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InitialDave posted:Yeah, get some burr walnut in there. You mean the shiny swirl stuff? I never liked it, it comes on the base models.  I like the CF trim on the SRT more. 
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It's not NEW new (it was presented at the Geneva 2011 show), but gently caress me, the Citroën Metropolis DS9 concept is sex on wheels. Weird, laid back, silky-smooth French sex with a bit of jazz in the background. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PNcuG7N9Vc Considering how close the C6 turned out to be to the original C6 Lignage concept, I have high hopes for this one. I know with 100% certainty that there is a large, hydropneumatic Citroën in my future. My current plans are for a used C6, but with some luck, perhaps a DS9 could be in the cards someday.  I hope they raise the roof line or lower the belt line just a little bit, but that's modern car design for you. Big Citroëns. You either love to hate them, or hate to love them.
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Throatwarbler posted:It's not glossy so you can tell its real wood. I don't like wood panelling on most cars so don't feel strongly about it either way but at least it wont blind you in sunlight. I'm surprised how much I like the M56, saw it a few years ago at the auto show and thought it was awesome, dont remember the interior being that classy, that door panel is amazing.
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D C posted:I'm surprised how much I like the M56, saw it a few years ago at the auto show and thought it was awesome, dont remember the interior being that classy, that door panel is amazing. Well that one only came out
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KozmoNaut posted:It looks like the kitchen cabinets in a cheap vacation home circa 1960s. Agreed its horrible. Give me the cheap plastic of the old G35 any day over poo poo like that.
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I like the Chrysler. If all those chrome accents are actual metal and not that kid's toy chromed plastic stuff, the only thing I don't like is the blue backlighting for the gauges. I don't get why everyone thinks that wood grain is less appropriate than plastic or carbon fiber on an "executive" style car.
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Raluek posted:I don't get why everyone thinks that wood grain is less appropriate than plastic or carbon fiber on an "executive" style car. I didn't hear anyone saying that. What I did hear was a rightful disdain for cheap wood trim that has been cheaply done. That Chrysler didn't look nearly as bad as some of what I've seen, but did appear pretty much lifeless and boring.
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Motronic posted:I didn't hear anyone saying that. What I did hear was a rightful disdain for cheap wood trim that has been cheaply done. That Chrysler didn't look nearly as bad as some of what I've seen, but did appear pretty much lifeless and boring. Dissss and Throatwarbler had expressed preference for plastic and CF, respectively, but yes, maybe I'm mis-reading them. Maybe the wood doesn't look dynamic enough, I think it looks fine. It's a bit plain, but it doesn't need to be ostentatious or anything. Really I just like anything that isn't plastic, which I guess anything in that class would be. It's not a market segment I patronize so maybe I'm thinking about it wrong, I admit.
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Raluek posted:Dissss and Throatwarbler had expressed preference for plastic and CF, respectively, but yes, maybe I'm mis-reading them. Maybe the wood doesn't look dynamic enough, I think it looks fine. It's a bit plain, but it doesn't need to be ostentatious or anything. Really I just like anything that isn't plastic, which I guess anything in that class would be. It's not a market segment I patronize so maybe I'm thinking about it wrong, I admit. I don't like wood on anything because I'm not an old man and wood to me feels like an old man material. If it were up to me all my furniture would be CF too.  However I think the Chrysler's wood works well with the rest of the brown interior and is better than the swirly red walnut stuff that you get on European cars, at least this thing actually looks like wood. Maybe its the lighting.  
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Raluek posted:Dissss and Throatwarbler had expressed preference for plastic and CF, respectively, but yes, maybe I'm mis-reading them. Maybe the wood doesn't look dynamic enough, I think it looks fine. It's a bit plain, but it doesn't need to be ostentatious or anything. Really I just like anything that isn't plastic, which I guess anything in that class would be. It's not a market segment I patronize so maybe I'm thinking about it wrong, I admit. Its not wood in general I don't like but how poo poo it looks in the Infiniti posted - like KozmoNaut said it looks like a cheap kitchen from the 60s I do like how it looks in the Chrysler.
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I like BMWs zebra wood, otherwise I'd rather aluminum or CF.
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I think it's hard to do wood paneling these days because so many manufacturers use it to tart up their shitbox cars.
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rscott posted:I think it's hard to do wood paneling these days because so many manufacturers use it to tart up their shitbox cars. I have an aquantiance you bought a wood accent kit for her PT Cruiser. The amount of stick on wood bits is staggering. She later got matching exterior bits like this.  And then a few months later she bought a used surfboard and bolted it to the roofrack.
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Rhyno posted:I need this for my volvo.
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Cakefool posted:I need this for my volvo. Now I have the idea to sneak over to 14"'s place sometime and stick a bunch of horrible wood accents on his car.
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There's a mid-eighties Jetta around here with a fablon wood bonnet.
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The A7 has some of the dopest wood on an interior that I've seen in a very long time.
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 Unless I'm reading my dimensions really incorrectly, is Buick seriously bringing a Pontiac Vibe sized car to market? That's hilarious, and a little awesome.
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That looks even smaller, like Sonic sized. A-pillar area looks about the same: Rear of the car is very Vibe/Matrix, though.
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kimbo305 posted:That looks even smaller, like Sonic sized. A-pillar area looks about the same: This thing is tiny, I can't believe they are actually going to sell this thing here. Who will buy it? 
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Seeing that pic and looking into it; the Mokka is reportedly 4300mm/169.3 inches long. The Sonic/Aveo is ten inches shorter, while the final-gen vibe is 172 inches long.
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Both models are on the Gamma platform, apparently. The front dimensions seems drat near identical.
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So the Cayenne diesel is finally coming to North America this year. Endless PCA trolling amusement to follow. Possibly with installation of dual stacks. Now all Porsche needs is a 3/4t >8,500lb GVWR Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jan 4, 2012 |
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I want a diesel Cayman.
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Throatwarbler posted:Now all Porsche needs is a 3/4t >8,500lb GVWR 
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InitialDave posted:A Cayenne Turbo-engined VW Amarok would be Nah, I'll take the V10 TDI from the Toureg.
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D C posted:Nah, I'll take the V10 TDI from the Toureg. What's wrong with the V8 from the current one?
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It's not a V10.
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Guinness posted:It's not a V10. Duh
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While we're still in the realm of the theoretical, why not take the V12 TDI from the Q7 and stuff that in a Cayenne?
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MrChips posted:While we're still in the realm of the theoretical, why not take the V12 TDI from the Q7 and stuff that in a Cayenne? Looking at Audi.de, the GVWR of the V12 Q7 is 3405kg. The EPA's cutoff for "passenger vehicle" is 8,500lbs or 3856kg. All they would have to do is beef it up a little more (if that, GVWR is just a theoretical number anyway) and it would cross over into the same category as an F-350 Superduty and be emissions legal. I'm baffled as to why they haven't already thought of this because the demand for such a vehicle in the US and Canada must be enormous.
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davebo posted:I was really hoping the Veloster might be my next car, because I really like the 3 door aspect, and would love a hatch. I was really excited about the Veloster, and then I saw one in person. It has one of those lovely hatches like the C30 that makes it worthless for hauling anything bigger than a coffee table.
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Internet Meme posted:I was really excited about the Veloster, and then I saw one in person. It has one of those lovely hatches like the C30 that makes it worthless for hauling anything bigger than a coffee table. you can't get skiis and a snowboard in the hatch of a C30. That's how we ended up in a Kia Rondo one year. the kia rondo was loving great
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Internet Meme posted:I was really excited about the Veloster, and then I saw one in person. It has one of those lovely hatches like the C30 that makes it worthless for hauling anything bigger than a coffee table. If you're wanting to haul a bale of horses may I suggest a pick up truck?
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Throatwarbler posted:Looking at Audi.de, the GVWR of the V12 Q7 is 3405kg. The EPA's cutoff for "passenger vehicle" is 8,500lbs or 3856kg. All they would have to do is beef it up a little more (if that, GVWR is just a theoretical number anyway) and it would cross over into the same category as an F-350 Superduty and be emissions legal. I'm baffled as to why they haven't already thought of this because the demand for such a vehicle in the US and Canada must be enormous. A 500HP 6-liter V12 diesel SUV that gets 19MPG. Sure, why not? 
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Peanut President posted:If you're wanting to haul a bale of horses may I suggest a pick up truck? Well most people buy hatchbacks for the utility, it's kinda pointless if the hatch is smaller than a trunk opening, which the C30 has. Might as well make the car a coupe then.
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KozmoNaut posted:A 500HP 6-liter V12 diesel SUV that gets 19MPG. Sure, why not? EDIT: Really, they could just bolt two slabs of lead to the underside to bring the weight up, which people who buy them can then instantly remove (and weigh them in, of course, money's money). InitialDave fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jan 5, 2012 |
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InitialDave posted:That's actually not a bad deal in performance vs economy terms. It's GVWR, not curb weight. I doubt they would have to actually bolt on anything, just change the number on the spec sheet.
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leica posted:Well most people buy hatchbacks for the utility, it's kinda pointless if the hatch is smaller than a trunk opening, which the C30 has. Might as well make the car a coupe then.
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tbb9 posted:I brought this up talking about the mini coupe, I was quickly reminded that lots of cars are bought with daddy's money because "its cute and peppy" To be fair to the C30, it's more than just "peppy," since in 2008 at least it was quicker than a VW GTI. I see it as a niche-filler similar to the X6: a personal vehicle masquerading as "utilitarian."
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