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Policenaut posted:Still really hoping it's Growlanser/Growlanser 4: Over Reloaded.
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Oh snap battle costumes are back. I have to wonder what the intensive for people who have already beaten P4 three times will be. I hope they've added something more than a few cutscenes. Girl side P3 was almost a new game even if they turned it into a visual novel with battles.
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Dec 14, 2011 17:31
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I find myself wondering where they're going to cram all this poo poo in and still leave us time for S-Links! P4 already had a pretty jam packed calendar.
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Dec 14, 2011 17:45
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Captain Oblivious posted:P4 already had a pretty jam packed calendar. It also had a month to spare, so there's plenty of time for them to stick new content in.
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Dec 14, 2011 17:54
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I'd rather they not force scenarios on me, I hated how in P3 the game forced you into situations with 0 benefit to you.
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Dec 14, 2011 17:58
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By "scenarios" and "situations" do you mean... plot progression? How is advancing the story without benefit?
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Dec 14, 2011 18:02
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Justice posted:By "scenarios" and "situations" do you mean... plot progression? How is advancing the story without benefit? I mean the summer events that had no benefit to the player beyond wasting your days, summer school was the only one that had any sort of benefit and even then it was a waste of time if you had max academics by that point.
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Dec 14, 2011 18:07
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I haven't gotten around to P4 yet (waiting for The Golden) but I always hated the "vacation" crap in P3, where you just end up blowing a week doing absolutely nothing when you could be in Tartarus or doing S-links.
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Dec 14, 2011 18:11
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Oh, like Persona 4's camping trip. It's not as if either game is particularly short on days, and even if they had chosen to forego plot events for more "free time" people would be complaining about having too much time or not enough characterization instead.
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Dec 14, 2011 18:12
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Right now my chief concern is that I love Persona to death, but I really need some games I care about to be released on the Vita aside from The Golden so I can not feel terrible about buying one. 
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Dec 14, 2011 18:17
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I didn't like the way P4 managed time. You had to choose between almost all your Social Links and training, unlike P3 where you could do both. If they changed anything, changing that would be the thing I want most.
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Dec 14, 2011 18:17
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Policenaut posted:I haven't gotten around to P4 yet (waiting for The Golden) but I always hated the "vacation" crap in P3, where you just end up blowing a week doing absolutely nothing when you could be in Tartarus or doing S-links. A more appropriate example might be Career Week in P3 or whatever it was called. Everybody in the dorm talks about it for the week leading up to it, you expect some goofy scenes to occur at the very least, maybe get to flesh out your MC a tiny bit by picking a "career path" for them... ...and then there's a 2-second cutscene and you skip a week. What?
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Dec 14, 2011 18:39
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Don't forget the hurricane, too. Persona 4 had a lot more days left over at the end of an All S. Link Max run, compared to Persona 3. Depending on how you define 'challenge' this may or may not be desirable, but to say that one game had one over on the other game and then pick an example of something that is present in both games is dumb.
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Dec 14, 2011 18:43
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Snot Man posted:A more appropriate example might be Career Week in P3 or whatever it was called. Everybody in the dorm talks about it for the week leading up to it, you expect some goofy scenes to occur at the very least, maybe get to flesh out your MC a tiny bit by picking a "career path" for them... Yeah, I have no problem with actual events but things like this were kind of disappointing. It kind of seemed that they wanted to do something for it, but didn't for time constraints or whatever. Still, they didn't really do that (at least to the degree of P3) in P4 so I doubt it will happen here.
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Dec 14, 2011 18:45
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Alteisen posted:I mean the summer events that had no benefit to the player beyond wasting your days, summer school was the only one that had any sort of benefit and even then it was a waste of time if you had max academics by that point. Yeah it always pissed me off that Mitsuru made waste a week in summer school even though I was the best student in the entire grade.
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Dec 14, 2011 18:57
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I understand the desire to put in all this stuff because this is the kind of stuff that occurs in a Japanese school year (I....think?), and I realize that it does add to characters and the setting and all that, so it would feel emptier if removed. But it feels so jarring when it's like "Yeah so we're the last line of defense between ultimate evil and our world. gently caress that, let's go camping!"
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Dec 14, 2011 19:10
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Justice posted:Oh, like Persona 4's camping trip. No. Nothing like P4's camping trip, that lasted a grand total of one day(two days?) and even provided an S.link boost with the right high stat. Being forced into swimming/volleyball/kendo for a long time and literally get nothing out of it beyond "You played volleyball all day" and then a free night was pointless, same with wasting time at summer school even if you aced the last 2 major tests. At least in P4 your teammates ask you, "hey wanna study with us?" And again, I'd hardly call those meaningless events integral to the plot and I would hadn't complained at all about more free time, I can do s-links, study, visit the movies, you know beneficial things that help me in a variety of ways. quote:Don't forget the hurricane, too. Persona 4 had a lot more days left over at the end of an All S. Link Max run, compared to Persona 3. Depending on how you define 'challenge' this may or may not be desirable, but to say that one game had one over on the other game and then pick an example of something that is present in both games is dumb. You're being purposely dense about this, the events in P3 and P4 couldn't be anymore different, more importantly, in P4 they provided a benefit. Edit: To clarify I'm not referring to events such as the summer trip in P3, that is story, I mean the ones that don't do anything. Beyond a few screens and a lost week. Alteisen fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Dec 14, 2011 |
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Dec 14, 2011 19:52
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The beach looks super gross.
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Dec 14, 2011 20:59
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Hmmm
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Dec 14, 2011 22:48
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Rinkles posted:Hmmm It's almost definitely Gungnir (PSP) at this point. Growlanser / Growlanser IV (both PSP) aren't really strategy RPGs. Next clue is being posted in the GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=455324
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Dec 14, 2011 22:52
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Rinkles posted:Hehehe  Atlus is trolling now. It's still Gungnir.Growlanser IV: Over Reloaded isn't the "fourth released" title in the Growlanser series, but the IV will throw people off. The only localized Growlanser titles were Growlanser Generations (II+III together) and Growlanser V so that would make IV: OR the third release. Gungnir is the fourth mainline game in Sting's Dept. Heaven series despite it being Episode IX. Blaze Union and Gloria Union were just spinoff games of Yggdra Union. The latest clue says "fourth release" which would be true for Gungnir when it gets released. what if they localized both games
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Dec 16, 2011 01:05
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Gyoru posted:
They'd be massive trolls if it's not Growlanser IV at this point. And it says 4th release in the series, not 4th localized release (if you really want to get technical remember half of the PSP Dept. Heaven games were ports from the DS versions, making this upcoming game the 6th or 7th(?) DH "release" here). Hopefully they've had enough fun stretching this out as far as they have, and tomorrow we get conclusive confirmation about what this is.
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Dec 16, 2011 01:23
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Atlus, you mother fuckers just tell me if it's Growlanser or not!!!!! I'm so CARE MAD
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Dec 16, 2011 01:25
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I do hope its Growlanser! I really enjoyed Growlanser Generations a lot on the PSX and I've heard the 4th is one of the best in the series.
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Dec 16, 2011 04:44
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Policenaut posted:Atlus, you mother fuckers just tell me if it's Growlanser or not!!!!! I'm so CARE MAD Growgungnir IV, coming soon from Atlus.
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Dec 16, 2011 04:56
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Is Gungnir any good? I liked Knights in the Nightmare a lot despite it getting ridiculously hard towards the end, but I wasn't particularly enamored with Sting's other games.
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Dec 16, 2011 07:33
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Dec 19, 2011 19:10
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bwahahaha Well done Atlus!
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Grozz Nuy posted:Is Gungnir any good? I liked Knights in the Nightmare a lot despite it getting ridiculously hard towards the end, but I wasn't particularly enamored with Sting's other games. I tried to like Knights in the Nightmare but found the scenery breaking thing to be wholly irritating. Sure, Sting, I'll just destroy this object in the first turn then wait until the very last turn of the battle for it to respawn and then destroy it again for another key item. 
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Dec 19, 2011 19:43
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UselessLurker posted:I tried to like Knights in the Nightmare but found the scenery breaking thing to be wholly irritating. Sure, Sting, I'll just destroy this object in the first turn then wait until the very last turn of the battle for it to respawn and then destroy it again for another key item. You can completely ignore that if you want though, you get 10x more units than you need by just playing normally. I'm not even sure you can get them all on Hard/Nightmare difficulty seeing as you get way less turns to win in. Edit: Well you definitely can't get them all on a single playthrough anyway since about 1/3 of them are unique to each main character. And besides that, there's no reason to bother doing so. Gwyrgyn Blood fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Dec 19, 2011 |
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Dec 19, 2011 19:50
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I can't imagine Atlus not announcing both games at this point. Otherwise the actual announcement is going to be a giant "gently caress you" to everyone who wanted
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If anyone was interested in purchasing the SMT: Persona 2: Innocent Sin for PSP, the price on Amazon has dropped to $19.99 with free 1-day shipping!. The free 1-day shopping is good through "December 21, 2011 at 11:59 p.m. Pacific time".
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Dec 20, 2011 08:59
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I've been contemplating the offer but I'm still waiting to find out if Atlus has their PSN sale this year again. Does anybody know how UMD and digital load times compare for the game?
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Dec 20, 2011 09:29
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This is dumb.
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Dec 21, 2011 00:50
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Oh you have to be kidding. Both box arts have pink and white!    Growlanser 4: Over Reloaded matches with the pixie's wings (the one on the left). But then you can't discount the pink cape thing behind Gungnir's logo.
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Dec 21, 2011 00:58
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The whole clue thing has become so ridiculous that it's wrapped around and become hilarious to me.
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Dec 21, 2011 01:35
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Man Growlanser's artwork is loving hideous.
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Dec 21, 2011 02:17
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Policenaut posted:Oh you have to be kidding. Both box arts have pink and white! 
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At what resolution? I'm actually kind of curious. I imagine that those Atlus people are probably trying to find matching palettes or something for those pixels at the moment and arguing about gradients or something.
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