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bidikyoopi posted:Ugh, the new Ferrari grill is not going in the right direction. Everything else sounds awesome though, especially the V12 that redlines at 8700 holy poo poo Yea that new grill is pretty weird looking, but in other photos the body actually looks really good.
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Neptr posted:It looks like a fish.
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Feb 25, 2012 00:20
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Omerta posted:Agreed. The grill looks like a Nissan Maxima five years ago. Plus Audi fairy lights in the front and derivative A4 tail lights. And those wheels are just heinous. Yeah, I'm not even one of those people that gets all mad about derivative designs. So long as it looks good and it's not an actually misleading 100% copy like those Chinese knock-offs, I don't care how "original" your car design is. I like original car designs (see: Citroen and the other frenchies) but I also think that it's good for consumers if you rip off the smart parts of your competitor's designs. The key is whether it's a unified, coherent design versus a design that's made by ripping off "prestige" design cues and jamming them together. I don't think this Lexus is that. It's just that Lexus is trying too hard to be "distinctive" and just ends up looking weird.
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Feb 25, 2012 00:53
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eames posted://edit: So the thing is called M135i, will be revealed in Geneva and there’s a whole gallery of it here: here. I would buy the everlasting poo poo out of this as a huge fan of three door hatches. BMW of America needs to stop being such a prissy image conscious prat over here and start considering to bring over hatches already. Jesus christ.
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Feb 25, 2012 01:48
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I'm upset that they got rid of the flying buttresses on the new Ferrari. I really liked them on the 599.
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Feb 25, 2012 07:39
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bidikyoopi posted:Ugh, the new Ferrari grill is not going in the right direction. Everything else sounds awesome though, especially the V12 that redlines at 8700 holy poo poo I'm not in love, but it's consistent with the FF. Heck, stylewise, this is just the coupe version of that.
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Feb 25, 2012 08:23
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The FF is cool as all hell and I will fight anyone who says nay.
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Feb 25, 2012 19:13
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The FF is cool as all hell and I will fight anyone who says nay. The problem is, that the FF is as cool as hell, but Ferrari decided to reinvent the wheel and go with a dual gearbox that shuts down one of the transmissions if you go into fifth. Ferrari essentially outsmarted themselves.
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Feb 25, 2012 19:32
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Naky posted:I would buy the everlasting poo poo out of this as a huge fan of three door hatches. BMW of America needs to stop being such a prissy image conscious prat over here and start considering to bring over hatches already. Jesus christ. I'd need the five-door one (dogs need windows!) but otherwise that's exactly what'd I'd draw up if I could design a car from scratch to own. Want so bad.
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Feb 25, 2012 19:32
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The FF is cool as all hell and I will fight anyone who says nay.  Naky posted:I would buy the everlasting poo poo out of this as a huge fan of three door hatches. BMW of America needs to stop being such a prissy image conscious prat over here and start considering to bring over hatches already. Jesus christ.
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Feb 25, 2012 20:35
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Evanauto posted:The problem is, that the FF is as cool as hell, but Ferrari decided to reinvent the wheel and go with a dual gearbox that shuts down one of the transmissions if you go into fifth. Unless it's geared like a rally car, once you're at speeds that 5th gear is used for you're probably not going to see much advantage from AWD.
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Feb 25, 2012 22:29
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Not that I'm the target demographic at all, but the new company fascia just totally turns me off. Everything body-wise and mechanical about the FF and new 620 and even the 458 is awesome (especially the rears) but that fish face is just so bad that it ruins it for me. aw yeah  wait what 
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Feb 26, 2012 02:02
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I like it. It reminds me of Ferrari in the 60s.
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Feb 26, 2012 05:01
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It's gorgeous, wouldn't change a thing.
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Feb 26, 2012 05:52
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I could use a few more extra vertical grill lines, but maybe that'd make it more 
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kimbo305 posted:I could use a few more extra vertical grill lines, but maybe that'd make it more  Perhaps?
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Feb 26, 2012 13:14
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KozmoNaut posted:Or drop in some sunglasses. Evanauto fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Feb 26, 2012 |
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Feb 26, 2012 15:22
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It looks great from most angles, just that one in particular made me think of...
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Feb 26, 2012 16:08
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Un-l337-Pork posted:It looks great from most angles, that just that one in particular made me think of... Welp, that knocks my suggestion out of the water.
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Feb 26, 2012 16:17
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Naky posted:I would buy the everlasting poo poo out of this as a huge fan of three door hatches. BMW of America needs to stop being such a prissy image conscious prat over here and start considering to bring over hatches already. Jesus christ. They do sell 3-door hatches, go get a Mini 
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Nodoze posted:They do sell 3-door hatches, go get a Mini Your car's engine is hooked up to the wrong wheels.
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Feb 26, 2012 17:05
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Nodoze posted:They do sell 3-door hatches, go get a Mini Sadly, here in Canada an M135i would probably cost less than a mini.
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Feb 26, 2012 18:57
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Photos of Infiniti's Emerge-E concept vehicle have leaked out ahead of the Geneva autoshow. The earlier images were renderings but these are actual photos.   
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Feb 26, 2012 19:45
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Your car's engine is hooked up to the wrong wheels. I know 
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Mr. Apollo posted:Photos of Infiniti's Emerge-E concept vehicle have leaked out ahead of the Geneva autoshow. The earlier images were renderings but these are actual photos. So they too a Ferrari F430 and put too much air in it? e: Sorry that's a little too harsh. It does look good with that nose.
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Feb 26, 2012 23:00
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bidikyoopi posted:KozmoNaut posted:God drat it KozmoNaut. I will NEVER un-see that.
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Feb 26, 2012 23:47
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The new Ferraris have flatworm eyes.
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Feb 27, 2012 00:57
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http://ca.autoblog.com/2012/02/28/fisker-to-launch-production-karma-surf-wagon-at-paris-salon-in-s/ Why didn't they do this in the first place? Now I have a Hummer dealership to protest.
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That thing is gorgeous except for that somewhat funky steering wheel (which I'd make myself get used to if someone gave me the car). I'd also require a fake tachometer, a smaller battery meter and some engine sound effects so I can choose what engine to emulate at 100 decibels. Until I can pull up at a stoplight next to a Prius that is rumbling like a big block 502 V8, I will remain unsatisfied with EV's. 
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Keyser S0ze posted:Until I can pull up at a stoplight next to a Prius that is rumbling like a big block 502 V8, I will remain unsatisfied with EV's. Anything electric will never be just like an old V8, and shouldn't really try. Let's find something new and awesome they can do. Can we fix it so when you mash the pedal in an EV it emits a blinding white light and then 2 seconds later makes a booming thunder sound?
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This would work: http://www.hark.com/clips/sdgzbvrcwj-jetsons-car
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davebo posted:Anything electric will never be just like an old V8, and shouldn't really try. Let's find something new and awesome they can do. Can we fix it so when you mash the pedal in an EV it emits a blinding white light and then 2 seconds later makes a booming thunder sound? All EVs have some serious management of the accelerator going on, otherwise the instant full torque will roast your tires instantly any time you aren't perfectly gentle with the throttle. This is even more important on electric motorcycles, otherwise the jump from no torque to full torque in only a few degrees of the throttle is a killer, literally. Think about it. Even the most basic electric car or motorcycle needs to be reigned in significantly to stop it smoking the tires everywhere or bucking you off like a mad bronco. Badass enough for you?
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KozmoNaut posted:All EVs have some serious management of the accelerator going on, otherwise the instant full torque will roast your tires instantly any time you aren't perfectly gentle with the throttle. This is even more important on electric motorcycles, otherwise the jump from no torque to full torque in only a few degrees of the throttle is a killer, literally. When I said it wouldn't be like a V8, I was referring to Keyser's desire for a Prius to "rumble" like a big V8. Badass performance is all well and good but Keyser wants the sound. I still say lightning and thunder is a good alternative, and if they want to implement some speaker system for all EV's so blind pedestrians can hear, you've got the thunder and just add some electric noises like your car is one big Tesla coil.
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I might have posted this before, but Fisker actually designed a unique sound for their car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esPUq0UwF_g Much better than the Volt's dumb little horn chirps (it's awful, look it up yourself).
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I don't know the Volts little chirps make sense. They let the blind know hey a car is there with a familiar sound. The Fiskars sound seems like it would be scary for the blind, who have no frame of reference to associate the trony rumble with.
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BonzoESC posted:I might have posted this before, but Fisker actually designed a unique sound for their car: Fisker brought a Karma to Thunderhill several weeks ago. It sounds way too otherworldly to register as a car if you're a pedestrian that hasn't been exposed to it before. Also the packaging is thoroughly rubbish - it's like an inverse TARDIS that is much smaller on the inside than it looks. It's a triumph of style over substance, right down to the fossilized leaves in the console and doors
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BonzoESC posted:Much better than the Volt's dumb little horn chirps (it's awful, look it up yourself). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-v-pMxmHLE I dunno, poo poo makes sense to me.
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Volvo not bringing the v40 to the US RIP, another smallish wagon.
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Admirable Gusto posted:Fisker brought a Karma to Thunderhill several weeks ago. It sounds way too otherworldly to register as a car if you're a pedestrian that hasn't been exposed to it before. Also the packaging is thoroughly rubbish - it's like an inverse TARDIS that is much smaller on the inside than it looks. It's a triumph of style over substance, right down to the fossilized leaves in the console and doors It weighs almost as much as a Tahoe, that's a lot of batteries and motors to package.
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ppp posted:Volvo not bringing the v40 to the US It's closer to a hatch than a proper wagon from what I gathered.
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