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Miching Mallecho posted:You're not kidding And this is the guy who made death threats to Benoit?
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I posted:What a puny little runt. I think Benoit proved you really don't need to be a huge guy to be dangerous
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Oatgan posted:I think Benoit proved you really don't need to be a huge guy to be dangerous What time is Souled Out 2000 tonight? 
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Super Ninja Fish posted:What time is Souled Out 2000 tonight? We are not watching it, but we are watching a Thunder tomorrow.
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bobkatt013 posted:We are not watching it, but we are watching a Thunder tomorrow. Either way, we lose.
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Moose Bigelow posted:Austin was right not to do that with no build on a throwaway raw. Exactly. He wanted to do a long term program with Brock and only got to do it right before Lesnar had left and he was out of active competition.
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Oatgan posted:I think Benoit proved you really don't need to be a huge guy to be dangerous Mikey's got a permed mullet!
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I posted:
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The Jarrett/Austin thing was talked about on THE BOARD about a month ago. Figured I'd post Dave's response in the thread here:dave posted:Amazing how the Jarrett story has been twisted. HulkaMatt fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jan 23, 2012 |
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Since this thread is sort of a generic 90s/Monday night wars type of thing.....I've long heard that Austin became very "hoganesque" later in his career. I know the jj thing was just talked about, but are there any other famous Austin stories like that?
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ColonelJohnMatrix posted:Since this thread is sort of a generic 90s/Monday night wars type of thing.....I've long heard that Austin became very "hoganesque" later in his career. I know the jj thing was just talked about, but are there any other famous Austin stories like that? No the only other people he refused to fued with was Owen Hard for obvious reasons and Brock as he wanted to have a feud not just one match on free tv.
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bobkatt013 posted:No the only other people he refused to fued with was Owen Hard for obvious reasons Well, wrestling a dead body would be in bad taste.
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Red posted:Well, wrestling a dead body would be in bad taste. I mean in his entire career. He refused to feud with him due to the Summerslam accident.
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bobkatt013 posted:I mean in his entire career. He refused to feud with him due to the Summerslam accident. And even then, it wasn't really because of the injury, but how Owen handled it. He never apologized, or even called to check on Austin when he was on the shelf. Right?
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Q_res posted:And even then, it wasn't really because of the injury, but how Owen handled it. He never apologized, or even called to check on Austin when he was on the shelf. Right? I believe that was the case
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bobkatt013 posted:I believe that was the case That seems really out of character for Owen. I wonder what his issue was.
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CombineThresher posted:That seems really out of character for Owen. I wonder what his issue was. Maybe some part of him was convinced Austin was the one who botched it? I really can't think of a good reason. I know Austin really didn't want to take the move because he wasn't confident with it, so maybe Owen thought his hesitation to trust him was the problem?
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bobkatt013 posted:I believe that was the case Which is strange because everyone said Owen was one of the few upstanding people in the business. Unless that talk is all post death fluff. Was it a misunderstanding or is there something else they had heat over?
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Maybe it's post-match courtesy to check on the guy you were working with, and Owen was probably upset/scared/stressed out, and didn't go to look in on him, and Austin held a grudge. Foley had a thing with Rock for a while for the same reason, although who knows why Rock didn't check on him after the Royal Rumble 1999 'I Quit' match.
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maniacripper posted:Which is strange because everyone said Owen was one of the few upstanding people in the business. Unless that talk is all post death fluff. Was it a misunderstanding or is there something else they had heat over? Bret spoke about it on a recent WWE DVD saying that he was disappointed with how Owen handled the whole situation. So I'm assuming if Bret of all people felt that way then most of the blame for it has to be placed on Owen. I heard that Martha Hart wrote in her book that Owen thought Austin might be faking or playing the injury up to be worse than it was. But I don't believe that for a second.
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Red posted:Maybe it's post-match courtesy to check on the guy you were working with, and Owen was probably upset/scared/stressed out, and didn't go to look in on him, and Austin held a grudge. I thought Rock did check on Foley but for a long time Foley thought otherwise because his brain was so scrambled after the match he couldn't remember it?
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ColonelJohnMatrix posted:Since this thread is sort of a generic 90s/Monday night wars type of thing.....I've long heard that Austin became very "hoganesque" later in his career. I know the jj thing was just talked about, but are there any other famous Austin stories like that? Austin's thing wasn't that he was Hoganesque, trying to protect a spot. Austin's thing was he was loving smarter than the people involved with taking care of his career. If Austin had any inclination to be a booker he'd be pretty loving amazing. The only guys known for Austin to reject in a feud are Jarrett, Owen, Billy Bitchcakes and rejected losing to Brock Lesnar in a KOTR qualifier. He had a very good reason for all of them. Guys reject other guys for programs all of the time, and while most of the reasons are self absorbed, sometimes there are pretty good reasons. The best reason for me is, "When I was nobody that guy was a piece of poo poo to me, and now I can make a guy money by just feuding with me, I don't want to work with him." That's what HBK was to Rock and what Jarrett was to Austin.
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Lone Rogue posted:"When I was nobody that guy was a piece of poo poo to me, and now I can make a guy money by just feuding with me, I don't want to work with him." That's what HBK was to Rock What's this now?
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Red posted:What's this now? HBK was a dick to Rocky before he was big. So once he did blow up he refused to work with Shawn.
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Deadpool posted:HBK was a dick to Rocky before he was big. So once he did blow up he refused to work with Shawn. Huh. Interesting. A quick Google reveals: Wrestling Observer Newsletter posted:It's worth noting that Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and Shawn Michaels, who long harbored animosity towards each other, crossed paths during WrestleMania weekend. WWE.com published a photo (link) of Johnson and Michaels sharing a laugh shortly after HBK had appeared on stage at WrestleMania XXVII to commemorate his induction into the WWE Hall of Fame. According to a source, their past animosity was actually settled in 2008 when Johnson inducted his father, Rocky Johnson, and grandfather, High Chief Peter Maivia, into the WWE Hall of Fame. I'm not sure what "going beyond nearly wrestler, including Hunter" means, but neat.
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Red posted:Huh. Interesting. A quick Google reveals: It means Rock was pretty much a bigger star than anyone else in the business, including the guy HBK was lobbying for.
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Red posted:Huh. Interesting. A quick Google reveals: Imagine if those two conniving sacks of poo poo would have succeed. It makes Rocky look all the more awesome ascending to the top of the world in spite of these two dip shits efforts to bury him. While everything Triple H has ever accomplished will always be tarnished because before he started politicking and marrying the bosses daughter he was just a random rear end in a top hat named Terra Ryzing.
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Hirams Bitch posted:I thought Rock did check on Foley but for a long time Foley thought otherwise because his brain was so scrambled after the match he couldn't remember it?
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Red posted:Huh. Interesting. A quick Google reveals: "Going beyond nearly every wrestler." Typo from a hand-made c/p or just Dave with bad grammar. Anyway, the only part of this that doesn't add up to me is that Rock worked with Triple H extensively.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:"Going beyond nearly every wrestler." Typo from a hand-made c/p or just Dave with bad grammar. His last PPV match with HHH was December 2000 in the 6 man cell so maybe he did basically refuse to work with him once he got huge. His last TV match with HHH was in early 2002 so he never worked with either once Shawn returned. e: Typed 1999 instead of 2000, sorry. UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Jan 23, 2012 |
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:The Rock probably didn't have the influence back then to refuse to work with a guy who was more or less on his level. What about Judgment Day 2000?
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The 6 man cell was in 2000. So it would be after Judgement day
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Keep in mind that Foley wrote was telling people at that same time that the Rock didn't have it and they should just cut their losses and get rid of him, according to his book. At the time it didn't look like the Rock had it. And he was in a feud with HHH and won it beating him for his IC title. Can't really blame HHH and HBK for thinking Rocky's push should be stopped. Remember, that push bombed.
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Lone Rogue posted:The only guys known for Austin to reject in a feud are Jarrett, Owen, Billy Bitchcakes and rejected losing to Brock Lesnar in a KOTR qualifier. He had a very good reason for all of them. Didn't they also ask him to job to Coachman at one of those fan voting PPVs? The one where they went with Batista instead when Austin pulled out...
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Saul Goode posted:Didn't they also ask him to job to Coachman at one of those fan voting PPVs? The one where they went with Batista instead when Austin pulled out... Yeah. I voted so hard for a verbal debate.... Souled Out 1997 was a bad PPV. Watching Superbrawl now. Much better show.
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Saul Goode posted:Didn't they also ask him to job to Coachman at one of those fan voting PPVs? The one where they went with Batista instead when Austin pulled out... Taboo Tuesday 2005, yeah. They were gonna have Austin lose to Coachman, apparently after Mark Henry ran in. But Austin balked at the idea, and they switched to Batista against Coachman, with Coach's backup - Goldust, and a very fat Vader. It led to this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoF6nZpyhq8
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Taboo Tuesday 2005, yeah. They were gonna have Austin lose to Coachman, apparently after Mark Henry ran in. It also led to them cancelling a Vader DVD
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Saul Goode posted:Didn't they also ask him to job to Coachman at one of those fan voting PPVs? The one where they went with Batista instead when Austin pulled out... Austin also refused to work with Scott Hall at Wrestlemania, if I remember right.
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Psychlone posted:Austin also refused to work with Scott Hall at Wrestlemania, if I remember right. At that point who would work with Scott Hall?
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Psychlone posted:Austin also refused to work with Scott Hall at Wrestlemania, if I remember right. I believe he refused to lose to him. I think the original plan was for Nash to interfere and cost Austin the match but Austin said that Hall was in no condition for a long term feud and they might as well end it there. You know, Austin once again being smarter than the people employing him. That's the difference between Austin and Hogan. Hogan refused jobs to keep his spot. Austin refused jobs because it would have been stupid.
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