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Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

Life, friends, is boring

Jock Mocken posted:

I watched almost all of them (except for Chris Brown/Tyga and the no-names, but I might go back once I recover from seeing that drat Drake ad so many times) and I have to say Busta killed it. He was actually going off the dome and having a blast while doing it and I'm pretty sure went longer than anybody except the Shady 2.0 dudes. Overall a pretty good group this year, I also liked Kendrick Lamar, KRIT, and 2 Chainz a lot. But yeah, gently caress Machine Gun Kelly
I thought 2 Chainz was amazing. It sounded so....effortlessly. Is that a good word for it? I don't know, I just really, really liked it.

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RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Jesus Christ, Busta looks terrible.

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

RCarr posted:

Jesus Christ, Busta looks terrible.

I was going to say "what the gently caress do you expect, he's got to be 50-55 years old," but then I looked him up on wikipedia and he's not even 40 yet. So yeah.

E.T. NO HOMO
Jan 27, 2007

but you say he's
just a friend

NotWearingPants posted:

I was going to say "what the gently caress do you expect, he's got to be 50-55 years old," but then I looked him up on wikipedia and he's not even 40 yet. So yeah.

thats more shocking to me than how bloated and weird he looked i thought he was at least 45 for sure

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Is Rick Ross dying? What the gently caress, 2 seizures on 2 planes in 1 day. At least push up the date of that album if you're planning on peacing out before Thanksgiving.

chopper city
May 30, 2009

you in the choppa zone
where choppas is a must

doctor thodt posted:

Is Rick Ross dying? What the gently caress, 2 seizures on 2 planes in 1 day. At least push up the date of that album if you're planning on peacing out before Thanksgiving.

I've heard the stresses of a prison environment can age a man artifically but this is ridiculous A WHOA WHOA OH WHOAAAA

http://youtu.be/sGWIsf1wGB4

Lil B would be so dope if he made half an effort to at least fake rhyme some of these lines. I think he does it on purpose to piss me off. The beat is sick

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


Everyone post some stuff from the early years of your city's/a city's rap scene. Bonus points if it's not from LA or NYC (cuz we all know their poo poo already).

Here's some SF from 1988-1992:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO1qw1QnqdM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zya-qzzsTTY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3RMm8gs1r4 (edit: San Quinn was only 14 when he recorded this)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2TY9ZqUGLg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_p7L0eJfKI

Rah! fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Oct 16, 2011

Housh
Jul 9, 2001




doctor thodt posted:

Is Rick Ross dying? What the gently caress, 2 seizures on 2 planes in 1 day. At least push up the date of that album if you're planning on peacing out before Thanksgiving.
No way. Post mortem release would make the label sooooo much money.

Svartvit
Jun 18, 2005

al-Qabila samaa Bahth

Rah! posted:

Everyone post some stuff from the early years of your city's/a city's rap scene. Bonus points if it's not from LA or NYC (cuz we all know their poo poo already).

Here's some SF from 1988-1992:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO1qw1QnqdM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zya-qzzsTTY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3RMm8gs1r4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2TY9ZqUGLg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_p7L0eJfKI

Stockholm: Rob'n'Raz feat. Leila K - In Command (ca 1990)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7nobPPLIPA

Try to top that, QB! :colbert:

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


Svartvit posted:

Stockholm: Rob'n'Raz feat. Leila K - In Command (ca 1990)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7nobPPLIPA

Try to top that, QB! :colbert:

So Swedish rap from 1990 is actually eurodance? But it has some bitchin rhymes and it ain't NY or LA, so true to my word, you get extra points.

Here's some OG 1985 Oakland poo poo from Too Short, the grand daddy of Bay Area rap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXFd-wBv-8

And some early 90s Oakland:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvXnb12QaLY&feature=related

Must Love Dogs
May 6, 2005

and the sky is filled with light can you see it?

Lowkey's most recent album comes out tomorrow. He's pretty solid political hip hop from the UK, and this is the most recent video released in support of the album Soundtrack to the Struggle...

Hand On Your Gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBNeD57-RVg

Here's another couple of music videos for songs on the album.

Long Live Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p1CJwTNC9M

Terrorist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU

Obama Nation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4OI0GUCI_A

And Lowkey doing Charlie Sloth's Fire in the Booth on 1XTRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhrYQrLBiTQ

If you like left-wing politics and good political hip hop, take a look.

Must Love Dogs fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Oct 16, 2011

maniacripper
May 3, 2009
STANNIS BURNS SHIREEN
HIZDAR IS THE HARPY
JON GETS STABBED TO DEATH
DANY FLIES OFF ON DROGON

Must Love Dogs posted:


Hand On Your Gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBNeD57-RVg

This beat is loving sick, the rapper is pretty good too.

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


maniacripper posted:

This beat is loving sick, the rapper is pretty good too.

I agree. I saw "political hip hop" and was getting ready for something potentially horrible...but he has some good poo poo.

Here's another by Lowkey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN4eySlToGw&feature=related

love that beat. Nice flow, hook and video too.

Must Love Dogs
May 6, 2005

and the sky is filled with light can you see it?

Yeah it's political hip hop in the tradition of Public Enemy, where it's musically outstanding with a message in the lyrics.

This is probably my favorite song of the album right now.

Blood Sweat and Tears, featuring Klashnekoff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyI3XzSr-OM

WHOLE DIK AND NUTS
Aug 18, 2011

by Duchess Gummybuns
That new Riff Raff freestyle is hard as poo poo...does coke and kills the beat

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh1VgRm3h7727O73fG

aniero
Oct 11, 2009

Digging the poo poo out of Lowkey!

Thought I'd add some to the mix

Otayo Dubb - Dippin Slow ft Balance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u_V73iiEmA

La - Diamonds feat Prometheus Brown and Bambu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsaI5hfBloY

Nacho Picasso - Marvel (A must for all comic book fans) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IUiv4Q3LRc

chopper city
May 30, 2009

you in the choppa zone
where choppas is a must

Rah! posted:

I agree. I saw "political hip hop" and was getting ready for something potentially horrible...but he has some good poo poo.

So fuckin true, I think basically only Lowkey and Dead Prez are the only good political hip hop ever, someone correct me.

http://youtu.be/ALNF_DCg6VU

Just found out stic man made an album all about working out haha
http://youtu.be/8M_Mt1pwkvw
"im tryna do a million crunches, a billion pushups and probaly throw a trillion punches"

chopper city fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Oct 16, 2011

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


aniero posted:

Otayo Dubb - Dippin Slow ft Balance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u_V73iiEmA

Nice, here's some more Otayo Dubb, with Bored Stiff and Z-Man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10-yctITMjk

Pimp Cauldron
Aug 3, 2002

A twisted pictoral of phoenix, AZ

Must Love Dogs posted:

Hand On Your Gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBNeD57-RVg

just gonna share this because the original is pretty cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rcfOuaEmOE

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

WHOLE DIK AND NUTS posted:

That new Riff Raff freestyle is hard as poo poo...does coke and kills the beat

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh1VgRm3h7727O73fG

Omg riff raff should have the million dollar interscope album, gently caress yelawolf and gently caress this industry

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

chopper city posted:

So fuckin true, I think basically only Lowkey and Dead Prez are the only good political hip hop ever, someone correct me.

http://youtu.be/ALNF_DCg6VU


IM YELLING "THE COUP" REALLY LOUDLY

Must Love Dogs
May 6, 2005

and the sky is filled with light can you see it?

the black husserl posted:

IM YELLING "THE COUP" REALLY LOUDLY

And let's not forget Public Enemy.

metavisual
Sep 6, 2007

I've going nuts trying to find a particular song. I figured I might as well ask my friendly neighborhood goon rap thread since I've been turned on to so much good stuff through this thread.

I seem to remember a song that uses the same sample from "ain't no love in the heart of the city" as Jay Z.

I also remember it being a group track for some reason. Multiple guys rapping.

I could be totally nuts here and it be all just be from some wacked out fever dream or something, but I can almost hear the lyrics...but not quite.

It's so hard to search for a song without any lyrics. Looking at all the "who sampled" sites, etc, has come up empty.

any ideas?

high on life and meth
Jul 14, 2006

Fika
Rules
Everything
Around
Me

metavisual posted:

any ideas?

Not the most helpful answer I'm sure, but could've been a freestyle on a mixtape or something? I was listening to Mobb Deep the other day and I was like ayo where's the part where they go "I been off the deep end since I was semen / that's why now, I'm such a motherfucking demon" until i remembered that DMX used that beat on a Funk Flex tape. Not sure how I got that mixed up but it happens.

(That was 60 Minutes of Funk volume 3, which now that I think about it, had some amazing tracks. Cam'ron went hard on that.)

Roflcopter
Dec 21, 2004

The Roots released a track from their upcoming album Undun, which comes out Dec. 6.

"Make My" ft. Big K.R.I.T.

I fuckin' love the Roots, I can't wait for that album to drop

E.T. NO HOMO
Jan 27, 2007

but you say he's
just a friend

Roflcopter posted:

The Roots released a track from their upcoming album Undun, which comes out Dec. 6.

"Make My" ft. Big K.R.I.T.

I fuckin' love the Roots, I can't wait for that album to drop

the way ?uestlove talked about this new album, I can't wait for it either

Jock Mocken
Apr 7, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn

metavisual posted:

I've going nuts trying to find a particular song. I figured I might as well ask my friendly neighborhood goon rap thread since I've been turned on to so much good stuff through this thread.

I seem to remember a song that uses the same sample from "ain't no love in the heart of the city" as Jay Z.

I also remember it being a group track for some reason. Multiple guys rapping.

I could be totally nuts here and it be all just be from some wacked out fever dream or something, but I can almost hear the lyrics...but not quite.

It's so hard to search for a song without any lyrics. Looking at all the "who sampled" sites, etc, has come up empty.

any ideas?

this is the most frustrating thing ever; here's what I recommend: go through the rest of your music library on shuffle or just picking stuff out until you either find the song you're thinking of (yeah right) or get sidetracked and forget all about it. Works for me!

and drat that KRIT verse on Make My is niiiiiiice

metavisual
Sep 6, 2007

Jock Mocken posted:

this is the most frustrating thing ever; here's what I recommend: go through the rest of your music library on shuffle or just picking stuff out until you either find the song you're thinking of (yeah right) or get sidetracked and forget all about it. Works for me!

hahaha thanks! That's exactly what I've been doing!

Here's hoping.

WHOLE DIK AND NUTS
Aug 18, 2011

by Duchess Gummybuns
On that note, I heard a song that sampled 50 Cent "Many Men" in the chours "Death gotta be easy cuz life is hard" and I can't remember who did the song. I think it was just one guy, maybe two.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
I'm sure this has very little to do with the general discussion in here, but I love Childish Gambino but dislike most rap simply due to lazy, creatively uninteresting lyrics. So far I've been recommended Lil B, Wale, and J. Cole as artists with clever and/or well-written lyrics. Is this accurate? And if not, what rap does have particularly well-written lyrics?

I'd prefer if it's not straight nerdcore, but Glover certainly has his fair share of nerd references, but I'd also prefer if it's not straight gangster.

WHOLE DIK AND NUTS
Aug 18, 2011

by Duchess Gummybuns

feedmyleg posted:

I'm sure this has very little to do with the general discussion in here, but I love Childish Gambino but dislike most rap simply due to lazy, creatively uninteresting lyrics. So far I've been recommended Lil B, Wale, and J. Cole as artists with clever and/or well-written lyrics. Is this accurate? And if not, what rap does have particularly well-written lyrics?

I'd prefer if it's not straight nerdcore, but Glover certainly has his fair share of nerd references, but I'd also prefer if it's not straight gangster.

Yeah, Lil B is the way to go. His music is very inspirational, rare, and positive. He has some of the most cleverest lyrics in the game right now. Tracks like "baby Baby" "Miley Cyrus" "Woo Woo Swag" and "Paris Hilton" are lyrical masterpieces. You might want to check out Kreayshawn as well, she is the AZ to Lil B's Nas.

Incorrect Username
Feb 21, 2011

WHOLE DIK AND NUTS posted:

On that note, I heard a song that sampled 50 Cent "Many Men" in the chours "Death gotta be easy cuz life is hard" and I can't remember who did the song. I think it was just one guy, maybe two.

I'm pretty sure that was by Proof from D12, song was also called "Many Men".

I never hated D12 as much as a lot of people did but Proof's solo stuff is actually really drat good and there is a surprisingly large amount of it.

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

feedmyleg posted:

I'm sure this has very little to do with the general discussion in here, but I love Childish Gambino but dislike most rap simply due to lazy, creatively uninteresting lyrics. So far I've been recommended Lil B, Wale, and J. Cole as artists with clever and/or well-written lyrics. Is this accurate? And if not, what rap does have particularly well-written lyrics?

I'd prefer if it's not straight nerdcore, but Glover certainly has his fair share of nerd references, but I'd also prefer if it's not straight gangster.

As the previous poster said, Lil B is definite a lyrical ace if you like Child Gambino. Wale, defintely, especially his verse on "No Hands". In fact, if you're into glover, you'll probably love "No Hands".

And if you're into lyrics, there is this 10 minute Kool Keith freestyle where he actually says "lyrical" maybe 50 times. he is also one of the most famous lyricists of all time and has the great nerdcore champion album "Dr. Octagon 3030"

luckdragon
Dec 5, 2008

feedmyleg posted:

I'm sure this has very little to do with the general discussion in here, but I love Childish Gambino but dislike most rap simply due to lazy, creatively uninteresting lyrics. So far I've been recommended Lil B, Wale, and J. Cole as artists with clever and/or well-written lyrics. Is this accurate? And if not, what rap does have particularly well-written lyrics?

I'd prefer if it's not straight nerdcore, but Glover certainly has his fair share of nerd references, but I'd also prefer if it's not straight gangster.

das racist, man

K-Flow
Nov 20, 2004

feedmyleg posted:

I'm sure this has very little to do with the general discussion in here, but I love Childish Gambino but dislike most rap simply due to lazy, creatively uninteresting lyrics. So far I've been recommended Lil B, Wale, and J. Cole as artists with clever and/or well-written lyrics. Is this accurate? And if not, what rap does have particularly well-written lyrics?

I'd prefer if it's not straight nerdcore, but Glover certainly has his fair share of nerd references, but I'd also prefer if it's not straight gangster.

try tommy wright, pretty much exactly what you're looking for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx0cSdOlnPU

The Rooster
Jul 25, 2004

If you've got white people problems I feel bad for you son
I've got 99 problems but being socially privileged ain't one

feedmyleg posted:

I'm sure this has very little to do with the general discussion in here, but I love Childish Gambino but dislike most rap simply due to lazy, creatively uninteresting lyrics. So far I've been recommended Lil B, Wale, and J. Cole as artists with clever and/or well-written lyrics. Is this accurate? And if not, what rap does have particularly well-written lyrics?

I'd prefer if it's not straight nerdcore, but Glover certainly has his fair share of nerd references, but I'd also prefer if it's not straight gangster.

Can you clarify well-written? Also, why would discussing lyrical MC's be outside the general discussion here?

Jock Mocken
Apr 7, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn

feedmyleg posted:

I'm sure this has very little to do with the general discussion in here, but I love Childish Gambino but dislike most rap simply due to lazy, creatively uninteresting lyrics. So far I've been recommended Lil B, Wale, and J. Cole as artists with clever and/or well-written lyrics. Is this accurate? And if not, what rap does have particularly well-written lyrics?

I'd prefer if it's not straight nerdcore, but Glover certainly has his fair share of nerd references, but I'd also prefer if it's not straight gangster.

Nobody reads the first post. It's gonna be difficult for us to give you any recs because "lazy, creatively uninteresting lyrics" is so nebulous. What exactly do you feel is lacking in the poo poo you don't like? Content, rhyme structure, vocabulary? If it's content, know that most rap songs boil down to simple boasts at heart: it's the MC's job to make that interesting in some way. Check out the intro track off P.Dukes' last mixtape, Easy Money 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W59tssc6XT4

All the wordplay makes what's essentially a 3 minute "I'm awesome" sound, well, pretty awesome. Still, it takes a really good rapper to pull that off, so I can understand why you might find Rick Ross for instance pretty unappealing. Every song is on the exact same fake-mafia poo poo and he's really only a competent rapper at best.

I'll co-sign J. Cole and Wale. I haven't listened to Cole's album but his mixtapes were very solid. Wale's output is definitely kind of spotty but he's got a pretty good selection of good tracks. I'd say stay away from Based God for the most part; he's something of an acquired taste and pretty polarizing.

I'll go ahead and say you should check out thread favorite Big KRIT. Great production and strong lyricism with a good amount of social commentary. Start with KRIT Wuz Here.

Jock Mocken fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Oct 18, 2011

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

Incorrect Username posted:

I'm pretty sure that was by Proof from D12, song was also called "Many Men".

I never hated D12 as much as a lot of people did but Proof's solo stuff is actually really drat good and there is a surprisingly large amount of it.

Searching for Jerry Garcia is a pretty sweet album. Did people hate D12 before the abomination that was My Band/D12 World? Devil's Night was pretty dope minus every Bizarre verse and the same could be said about a bunch of their older stuff imo

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

The Rooster posted:

Can you clarify well-written? Also, why would discussing lyrical MC's be outside the general discussion here?

Oh I didn't mean outside of the scope of the thread, just outside of the current discussion. It was a way of saying "Sorry I didn't read more than a page of the thread but I have a question that I didn't see being discussed at the moment."

As for "well-written" I meant thoughtful, clever, or poetic, to a degree beyond the norm with a vocabulary beyond remedial - I understand that backpack seems to be a dirty word in most circles, but it has an appeal to me musically. I don't mind self-aggrandizing lyrics as long as there's something more to them - though it took me a while to get used to.

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. Initial listens are proving fruitful.

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Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
KRIT's the truth. I don't want to gush too much but he's seriously the best southern rapper since Aquemini era Outkast.

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