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If you don't count the Snow Queen Quest (which took grinding to a new extreme but most people won't care to play it) I think I had to grind once in Persona 1 before the last boss. I know it's cool to hate on that game and all but if you can find it for $20 and you like JRPGs it's a good buy. I also agree that contacting demons once to get their card is a much better system than contact grinding for cards in Persona 2.
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I really wish they hadn't redone Persona's music completely because I really liked the original's soundtrack a lot. It was very atmospheric and set the mood well for the game. I haven't tried the remake but I really don't care for the P3 style music used in the P1 setting (I like P3's music so don't get the wrong idea). The sounds guys make when you hit them in P1 is great too and I liked the Persona sound effect. Maybe I'll beat the game one day. Dolphin Fetus fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Sep 14, 2011 |
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Sep 14, 2011 12:05
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Ambrotos posted:bit posted:The 6(!) different paths are all explained pretty well here. Massive spoilers obviously. Ahh, alright, thank you. I'll have to read through that after beating the game.
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Sep 14, 2011 13:08
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Armor-Piercing posted:Sony pre-TGS press conference just ended, and in the list of games/franchises expected to be on Vita within a year of launching, one of the entries was Shin Megami Tensei. Speculation time! Isn't that going to be the P4 remake?
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Dolphin Fetus posted:I really wish they hadn't redone Persona's music completely because I really liked the original's soundtrack a lot. It was very atmospheric and set the mood well for the game. I haven't tried the remake but I really don't care for the P3 style music used in the P1 setting (I like P3's music so don't get the wrong idea). The sounds guys make when you hit them in P1 is great too and I liked the Persona sound effect. Maybe I'll beat the game one day. Agreeing with this, what little I played from the original had some neat gothic tracks, very in tune with typical SMT, the new pop music for P1 just doesn't fit to well.
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Sep 14, 2011 13:21
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I prefer P2's card system over P1, simply because of the existence of Free Tarots. Free Tarots ensure that at any given point in the game, you are free and clear to make any persona you want. In fact, you should generally have way more Free Tarots than any other kind of card (I maxed out 999 at one point in IS or EP I think). And since Igor lists what personae are available, you have an easy shopping cart to peruse to find what best suits your character or the situation. And given how useful the personae straight up given to you for free by Philemon, much of this "grinding" is a moot point anyway! In P1, you better pray that whatever random demons you have in your current area, they are juuuuuuust the right ones you need to fuse. There's a very real danger to find yourself with an inadequately constructed team, but guess what? You're hosed because the demons around you either are too strong to talk to or the cards they give are completely useless. Better hope you have a FAQ on hand to ensure you don't completely gimp yourself with no way of proceeding through the game anymore, which is actually quite easy to accomplish given how a lot of enemies are immune to all but one kind of attack (and some will straight up instant kill your whole party if you don't have a specific resistance).
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Am I the only one who said gently caress PERSONAS and just used charm bullets on everyone to beat most of Persona 1? More like Gunsona.
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Agnostic watermelon posted:Isn't that going to be the P4 remake?
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Alteisen posted:Agreeing with this, what little I played from the original had some neat gothic tracks, very in tune with typical SMT, the new pop music for P1 just doesn't fit to well. The music is the change I didn't really care for in the P1 re-release and I would have like to have a classic soundtrack option.
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Dolphin Fetus posted:I really wish they hadn't redone Persona's music completely because I really liked the original's soundtrack a lot. It was very atmospheric and set the mood well for the game. I haven't tried the remake but I really don't care for the P3 style music used in the P1 setting (I like P3's music so don't get the wrong idea). The sounds guys make when you hit them in P1 is great too and I liked the Persona sound effect. Maybe I'll beat the game one day. The biggest problem about the new soundtrack is that it only has like a quarter of the songs from the original, so you constantly hear the same couple of tracks over and over and over, even if they're wildly inappropriate for the current scene. Compare and contrast: Visiting Maki at the hospital (Playstation) and visiting Maki at the hospital (PSP). Edit The new Deva Yuga song is one of the biggest travesties when compared to the source material. I guess the new version isn't bad by itself, but compared to the original... TurnipFritter fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Sep 14, 2011 |
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I would literally pay cash money for DLC that allowed you to use the original OST.
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TurnipFritter posted:The biggest problem about the new soundtrack is that it only has like a quarter of the songs from the original, so you constantly hear the same couple of tracks over and over and over, even if they're wildly inappropriate for the current scene. Compare and contrast: Whoa, they certainly did change a lot... Glad I still have my old ps1 copy around somewhere. I never really understood the P1 hate, I really liked their take on localization. Compared to P2 it was way easier to play also. I kinda want the P2 release though because I never did finish that one.
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Sep 14, 2011 19:44
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Xlyfindel posted:I really liked their take on localization.
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Sep 14, 2011 19:51
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I took the plunge and ordered a copy of Nocturne (or Lucifer's Call as it's known here). Considering that my only SMT experience is with Persona 4, which as I understand it is considerably easier than the main series, I'm a little apprehensive.
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Dr Snofeld posted:I took the plunge and ordered a copy of Nocturne (or Lucifer's Call as it's known here). Considering that my only SMT experience is with Persona 4, which as I understand it is considerably easier than the main series, I'm a little apprehensive. Hey, buddy! You and I are in the same boat. I've played P3, P4, and Devil Survivor, but I've put off Nocturne all these years. For some reason, though, I just ordered a copy to torture myself during this, The Season of Best Games.
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I just played through Nocturne for the first time a few months back and to be honest I didn't find it as hard as everyone led me to believe. It's certainly not an easy game by any stretch, but once I learned that buffs/debuffs were necessary and I started custom tailoring my demons to fit the situation (as opposed to just keeping my favorites all the time) I had a pretty smooth ride. Also, you can always break the game with Daisoujou if you're still having trouble.
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Also, I suppose Matador wasn't as bad as I had heard. On my second try, after using all of my Beads and Bead Chains, I managed to defeat him with just my main character left.
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I'm slowly making my way through Nocturne (on normal), I beat Matador on my 2nd try without much trouble. "Without much trouble" being losing both my Shiisa and Sudama, and finishing it off with about 30 health. But my plan worked out.
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Magikoopa189 posted:Also, I suppose Matador wasn't as bad as I had heard. On my second try, after using all of my Beads and Bead Chains, I managed to defeat him with just my main character left. You can create a party that can kill him in 10 press turns, less if you get a crit on him, Matador's the dude that teaches you the hardway to prepare properly for most encounters. Thing is that with the demons you create for the matador fight, you can just keep fusing and re-fusing them as they fall back in levels and never have to worry about anything again.
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Magikoopa189 posted:Also, I suppose Matador wasn't as bad as I had heard. On my second try, after using all of my Beads and Bead Chains, I managed to defeat him with just my main character left. Really, from what I've come to understand, Matador isn't really a ridiculously impossible boss as he is the first major roadblock, so he winds up being really memorable.
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King of Solomon posted:Really, from what I've come to understand, Matador isn't really a ridiculously impossible boss as he is the first major roadblock, so he winds up being really memorable. I had way more trouble with Dante because for about 5 straight fights my taunt+focus+lunge would miss on the killing blow and he would come back with some dumb one-shot MC kill.
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King of Solomon posted:Really, from what I've come to understand, Matador isn't really a ridiculously impossible boss as he is the first major roadblock, so he winds up being really memorable. I came across him and the first time I fought him he slayed me so bad that when the game over screen popped up I'm like "Oh I'm supposed to win that one?"  But just fusing a couple of force resistant demons did the trick
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TurnipFritter posted:Edit What the poo poo, travesty indeed the original makes the new version sound like balls. Some tracks on the new OST are cool and all but I could never listen to them more than maybe 3 times without growing tired and just wanting to take them off my ipod, save for a few. This track in particular was one of the ones I really didn't care for but I am digging the hell out of the original. I had no idea the original OST was this much better, christ.
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Out of all the things in the new OST, the new Deva Yuga theme was a solid improvement. Personally i just wish they had remade Kandori's theme.
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This is why the PSX version of Persona 1 had the best localization, in my opinion: Mega spoilers of course, so be warned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0t5Ose4pAg I'll kill you slow!
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Footage of P4 Mayonaka Arena http://www.4gamer.net/games/139/G013961/20110915020/
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Unlimited folding chairs  more videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVTzBLiOEE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV-zV_N-7fQ see you tomorrow fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Sep 15, 2011 |
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nachos posted:I had way more trouble with Dante because for about 5 straight fights my taunt+focus+lunge would miss on the killing blow and he would come back with some dumb one-shot MC kill. 
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ThePhenomenalBaby posted:Footage of P4 Mayonaka Arena Man I hope they do one of these for Perona 1+2. Axes and bows and guns and so on.
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I really don't know what to think of Ultimate. On one hand it looks like it has its own thing going for it (Which is good), but on the other I am just largely bored by the gameplay I've seen. I dunno, I should probably wait to get better quality gameplay before I judge too much.
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Baalster posted:I really don't know what to think of Ultimate. On one hand it looks like it has its own thing going for it (Which is good), but on the other I am just largely bored by the gameplay I've seen. I dunno, I should probably wait to get better quality gameplay before I judge too much. It's hard to judge a fighting game by watching it I think, I mean at least for me in this case. What matters to me in this game is that it plays closer to GG than BB I think but I don't know if I'll be able to really tell from watching people play. I think I'll need to hear opinions of GG/BB players or get my hands on it myself. I will say that from what I saw last night I was a little underwhelmed. Bottom line I'll end up buying it and playing it for sure, I just hope I like it enough to be one of my main games.
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Does anyone know how long P3P will be on sale from the Playstation Store? Will saves from a disc copy will function with the downloadable version?
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Desty posted:Will saves from a disc copy will function with the downloadable version? Yup, they should.
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I hope there's a Junes stage. I love Blaz Blue, so I've got high hopes for this game. 
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My copy of Lucifer's Call (Nocturne) arrived. The short walkthrough at the back of the manual happily tells you never to get rid of Pixie, but you can fuse her, right? How does fusion work in this one as compared to P4? Is skill inheritance weighted like that game or is it random?
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Dr Snofeld posted:My copy of Lucifer's Call (Nocturne) arrived. The short walkthrough at the back of the manual happily tells you never to get rid of Pixie, but you can fuse her, right? You can fuse her but do not sacrifice fuse her or any monster she is fused into. As long as she is still around in some form you'll be fine.
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Is it worth it to keep Pixie to the end of the game? I heard about some bonus demon...?
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Magikoopa189 posted:Is it worth it to keep Pixie to the end of the game? I heard about some bonus demon...? If you retain Pixie or something she has fused into until near to the end of the game and do a portion of the bonus dungeon you will get a Pixie with insanely high stats and powerful skills. It is far from necessary but a fun extra.
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Dolphin Fetus posted:This is why the PSX version of Persona 1 had the best localization, in my opinion: Ahahaha, I really want to find that game now. ~*memories*~ Magikoopa189 posted:Is it worth it to keep Pixie to the end of the game? I heard about some bonus demon...? It isn't that hard to do, and the reward is pretty nice. I don't think keeping her around is neccesarry to finish the game, but if you're a completionist like most rpg players I know you'll definitely want to do it. Also, I can already tell I am going to play the poo poo out of Ultimate. GG is boss as hell and I thought the first BB was really fun. edit: I think the backgrounds look really freakin nice too. Xlyfindel fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Sep 15, 2011 |
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Magikoopa189 posted:Is it worth it to keep Pixie to the end of the game? I heard about some bonus demon...? It's not really even a question of whether the effort is worth it because you can just fuse her whenever her current form stops being useful. Just never sacrifice or dismiss the demon at the top of your list.
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