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Here's a blog post with some recommended Henry matches. Haven't seen them so I can't personally vouch for the quality, but these guys usually know their stuff (although calling him "an elite worker" is silly).
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Wise Fwom Yo Gwave posted:After seeing someone bring up the Daniel Bryan Airplane Spin in the WWE GDT, it got me to thinking about the "Dino Bravo Airplane Spin" that's featured in the background in "Encino Man," with Gorilla Monsoon saying "Oh, it's an airplane spin, going ROUND AND ROUND." I unfortunately posed this question in the middle of a Mark Henry argument, and have since gone through a bunch of Dino Bravo jobber matches and PPV matches, and yet have not found this clip. Anyone got a clue on this one? It's a fun curiosity, but if you want to talk about him getting shot in the head seventeen times, that's all you.
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Hammond Edgar posted:I can't remember, did I make this? I've actually forgotten but remember spending a lot of time in imageready with the original.
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Sep 18, 2011 00:31
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The Duck of Death posted:Here's a blog post with some recommended Henry matches. Haven't seen them so I can't personally vouch for the quality, but these guys usually know their stuff (although calling him "an elite worker" is silly). I would agree with the 200 ECW matches, he was really good fun as ECW champion with Tony Atlas. I would also look at the matches that Henry and MVP had as a team against JeriShow and ShowMiz during that period when everyone was suddenly in a main event tag team.
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Sep 19, 2011 14:46
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Christian's promo at Night of Champions mentioned him being in the most memorable matches. This made me smarkily think of coasting off his old TLC stuff but he has been in some drat good matches. Even his Orton ones, it's overkill now but in a few years I think their matches will stand up; I remember his old feud with Jericho being good too So, what are the best Christian matches? I didn't bother with his TNA run at all but I can imagine he's had a few good runs
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Sep 19, 2011 20:37
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Christian is one of those guys who is consistently in very good matches, but doesn't get the build/spotlight where he really gets to shine.
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Sep 19, 2011 20:42
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He doesn't get to shine because he isn't actually that good.
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Sep 19, 2011 21:12
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triplexpac posted:Christian is one of those guys who is consistently in very good matches, 
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Sep 19, 2011 21:22
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MrBling posted:He doesn't get to shine because he isn't actually that good. Ah, he's good, just not blow away like some people claim. I will never get the over the top praise PSP heaps on him, to be quite honest.
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Sep 19, 2011 21:53
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Ah, he's good, just not blow away like some people claim. I will never get the over the top praise PSP heaps on him, to be quite honest. He had good matches with Zeke. He is a really great worker. Granted are less great workers in TV wrestling now than 5 years ago so it is easier to be one of the best, but he's genuinely one of the best wrestlers on the national stage.
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Sep 19, 2011 21:57
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Would I be wrong if I said Christian is a modern day Barry Windham?
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Sep 19, 2011 22:10
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So what are his top 5 singles matches, any promotion?
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Sep 19, 2011 22:29
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Christian can have a good to great match with pretty much everyone, I always liked him but didn't think that much of him wrestling wise till he came back from TNA - he seems to have only improved with age, he's really good at getting the best out of his opponent. Yet another reason I miss ECW 
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Sep 19, 2011 22:30
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Jerusalem posted:Christian can have a good to great match with pretty much everyone, I always liked him but didn't think that much of him wrestling wise till he came back from TNA - he seems to have only improved with age, he's really good at getting the best out of his opponent. Hey remember when Christian lost the title to Zeke on the very last ECW for seemingly no reason? That was pretty awesome.
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Sep 19, 2011 22:35
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ZoDiAC_ posted:So what are his top 5 singles matches, any promotion?
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Sep 19, 2011 22:47
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ChampRamp posted:Would I be wrong if I said Christian is a modern day Barry Windham? Absolutely. What held Windham back from being an all-time great (we can laugh now, but in the 80s, he was on that track) was the fact that he just outright stopped giving a poo poo. I don't think Christian ever has, let alone to the extent Windham did.
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ZoDiAC_ posted:So what are his top 5 singles matches, any promotion?
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tzirean posted:Absolutely. What held Windham back from being an all-time great (we can laugh now, but in the 80s, he was on that track) was the fact that he just outright stopped giving a poo poo. I don't think Christian ever has, let alone to the extent Windham did. Well, it's not the lack of caring comparison I was aiming for. I was trying to say no matter how great of a match Windham put on, he never came out as a superstar. Yes, partially because he didn't care, but he didn't have the superstar potential and neither does Christian. I feel like I should have stayed away from the comparison now.
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ZoDiAC_ posted:So what are his top 5 singles matches, any promotion? This is the thing about Christian as a singles competitor, none of his matches really truly stands out as THE Christian match. This sounds like an insult/a bad thing - but it's because the sheer quality of his matches is always so high. He ALWAYS delivers, if you see Christian in a match you know that no matter who his opponent is, he is going to get the best possible match he can out of them. I mean it's been said already, but he got good quality matches out of Zeke. ZEKE! Probably his Ladder Match with Del Rio is the most emotional/big feeling match he's been in - but really, just look at any Christian match since he returned to ECW and you're pretty much seeing quality loving wrestling.
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Sep 20, 2011 00:52
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ZoDiAC_ posted:So what are his top 5 singles matches, any promotion? Christian had a column on Gametap a few years ago for some reason where he told a story about a time he and Samoa Joe were playing a video game with Joe in the lead, taunting him the entire time. Then Christian won at the last second and Samoa Joe quietly turned off his console and wept.
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Sep 20, 2011 01:09
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Oatgan posted:Hey remember when Christian lost the title to Zeke on the very last ECW for seemingly no reason? That was pretty awesome. I've never understood why people got so mad at this. The title fell into a bottomless pit 3 minutes after the match ended. Who cares.
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Jerusalem posted:Probably his Ladder Match with Del Rio is the most emotional/big feeling match he's been in - but really, just look at any Christian match since he returned to ECW and you're pretty much seeing quality loving wrestling.
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Sep 20, 2011 03:39
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Atticus Finch posted:It's also one of the few ladder matches in recent WWE history with really good psychology. The last one I can think of is the Jericho/Michaels one, but if you didn't expect those two to put on the best ladder match ever, then I don't know. Maybe you should watch bowling instead?
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Sep 20, 2011 04:11
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Christian will have a good match with that bowling ball.
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Atticus Finch posted:Christian will have a good match with that bowling ball. And the bowling ball will win.
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ChampRamp posted:Well, it's not the lack of caring comparison I was aiming for. I was trying to say no matter how great of a match Windham put on, he never came out as a superstar. Oh yes he did. Windham could and should have been a huge star, but he married someone with money and stopped giving a poo poo after that because he wasn't as hungry, and because Flair refused to job the title to him before he left for WWE in the early 90s. Barry got huge reactions as a babyface challenging Flair in the 80s, though.
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Sep 20, 2011 04:39
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Chilly McFreeze posted:I've never understood why people got so mad at this. The title fell into a bottomless pit 3 minutes after the match ended. Who cares. So Abyss has it now?
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Maxwell Lord posted:So Abyss has it now? This would make Abyss the most accomplished wrestler to never work for the WWE. WWE Championship *and* WWE HOF ring!
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Flameingblack posted:The only matches that stand out to me are gimmick matches, like the 8-Mile Streetfight/Barbedwire Cage match or the TLC/Ladder matches. Vanilla Christian doesn't do it for me at all. He's just around. I don't know how people can have this opinion. Christian just finished a series of matches with Orton where almost every time they were in the ring they were the best that night. Every time they wrestled I went into it thinking "oh god, another Christian & Orton match??" and by the end I was totally into it. It ain't just Orton pulling that off.
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Sep 20, 2011 14:12
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triplexpac posted:I don't know how people can have this opinion. Christian just finished a series of matches with Orton where almost every time they were in the ring they were the best that night.
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Sep 20, 2011 14:17
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Flameingblack posted:Not everyone has to like Christian. Not everyone has to like my favorite wrestler (Kota Ibushi), either. Just opinions. I know they don't have to like Christian, but thinking he's "just around" seems... wrong to me. When I think of dudes that are "just around" I think of Riley. Mason Ryan. Mitch from the Spirit Squad (okay not really but I was trying to think of the most forgettable wrestler ever). From a pure match quality standpoint, which is what we seem to be debating, I don't think you can argue that guys like that are above average at putting a match together and working in the ring. Even if you don't like Christian, I don't see how you can argue that he is average in the ring.
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triplexpac posted:I know they don't have to like Christian, but thinking he's "just around" seems... wrong to me. When I think of dudes that are "just around" I think of Riley. Mason Ryan. Mitch from the Spirit Squad (okay not really but I was trying to think of the most forgettable wrestler ever). to me I feel I need to stress that point because Christian fans are rapid, and they'll attack anyone who doesn't agree that he's the greatest thing. I just never bought into internet hype. I'm not a fan of Zack Ryder, and I wasn't a fan of Bryan Danielson (Until just recently in his WWE run)
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Flameingblack posted:Since I don't watch Smackdown a ton and skip their main events at PPVs, Christian really does seem like he's "Just around" in the same sense Alberto Del Rio is. If not for Ricardo and the cars, Del Rio wouldn't be a big deal at all. I feel like that's Christian to me. He's a main event star who can put on good matches, but there's not a lot of depth to his character, he's just kind of plain to me. Just a thought: Maybe he wouldn't just be 'there' to you if you actually watched something that he was in.
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Flameingblack posted:Since I don't watch Smackdown a ton and skip their main events at PPVs, Christian really does seem like he's "Just around" in the same sense Alberto Del Rio is. If not for Ricardo and the cars, Del Rio wouldn't be a big deal at all. I feel like that's Christian to me. He's a main event star who can put on good matches, but there's not a lot of depth to his character, he's just kind of plain to me. Wrestling is pretty subjective, but I don't think you can really make a judgment on the quality of someone's matches if you admittedly "Skip their main events at PPVs."
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Sep 20, 2011 15:13
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Even the most stout of Christian fans won't be mad at you for disliking his current character though. The whole Lawyer thing has been lame, its much better when he is just a douche that rips on people.
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Sep 20, 2011 15:15
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Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:Wrestling is pretty subjective, but I don't think you can really make a judgment on the quality of someone's matches if you admittedly "Skip their main events at PPVs."
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First of all, I don't really have any issues with Cena, he works really hard, just with the way he's booked, and I'm hardly vocal about that. Second of all, I'm just going by the fact that you said you skip over the Smackdown main events. For all you know, he could have came into his own as a performer over the last year, just like Mark Henry did this summer. If you based your opinion of the Undertaker on the first 13 years of his career, you'd think he loving sucked.
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You're not going to convince me to join the Christian bandwagon. It's not happening.
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MrBling posted:He doesn't get to shine because he isn't actually that good. He's good at having a Christian Match and then he goes out there and has that same match with everyone *hits post with shoulder *stares at lights
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