is ridiculously, insanely, crazy broken. Give it to any demon that uses MP. Second most effective: A Tyrant-class demon will replenish a ton of MP after a fight. Third most effective: Cracked skills which can replenish 10% or 30% of your MP after a fight. Victory Cry if it is still around. (It may not be in the 3DS version, if it is it is harder to get.) Beyond that you've got Blood Wine and Sacrifice such, but those three give you roughly infinite MP.
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Fooley posted:Is there ever a way to regain MP during a battle in Devil Survivor? Learn Drain, it's actually a very-useful attack move if you have a high Magic stat. There are also species abilities like "Sacrifice" and "Tyranny" that will recover some.
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Sep 11, 2011 02:47
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Also Divine-type demons' skill 'Blood Wine'
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Fooley posted:Is there ever a way to regain MP during a battle in Devil Survivor? Divine demons can use their racial ability to sacrifice health to recover MP for the whole team. Tyrant demons gain HP and MP after every engagement. I think those are the only ways. Edit: both beaten and wrong.
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Sep 11, 2011 02:48
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Drain is insane on the MC with a super high magic. Why yes I do enjoy taking 300 hp and 200mp and restoring myself to full and leaving the enemy defenseless.
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Sep 11, 2011 03:22
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I'm trying to avoid information on Persona 2: Innocent Sin, since the PSP release'll be be my first time playing, but Siliconera had an article title I couldn't resist: Nothing Charms Demons Like Motorcycle Noises Well, it's already a preorder for me, but now I feel cemented in the awesomeness of that choice.
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Sep 11, 2011 03:58
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Is there a spoiler-free list of all of the new stuff added to Persona 2: IS? Any new personae?
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Speaking of Devil Survivor, Dual Shadow is so hilarious broken in combination with Drain and Holy Dance. I mean I took out the 8th day boss for Naoyas route in two battle rounds with dual shadow proc'ing off Holy Dance both times. For the people who've played the sequel, did they tone down magic at all? I know reading up on some stuff they made Phys viable (which is great) but nothing really on magic.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Speaking of Devil Survivor, Dual Shadow is so hilarious broken in combination with Drain and Holy Dance. I mean I took out the 8th day boss for Naoyas route in two battle rounds with dual shadow proc'ing off Holy Dance both times. Physical's pretty okay in Overclocked, you just kinda have to build it around Multi-Attack. Once you do that, though, it's a one way ticket to attacking every enemy 7 times and probably healing yourself to full every time you do it.
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