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Aren't those tests using an Imperial gallon, which is nearly a liter bigger than a US gallon?
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Megiddo posted:Aren't those tests using an Imperial gallon, which is nearly a liter bigger than a US gallon? The article was actually in l/100km and Throatwarbler converted to US gallons.
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Feb 15, 2012 10:56
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Throatwarbler posted:That right there is drat sexy.
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Feb 15, 2012 11:15
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SouthLAnd posted:That right there is drat sexy. Agreed, holy poo poo.
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Feb 15, 2012 12:27
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davebo posted:
Pretty amazing package in my opinion. AWD, DSG, nice engine and an Avant. I’m curious about the pricing though, is this supposed to be their M3 or M5 competitor? (I know they’re not directly comparable)
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Feb 15, 2012 12:39
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SouthLAnd posted:That right there is drat sexy. They've become the standard go-to company car to replace the Mondeo over here, so there's like a million billion of them on the road, all driven by wankers.
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Feb 15, 2012 12:41
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KozmoNaut posted:They've become the standard go-to company car to replace the Mondeo over here, so there's like a million billion of them on the road, all driven by wankers. This is my experience, too. That estate is much nicer than the hatch/sedan/whatever it is.
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Feb 15, 2012 12:45
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davebo posted:
I'm not going to miss it. No stick, only 24 more hp than the 5-year old B7 RS 4? It does look nice, though.  Audi RS 4 Avant by Audi USA, on Flickr
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Feb 15, 2012 17:52
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eames posted:Pretty amazing package in my opinion. AWD, DSG, nice engine and an Avant. Audi and BMW don't usually seem to build direct competitors. The A4 slots in just below the 3 series, the S4 is a bit above the top 3 series trim, then the M3 then the RS4.
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Feb 15, 2012 18:24
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KozmoNaut posted:They've become the standard go-to company car to replace the Mondeo over here, so there's like a million billion of them on the road, all driven by wankers. I really think Holden missed a trick by not importing these to compete with the Mondeo - that awful Cruze isn't even available in a wagon and of course no diesel in the Commodore is increasingly becoming an issue.
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Feb 15, 2012 22:51
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dissss posted:I really think Holden missed a trick by not importing these to compete with the Mondeo - that awful Cruze isn't even available in a wagon and of course no diesel in the Commodore is increasingly becoming an issue. I think Opel is being brought to Australia? Even then the car is going to be 4 years old by the time it finally gets there so they probably should have made a Holden version.
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Feb 15, 2012 23:03
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dissss posted:I really think Holden missed a trick by not importing these to compete with the Mondeo - that awful Cruze isn't even available in a wagon and of course no diesel in the Commodore is increasingly becoming an issue. They really did. The current Opel lineup is very solid.
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Feb 15, 2012 23:34
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KozmoNaut posted:The current Opel lineup is very solid. -Saturn L-Series and Chevrolet Malibu (04-08) were the Vectra -Saturn Aura, Pontiac G6, Chevrolet Malibu (08-12) were/are the Insignia. The Pontiac version was a HUGE improvement over the Grand Am it replaced. -We also got the Astra for a bit just before Saturn tanked. Big step up from the Ion. -I think the current Buick Regal is an Insignia too, and I've heard nothing but praise for it, aside from Autoblog bitching about the shifter in the GS.
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Feb 16, 2012 02:56
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Wamsutta posted:You can get the TSX with the 2.4 and a 6MT. You just can't get a 6MT wagon, if that's what you meant. Yeah that's what I meant, I don't love sedans.
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Feb 16, 2012 03:16
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dissss posted:I really think Holden missed a trick by not importing these to compete with the Mondeo - that awful Cruze isn't even available in a wagon and of course no diesel in the Commodore is increasingly becoming an issue. Doesn't Holden sell an obscene amount of those SUV Commodore sportswagons or whatever they're called?
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~Coxy posted:Doesn't Holden sell an obscene amount of those SUV Commodore sportswagons or whatever they're called? Its a shrinking market even in Australia - they sell more Cruzes than Commodores these days
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dissss posted:I really think Holden missed a trick by not importing these to compete with the Mondeo - that awful Cruze isn't even available in a wagon and of course no diesel in the Commodore is increasingly becoming an issue. Given how involved Holden was / is in running GM Korea, I cant see them using their Opel portfolio readliy. Plus the Cruze is getting manufactured locally shortly, we'll probably see a bunch of variant appear after that The Cruze anyway isnt utterly crap - it's just average. Pretty much like any other smallish car Holden has ever been involved with
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That pink Torana concept car from about 5 years ago was pretty cool...  It's basically the new Cadillac ATS but with a hatch. What do you think the chances are of them ever making something like that?
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Cream_Filling posted:It's basically the new Cadillac ATS but with a hatch. What do you think the chances are of them ever making something like that? You mean something that isn't just a Torana badge on the Cruze hatch? Approximately zero.
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Feb 16, 2012 23:12
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The new Focus RS looks nice: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/15/2015-ford-focus-rs-to-get-five-doors-turbo-four-and-active-nois/ Ford really needs to start selling these over here.
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Feb 17, 2012 03:45
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That's just a pic of the current RS500.
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Feb 17, 2012 03:49
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Is the RS coming to the US? After lots of searching I can't figure it out.  If not, the ST still looks pretty nice.
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Scottw330 posted:Is the RS coming to the US? After lots of searching I can't figure it out. I would be surprised if it did. I think Ford is still (unduly) scared of a HiPo Focus stealing Mustang sales. If they do, it certainly won't be for a long time because we *still* don't have the ST over here.
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Feb 17, 2012 04:30
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Apparently this is the new california. That rear end is gross as heck. 
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A5H posted:Apparently this is the new california. I too judge a car's appearance by photos of it heavily camouflaged. And it's the 599 replacement, not new California.
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oRenj9 posted:I would be surprised if it did. I think Ford is still (unduly) scared of a HiPo Focus stealing Mustang sales. If they do, it certainly won't be for a long time because we *still* don't have the ST over here. ST is supposedly coming Q3 of 12 I believe.
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Throatwarbler posted:That's just a pic of the current RS500. D'oh, so it is. Oops.
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2ndclasscitizen posted:I too judge a car's appearance by photos of it heavily camouflaged. And it's the 599 replacement, not new California. I don't think that rear bumper is camo though?
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A5H posted:I don't think that rear bumper is camo though? That whole object screams test mule to me which means they probably took the rear end off something else/a prototype and slapped it on a 599/california/whatever they're using body - check out the protrusion of the exhaust.
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davebo posted:
For this car I'll move to Germany. gently caress, it's perfect.  Cream_Filling posted:That pink Torana concept car from about 5 years ago was pretty cool... I wish more sedans had liftbacks.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:ST is supposedly coming Q3 of 12 I believe. Yeah, Ford's website is saying the 2013 Ford Focus ST is coming "late 2012:" http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/focusst/
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:I wish more sedans had liftbacks. 
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Feb 20, 2012 20:57
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The Cruze comes in a hatch which looks pretty reasonable to me, certainly nicer than the sedan
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Feb 20, 2012 23:00
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Left Ventricle posted:Chevy did it twice, and it was horrible to look at both times. Corsica and Malibu. I'm having a hard time coming up with a picture of the Corsica though. The Malibu Maxx is just so awkward-looking. I dunno, I kinda think the Corsica hatch looked better than the sedan.
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Feb 20, 2012 23:21
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You need a hatch to haul a lot of rear end. Someone should sell this bumper sticker.
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Feb 20, 2012 23:26
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dissss posted:The Cruze comes in a hatch which looks pretty reasonable to me, certainly nicer than the sedan That's actually pretty handsome. Too bad we'll never see it stateside.
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Feb 20, 2012 23:59
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The malibu maxx was pretty ugly, also that picture you posted of it in purple reminds me of the comic book The Maxx. The new malibu isn't anything special in terms of looks but with the engine options I think if they offered a hatch of it right now I'd probably get it.
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The new Peugeot 208 GTi concept is a pretty sharp looking little thing. Much better than the shite they've been pushing out lately.   
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Feb 21, 2012 02:41
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I love me some 3 door hot hatches, I really loving do... but that front license plate makes it look so loving bucktoothed it's ridiculous and now I can't un-see it.
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That does look pretty good, however it's French so I'm not buying one. Never again, drat electrical problems!
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