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Who Killed WCW?
Eric Bischoff
Hulk Hogan
Vince Russo
Jerusalem
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triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Haha I forgot all about the martian invasion storyline.

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SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

triplexpac posted:

Haha I forgot all about the martian invasion storyline.

Can we get some cliffnotes on this because :stare:

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
He also had an idea where they'd have an invisible wrestler.

Z-Magic
Feb 19, 2011

They talk about the people and the proletariat, I talk about the suckers and the mugs - it's the same thing. They have their five-year plans, so have I.
Chikara is just a toned-down (and decent) version of what Russo wanted WCW to be. Except for the wrestlers wearing masks.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Can we get some cliffnotes on this because :stare:

This is sadly the best I could find:

quote:

The 2 hours I spent reading this started with chapter 10 entitled, "Disco Doesn't Suck". This chapter covers Vince's relationship with Glenn Gilberti, AKA The Disco Inferno. For those of you who don't know, Disco Inferno was never really all that popular in WCW. He was ok but it's really hard to believe that Disco is this great TV genius with all these great ideas when his claim to fame is coming out like John Travolta and dancing the night away. But never-the-less, Vince tries to put him over as best he can while describing Disco's best idea as one involving a martian invasion storyline in which they invade and we find out one of the announcers is one and he is the mastermind behind it all. I'll end this review with that thought in your head and return next week for further commentary on this epic classic.

Some dude has a fairly long class book report about this book here.

Chinston Wurchill fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Apr 5, 2012

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
From what I remember the Martian invasion storyline was basically just wrestlers being replaced with alien versions of themselves? It's all so hazy, I haven't read the book in a while.

It really was worth reading if you want to get a glimpse inside Russo's mind though. I'm fascinated by him, so I enjoyed it.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

triplexpac posted:

From what I remember the Martian invasion storyline was basically just wrestlers being replaced with alien versions of themselves? It's all so hazy, I haven't read the book in a while.

It really was worth reading if you want to get a glimpse inside Russo's mind though. I'm fascinated by him, so I enjoyed it.

Soap Operas do alien invasions all the time, so why not? It would have a great lead up to a halloween havoc or something.

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE

El Gallinero Gros posted:

He also had an idea where they'd have an invisible wrestler.

Not to mention the evil architect, Bill Ding.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA

coconono posted:

Soap Operas do alien invasions all the time, so why not? It would have a great lead up to a halloween havoc or something.

WCW was already invaded by aliens: Juventud Guerrera, Konnan, Psychosis...

Z-Magic
Feb 19, 2011

They talk about the people and the proletariat, I talk about the suckers and the mugs - it's the same thing. They have their five-year plans, so have I.

coconono posted:

Soap Operas do alien invasions all the time, so why not? It would have a great lead up to a halloween havoc or something.

Wait what? Is this a thing or a joke? All UK soap operas are about working-class people leading horrible lives and being miserable.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!
US Soap Operas are all about rich people who like to bang, drink, and be bad folks.

It's like a porno in which everyone keeps their clothing on.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Z-Magic posted:

Wait what? Is this a thing or a joke? All UK soap operas are about working-class people leading horrible lives and being miserable.

American Soap Operas are the exact opposite. They are universally about incredibly wealthy people with relatively insignificant problems and outrageous plot twists.

England kills off Grace Archer, America has Grace Archer turned into a billionaire split-personality vampire.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

CombineThresher posted:

Not to mention the evil architect, Bill Ding.

You know, someone like that would probably be good at a MITB match where they make complicated structures out of ladders...

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

CopywrightMMXI posted:

I went through the next 6 chapters of Russo's book. Highlights!

- The Harris brothers should have been huge stars. No one knew how to book them!

They were horrible workers and the only time they were tolerable was when they were Standards and Practices or some bullshit and they didn't cut promos or really do anything except for run-in to matches.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Edit ^^ One of them also thought it would be a fantastic career move to get covered in neo nazi tattoos.

Z-Magic posted:

Wait what? Is this a thing or a joke? All UK soap operas are about working-class people leading horrible lives and being miserable.

Dynasty spin off The Colby's ended with one of the lead characters being abducted by aliens, Dark Shadows had a vampire as one of the main characters. The rules are different, as much as the auidences are.

Skinty McEdger fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Apr 5, 2012

Ktik
Jul 10, 2004

1st AD posted:

They were horrible workers and the only time they were tolerable was when they were Standards and Practices or some bullshit and they didn't cut promos or really do anything except for run-in to matches.

I've been rewatching a lot of Nitros from 2000 before bed lately (troubles sleeping, no more!) and they are just awful. Kronik is just as bad in their APA rip off gimmick.

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
The martian thing would have been like the nWo, but the wrestlers were martians. Lance Storm would be the leader. But, Mike Tenay would be the secret mastermind, and they'd cut to a shot of him having antenas sprout from his forehead.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

CopywrightMMXI posted:

The martian thing would have been like the nWo, but the wrestlers were martians. Lance Storm would be the leader. But, Mike Tenay would be the secret mastermind, and they'd cut to a shot of him having antenas sprout from his forehead.

If they indicated "Alien Duplicate" by having the wrestlers wear deely-boppers that non-alien wrestlers couldnt see unless they were pointed out, that would have owned bones. I would unironically watch the poo poo out of that. Although wrestling invasion storylines are never handled well, at least with that one there would have been a good chance that no-ones wife would pin DDP.

Edit to add: Of course, Roddy Piper would be able to see the deely-bopper antenna, but only when wearing his sunglasses.

Sue Denim
Dec 20, 2009

SiKboy posted:

Edit to add: Of course, Roddy Piper would be able to see the deely-bopper antenna, but only when wearing his sunglasses.
What movie are you referencing? I've wanted to watch this for some time but I can never remember the title.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



They Live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lwlx3GnLGs

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Sue Denim posted:

What movie are you referencing? I've wanted to watch this for some time but I can never remember the title.

They mother fucken Live

Sikki Nixx
Sep 3, 2011

Whether you like it, or you don't like it, learn to love it! WOOOOO!
I would pay big money for a UFO on a pole match.

Professor Skittles
Jul 10, 2008
when was nitro at it's absolute peak?

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA

Professor Skittles posted:

when was nitro at it's absolute peak?

April 1996 - June 1998

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
Even before I saw your post, I was thinking May '96 to July '98. Pretty much beginning at the first 2 hour Nitro when Hall showed up, and ending with Goldberg's world title win.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
I would say it was May '96 to December 1998. Once Goldberg lost to Kevin Nash there was really no turning back and then the rape storyline and finger poke of doom sealed the deal.

Sue Denim
Dec 20, 2009

bobkatt013 posted:

They mother fucken Live

That's it! Thanks for that!

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:

bobkatt013 posted:

I would say it was May '96 to December 1998. Once Goldberg lost to Kevin Nash there was really no turning back and then the rape storyline and finger poke of doom sealed the deal.

Wait...rape storyline? :stare:

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Miching Mallecho posted:

Wait...rape storyline? :stare:

After Starrcade they did some thing where they sent Goldberg to jail because Liz said he touched her.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Lone Rogue posted:

After Starrcade they did some thing where they sent Goldberg to jail because Liz said he touched her.

And of course it turned out to be a false rape accusation. Because thats what all stories really need.

Everyone involved hated this angle by the way, and it was never mentioned ever again on nitro.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA

Lone Rogue posted:

After Starrcade they did some thing where they sent Goldberg to jail because Liz said he touched her.

And even though the opening segment established that the police station was across the street from the arena it somehow took Goldberg forever to get escorted back so he could run in on the main event.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Lone Rogue posted:

After Starrcade they did some thing where they sent Goldberg to jail because Liz said he touched her.

It was all the night of the fingerpoke of doom. They had Liz say that Goldberg attacked her and then he was arrested and sent to the jail right across the street. Later in the show it was revealed she was faking and Goldberg was released. However it took it 30 minutes to get across the street and then get beat down at the end of the show.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Huh. I assume the whole movie is not this good, or else I cannot imagine why this is not instantly mentioned as the best movie ever starring a professional wrestler. That was, like, genuine quality storytelling, and Roddy Piper actually did a decent job going from irritated that he got some stupid box of crap to terrified, all without saying a word. That is more than I can say for lots of actors, let alone wrestlers.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Quarex posted:

Huh. I assume the whole movie is not this good, or else I cannot imagine why this is not instantly mentioned as the best movie ever starring a professional wrestler. That was, like, genuine quality storytelling, and Roddy Piper actually did a decent job going from irritated that he got some stupid box of crap to terrified, all without saying a word. That is more than I can say for lots of actors, let alone wrestlers.

This IS the best movie ever starring a professional wrestler. It is in fact a drat fine movie with no qualifiers needed on that description at all and you should watch it.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
Yeah, They Live should have made Roddy Piper a big star. Unfortunately nobody else saw his potential and Tag Team only got a pilot when it would have been THE BEST SHOW EVER.

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

They Live is pretty much considered a cult classic, at this point, from what I can tell. Plus, it was made by John Carpenter. He made Halloween! It's far more of a 'legit' movie and definitely the best movie ever made starring a professional wrestler. Plus the ending is fantastic.

I came here to chew bubblegum and to kick rear end, and I'm all outta bubblegum.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

nasboat posted:

They Live is pretty much considered a cult classic, at this point, from what I can tell. Plus, it was made by John Carpenter. He made Halloween! It's far more of a 'legit' movie and definitely the best movie ever made starring a professional wrestler. Plus the ending is fantastic.

I came here to chew bubblegum and to kick rear end, and I'm all outta bubblegum.

The Princess Bride. :colbert:

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Gonzo McFee posted:

The Princess Bride. :colbert:

Truth.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Gonzo McFee posted:

The Princess Bride. :colbert:

Good point, well made. But They Live is still up there!

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oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

The answer is Over the Top

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TJXPyGynYA

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