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Killbot
Jun 19, 2003

You know, you kids really ought to stop getting involved with this stuff.

Policenaut posted:

Calling it now, the next image they send out will be the exact same one but entirely Golden with like the sparkles from The Golden logo exposed when you muck around with it. Atlus USA feeds on hate and misery.

And I love them for it.

P4G will be what makes me get a Vita.

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Catalina
May 20, 2008



Killbot posted:

P4G will be what makes me get a Vita.

Me too, me too. :smithicide:
I'll be waiting for the Vita Price drop and maybe even the second released model, but if P4G comes with a preorder bonus, I'll probably buy it then.
I hate Atlus so much, I buy all of their games new. Even though I know they just want to feed on my fan tears.

Speaking of fan tears, some of the new entries revealed in the never ending pile of new Persona 4 merchandise I sure would like to have are some very nice Figma figures of Chie and Yukiko.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I'm surprised it took them so long to put out a Chie. More so that there is no Naoto since I figured that character was super popular in Japan.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Isn't Yukiko the most popular character over there or something?

Meowjesty
Oct 23, 2009

Friends depend on each other.
I'm pretty sure the last poll had MC/Yosuke/Chie in the top three spots. Yukiko's probably in the top ten.

Catalina
May 20, 2008



Hey! Yukiko doesn't have a flat character! It's just...really subtle. :colbert:

ETA: I'm assuming they're just merchandise-whoring out the female characters in the order they appeared, though.
Not that they aren't whoring out the male characters as well.
(Please note that I am not responsible for any brain damage or eye gouging that may occur as a result of clicking that link and seeing a near-naked human Teddie.)

Also! "Chibi" figurines of Naoto and Nanako and Chie and Rise. I would love the Nanako one!

Catalina fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Feb 17, 2012

U.T. Raptor
May 11, 2010

Are you a pack of imbeciles!?

Catalina posted:

Speaking of fan tears, some of the new entries revealed in the never ending pile of new Persona 4 merchandise I sure would like to have are some very nice Figma figures of Chie and Yukiko.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.

Seriously, though, I'm pre-ordering this poo poo as soon as HLJ lists it.

Still want Figma Naoto, though :colbert:

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.
Personally I'm looking forward to the Aigis by Alter.



Not a figma. Figmas are pretty good value for money but.. are considerably cheap in quality.

There can never be too many black rock shooterAigis figures.

U NO WUT IM SAIYAN
Jan 26, 2003

by angerbeet
That's the second Aigis figure from Alter, this time based on the Shigenori artworks collection cover. The original one from Alter came out in 2007 and is almost nowhere to be found by now, I've seen it being sold NIB between $250 and $700. The Figmas are posable action figures, whereas the Alter are statues.

The new Alter one is still like $120 I think, was supposed to come out last month but they delayed it. Hope it ships before the end of February.

U NO WUT IM SAIYAN
Jan 26, 2003

by angerbeet
e: oops

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Sega is going to distribute Atlus games worldwide:http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/40373/Sega_to_distribute_Atlus_games_from_April.php

Finally, please bring the Devil Survivor games to Europe, Sega.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008

Kurtofan posted:

Sega is going to distribute Atlus games worldwide:http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/40373/Sega_to_distribute_Atlus_games_from_April.php

Finally, please bring the Devil Survivor games to Europe, Sega.

Now i kinda hope that Sonic becomes a Persona in P5.

vilkacis
Feb 16, 2011

Kurtofan posted:

Finally, please bring the Devil Survivor games to Europe, Sega.

DS games are region free, so you don't have to wait for them to do that - just buy them off amazon or ebay or something. (It's probably going to be faster and cheaper, anyway.)

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

vilkacis posted:

DS games are region free, so you don't have to wait for them to do that - just buy them off amazon or ebay or something. (It's probably going to be faster and cheaper, anyway.)

Overclocked isn't though. :(

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

Kurtofan posted:

Sega is going to distribute Atlus games worldwide:http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/40373/Sega_to_distribute_Atlus_games_from_April.php

Finally, please bring the Devil Survivor games to Europe, Sega.

That deal seems to affect Japan only. So no, North America would still get the games published under Atlus USA while Europe just won't get the games at all unless someone feels like ponying up the cash for distribution rights in Europe.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Kurtofan posted:

Overclocked isn't though. :(

You're not missing much. Like 70% of the new stuff in DS:O is just lazily ripped from DS2 anyway.

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

Sorrowful be the heart

Rinkles posted:

Via Neogaf, the Digital Devil Saga (both games) is making its way to the European PSN via its European publisher Ghostlight.

I cannot believe this'd be happening without Atlus USA also releasing their games digitally in NA. So hopefully we'll get some sort of announcement soon.

Argh I have all the PS2 SMT games on disc already and I'll probably still buy these just so I can unhook my PS2. And I just bought DDS2 like a week ago.

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

Mr. Fortitude posted:

That deal seems to affect Japan only. So no, North America would still get the games published under Atlus USA while Europe just won't get the games at all unless someone feels like ponying up the cash for distribution rights in Europe.

gently caress. I really had my hopes up for a moment there. Having a big name publisher making a long-term commitment to releasing Atlus games in Europe would've been awesome, but no we still don't get nice things :argh:

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
Guess I've probably missed the window for flipping my spare sealed copy of DDS 1 then, if digital releases are coming.

a glitch
Jun 27, 2008

no wait stop

Soiled Meat

Kurtofan posted:

Sega is going to distribute Atlus games worldwide:http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/40373/Sega_to_distribute_Atlus_games_from_April.php

Finally, please bring the Devil Survivor games to Europe, Sega.

Hopefully DDS1 won't be locked to 50hz like it was on the PS2. It probably will be, but I can dream.

Do PS2 games look any better playing on a PS3 with a HDTV, or do they look as poo poo as they are playing a PS2 on a HDTV?

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I think we're at a point now where it's just better to try to get PS2 games to work on PCSX2, if at all possible.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009
Atlus seriously need to figure out their Euro Distro plans beyond "Ah, some idiot will pick it up for us". Sure it's only remakes of Devil Survivor now. But there will be tears once it's, say, Strange Journey 2 or Etrian Odyssey 3D.

Then again, if Nintendo hadn't hosed with region locking in the first instance, we wouldn't be in this mess. Good going there, you jerks :argh:

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.

Justice posted:

That's the second Aigis figure from Alter, this time based on the Shigenori artworks collection cover. The original one from Alter came out in 2007 and is almost nowhere to be found by now, I've seen it being sold NIB between $250 and $700. The Figmas are posable action figures, whereas the Alter are statues.

The new Alter one is still like $120 I think, was supposed to come out last month but they delayed it. Hope it ships before the end of February.

I actually found that one at Mandarake for 10,000 yen. I actually prefer this upcoming one, or this. For what Figmas are though, the Aigis is one of the better ones I've seen.

U NO WUT IM SAIYAN
Jan 26, 2003

by angerbeet

Megalixir posted:

I actually found that one at Mandarake for 10,000 yen. I actually prefer this upcoming one, or this. For what Figmas are though, the Aigis is one of the better ones I've seen.

The resinya one was announced like a year ago, both versions. I'm pretty sure they shipped already, unless you're referring to something else.

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.
Yes, I know. Probably because I have it.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Well, I finally got through the first 7 days on DS:OC After I got a couple of Phantasma/Flight demons it was super easy to defeat Belberith and Babel. I didn't realize I had to use the power Babel was weak against. I got the overlord ending. I'm now moving on to the 8TH day and am now stuck where Amane fights against the Anti-Overlords god drat are the AI stupid. Twice now I've had a character that is not supposed to get killed die on their first encounter. I'm determined to get a final ending before DS2 comes out. I'll definately be replaying for another ending afterwards.

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Dehry posted:

Well, I finally got through the first 7 days on DS:OC After I got a couple of Phantasma/Flight demons it was super easy to defeat Belberith and Babel. I didn't realize I had to use the power Babel was weak against. I got the overlord ending. I'm now moving on to the 8TH day and am now stuck where Amane fights against the Anti-Overlords god drat are the AI stupid. Twice now I've had a character that is not supposed to get killed die on their first encounter. I'm determined to get a final ending before DS2 comes out. I'll definately be replaying for another ending afterwards.

That level is a lot more fun on a kill everyone that gets in your way run because you can just kill the annoying escort NPCs.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

jonjonaug posted:

That level is a lot more fun on a kill everyone that gets in your way run because you can just kill the annoying escort NPCs.

I'm starting to get that feeling. I'm only at LV 70 and my other characters are in the high 60s. I've built up a physical character and Pierce/DrainHit has been my savior.

vanov
Sep 19, 2005

sup space lol
What is the absolute max I should put into Str in DSOC? I've seen the consensus is "8, but" and I would like some elaboration on what the "but" is, since I have him at 9 now and want to leave it alone but it's already lagging behind my other stats and I have three magic users now, so being more flexible for the time being is what I'm looking for. If 9 is one too much that's fine too, but I'd still like to know what the "max" is.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
The only reason I feel 8 is the max needed is because that's the minimum needed for Holy Dance. Pretty much any skill requiring higher Strength than that is not worth it. And any point put into Strength after that could have been put into Magic instead.

"But", some of the Null/Repel skills require as high as 16. On six of my seven playthroughs, I didn't care. On my seventh when I fought the optional boss? Such skills were pretty much mandatory.

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
Not to mention one of the Amp skills requires something like 11 Str, I think Fire Amp. Not really that important, unless you're like me and occasionally shuffle around the various elemental spells so that the MC always has the best one for the area.

Earnestly
Apr 24, 2010

Jazz hands!
All right, goons, I need your help. I'm a… "mainstream" Altus fan and have only played Persona 3 and 4. If I want to get into the rest of series, what game should I try next? I have a PS2, PS3, and a 3DS.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

CharismaticHorsey posted:

All right, goons, I need your help. I'm a… "mainstream" Altus fan and have only played Persona 3 and 4. If I want to get into the rest of series, what game should I try next? I have a PS2, PS3, and a 3DS.

Everyone's going to say Nocturne, but give Devil Survivor (DS) and Strange Journey (DS) a try too, I liked them both for very different reasons.

Catalina
May 20, 2008



CharismaticHorsey posted:

All right, goons, I need your help. I'm a… "mainstream" Altus fan and have only played Persona 3 and 4. If I want to get into the rest of series, what game should I try next? I have a PS2, PS3, and a 3DS.

Read about all the games and pick the one that sounds the most interesting! That's what I did after I got introduced to the SMT series through P3 and P4, anyway. (I ended up playing SMT: Strange Journey and reading the Let's Plays of the original Shin Megami Tensei I and II, myself.)

Since you've played Persona 3 and 4, my personal recommendation would be to try Devil Survivor for NDS (or the rereleased upgrade, Devil Survivor Overclocked for 3DS). Devil Survivor is like a blend of Persona 3 and 4 and the more mainline hardcore Shin Megami Tensei games. It's got a very anime style, but the system, plot, characters, and choices get pretty deep. There are different scenarios and choices depending on who you interact with and when I think it would be a good stepping stone from P3 and P4.

ETA: There's a good writeup of the series here:
http://hardcoregaming101.net/megaten/megaten.htm
with a table of contents is at the bottom of the page.

Catalina fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Feb 21, 2012

Strange Matter
Oct 6, 2009

Ask me about Genocide
I'd suggest playing Digital Devil Saga before Nocturne. Nocturne is infamously difficult, far more than either of the two Persona games you've played. DDS is a good bridge between those difficulty levels.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

CharismaticHorsey posted:

All right, goons, I need your help. I'm a… "mainstream" Altus fan and have only played Persona 3 and 4. If I want to get into the rest of series, what game should I try next? I have a PS2, PS3, and a 3DS.

Despite being really, really difficult, I'd say to just leap into Nocturne. It's the best SMT game, and it's a good window into the rest of the series.

Authorman
Mar 5, 2007

slamcat

CharismaticHorsey posted:

All right, goons, I need your help. I'm a… "mainstream" Altus fan and have only played Persona 3 and 4. If I want to get into the rest of series, what game should I try next? I have a PS2, PS3, and a 3DS.

Just be warned that every game before Persona 3 in the SMT orbit are straight up dungeon crawlers and if you played one you've played them all. So you have Devil Survivor which is a fun SRPG with an unfortunate soundtrack that you can mute and Catherine which is a mixed bag plot and gameplay wise, but the vs multiplayer is worth it by itself. Too bad its local only and you have to beat the game to unlock it and by the time you beat the game you will hate life and yourself.

But if you really must go back to the dark ages, go with Nocturne. Just steel yourself for lots and lots of dungeon crawling and a very minimalist plot. Other than the same pokemon it is nothing like Persona. Which is fine, but know what you're getting into.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Personally I used a guide for Nocturne's dungeons, it made the game less frustrating and I still enjoyed it.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


Other than the Amala Labyrinth and Amala Temple, the dungeons in Nocturne are relatively straight forward and probably the best in the series. I've been replaying DDS2 recently and all of the dungeons have so much backtracking that I never really noticed the first time through.

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Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

CharismaticHorsey posted:

All right, goons, I need your help. I'm a… "mainstream" Altus fan and have only played Persona 3 and 4. If I want to get into the rest of series, what game should I try next? I have a PS2, PS3, and a 3DS.

Don't play Nocturne, it's not really that great. Get DDS and DDS2 whenever those come out on PSN and get Devil Summoner in the meantime. I'd say get both Devil Summoner's, but the second one is the better of the two.

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