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TurnipFritter posted:
This not so much: Nahxela posted:
Is it a Toga Party or Viking Day? To hell with it, I always look good in a sheet with horns. The purple Odin is the first I saw in Persona or SMT.
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Technique posted:Oh thank god. I'll probably be able to beat it when i try again tomorrow, then. Just FYI, if you can, leave at least one of the smaller Mizars alive at the end of the battle for a little something.
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Pureauthor posted:Just FYI, if you can, leave at least one of the smaller Mizars alive at the end of the battle for a little something. Okay so that WAS different on my second run, I didn't imagine it. Cool. If you can't be arsed/don't know what he means: If there are tiny-Mizars alive at the end they leap off the building to try and escape/multiply... then the Dragon Stream head lands on them, smashing 'em into goo.
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If it helps, my strategy for Mizar involved having a Taown to Devil Flash (and it had Multi Strike) in one party and a Kishin + Python in another. The Python I had had ridiculous Magic, Holy Dance, Drain and something else, maybe Recarm. Evil Flow (wave?) is ridiculousSyrg Sapphire posted:Okay so that WAS different on my second run, I didn't imagine it. Cool. If you can't be arsed/don't know what he means: If there are tiny-Mizars alive at the end they leap off the building to try and escape/multiply... then the Dragon Stream head lands on them, smashing 'em into goo.
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Nahxela posted:Free Battles give you the option of retreating whenever you want (from the system menu), so you can go in, kill what you can manage and retreat when you've had your fill. That way, you can gain levels/experience until you're satisfied. I like how the redesigns for the Norse Gods are all Dragon Ball Z guys
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Persona 2 Innocent Sin is fantastic. As a fan of dungeon crawlers I prefer this to P3P. The difficulty is a little lacking but the story and setting more than make up for it. I just got through a cave when mecha-nazis raided the city  Is Eternal Punishment a fitting sequel?
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A guy on the Atlus forums is doing piano covers of various music from the series. It's pretty cool.
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Pierce posted:Persona 2 Innocent Sin is fantastic. As a fan of dungeon crawlers I prefer this to P3P. The difficulty is a little lacking but the story and setting more than make up for it. I just got through a cave when mecha-nazis raided the city
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Yeah EP is a better game (from a gameplay perspective) but some of the changes made their way into the PSP re-release of IS. They are really one game that was split into two parts and are one story with different characters. The way they integrate the two is really cool and you should definitely play both. The contact system in EP is streamlined somewhat and there is more of an insensitive to play the extra stuff. Personally I like EP a bit more since the older characters are a breath of fresh air in a genre where the median age is 16 and 25 is reserved for old grizzled mentor types. All three of the new EP characters are cool in their own way and overall everyone is interesting although Maya is turned into a silent protagonist which is straight up a bad decision... IS's story is a lot weirder and heavily occult based whereas the villains for EP are more standard NWO types. Of course what ties the two games together is where EP really shines so I'm super stoked to play it again. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:21 on May 3, 2012 |
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I'll keep my excitement then! I really want a .gif of the painter in the Velvet Room. Time to study.
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Amppelix posted:The Kalevala. We need more obscure mythologies in these games, hanging out with Odin and Nyarlathothep is badass and all, but there's just so much awesome poo poo out there that we're missing out on without even being aware it exists it feels criminal.
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Welp, i somehow managed to beat Mizar, although Jungo was the only survivor, and had to take down the last set of tentacles alone. Thanks, Jungo. Thungo.  e: Guess it's time for Team Yamato to roll out. Was a tough choice, though. First time i've had a real problem choosing an alignment in SMT. Freak Futanari fucked around with this message at 00:36 on May 4, 2012 |
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Pierce posted:Persona 2 Innocent Sin is fantastic. As a fan of dungeon crawlers I prefer this to P3P. The difficulty is a little lacking but the story and setting more than make up for it. I just got through a cave when mecha-nazis raided the city  Eternal Punishment is about cool people doing cool things. (Two. Weeks.)
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TurnipFritter posted:
Is this one as grindy and boring as IS was?
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Alteisen posted:Is this one as grindy and boring as IS was? IS had some problems with loadtimes, so i guess i can get "boring", but "grindy"? I cruised through the entire game with only the Personas you got from the story, and levelling up was usually not too big a deal, either.
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i'm actually going through EP right now, I have to wonder how people who played it before realizing there was a whole other game before it thought about it. The early story kinda doesn't make any sense without that knowledge.
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Cityinthesea posted:i'm actually going through EP right now, I have to wonder how people who played it before realizing there was a whole other game before it thought about it. The early story kinda doesn't make any sense without that knowledge. Very few RPGs made much sense back then, and even many modern ones.
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Alteisen posted:Is this one as grindy and boring as IS was? I think it's safe to say that based on your tastes that EP is not the game for you. 
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Cityinthesea posted:i'm actually going through EP right now, I have to wonder how people who played it before realizing there was a whole other game before it thought about it. The early story kinda doesn't make any sense without that knowledge. Considering that it was predated by games like Xenogears and Chrono Cross, Eternal Punishment was probably seen as downright rational and straightforward at the time of release.
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Honestly I agree with some goon who posted about it a while back that the ideal way to play those games would probably be to start with Eternal Punishment, play up to Mt. Iwato, then pick up and play all the way through Innocent Sin, then go back to finish EP. Provided you were motivated to play through both as one epic enterprise without taking a huge break that caused you to lose the thread or w/e. A 70 hour JRPG is a hell of a vignette in the middle of your 70 hour JRPG.
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Eh. Without the first game, EP's opening/early game comes across as more of a mystery story than it otherwise does. It's certainly a bit weird but not inexplicable or unplayable.
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ImpAtom posted:Eh. Without the first game, EP's opening/early game comes across as more of a mystery story than it otherwise does. It's certainly a bit weird but not inexplicable or unplayable. It does get a little confusing because they namedrop Katsuya Suou, Tatsuya Suou, Tatsuya Sudou, and Tatsuzou Sudou like in the first hour or so, and that's just a whole mess in English.
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I still argue that you lose more from not being able to pick up on the IS parallels from the beginning of EP than you gain from the mystery. The worst part in going IS-EP is the massive loss of plot momentum you get from having to start over with a new team. That and the dungeon reuse really kills playing them back to back. If you take a break it feels a bit fresher and a lot less grindy. The Mt. Iwato recap is in there for a reason!
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Cityinthesea posted:i'm actually going through EP right now, I have to wonder how people who played it before realizing there was a whole other game before it thought about it. The early story kinda doesn't make any sense without that knowledge. Well considering it spoils the ending of IS on the first goddamn page of the manual of the original English release of EP (NO I AM NOT BITTER WHY DO YOU ASK?) I don't think it's that big of a deal. Yeah you have no idea what's going on but it's more an issue of not knowing the characters than not knowing the events. I still need to try and drink what I know of EP outta my head before trying the portable IS re-release.
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Ryoshi posted:Well considering it spoils the ending of IS on the first goddamn page of the manual of the original English release of EP Since we didn't get IS back then wasn't it a good call of their part to do this?
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So the P5 fan-soundtrack person even uploaded a frickin' PV.
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You now what's a really simultaneously horrible and awesome idea? Watching a documentary about a serial killer while you're playing through a second playthrough of Persona 4. It makes the tone of the events in late July change completely. Because OF COURSE, I ended up watching that documentary right before the late July/early August dungeon opened up. Mitsuo's Void Quest. It's doubly as worse on a second playthrough because (SERIOUS SPOILERS FOR THE GOOD ENDING) you're interacting with two different kinds of killers: both Mitsuo AND Adachi, who are each horrifying in their own way. Interacting with Adachi has been super horrifying on this playthrough, because he's managing to suppress his real self enough to live a normal life and good enough at acting to manipulate people without them knowing.
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Catalina posted:You now what's a really simultaneously horrible and awesome idea? Watching a documentary about a serial killer while you're playing through a second playthrough of Persona 4. It makes the tone of the events in late July change completely. Because OF COURSE, I ended up watching that documentary right before the late July/early August dungeon opened up. Mitsuo's Void Quest. It's even worse because he was not that good, so at times, you get those nasty little slip up that someone on their second playthrough will immediatly catch on and it reminds you that yeah, he is a sociopath, and yeah, he was eating alongside you and Nanako.
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In Devil Survivor 2, is a character's in-battle speed affected by the demons on their team, or is it based solely on the character's own speed stat?
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It's the demons. Everyone has a default move of 4 and only racial skills on demons change that.
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Actually, when I said speed, I was referring to how soon a character gets their next turn again after having moved/attacked/etc. Because I took Hinako into a free battle to try her and Keita out and was incredulous at how slow she was.
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Benetnasch. Why. Why would this be... how. Why? 
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Technique posted:Benetnasch. Why. Why would this be... how. Why? If this is just a reaction to the first fight, then ignore the rest of this. Yeah at first he seems like the most dickish boss Atlus could throw at you, however the thing is from what I can tell he never summons more minions after the first wave so once you kill the 6 mini-Dubhes, you're free to patch up and take your time. If you really want, get a Vile and Dragon together - Chaos Breath and Evil Flow stack, granting you 8 range to his 7.
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Technique posted:Benetnasch. Why. Why would this be... how. Why? If you haven't started abusing Dragons yet you deserve your fate.
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Axle_Stukov posted:If this is just a reaction to the first fight, then ignore the rest of this. That right there is a helluva tip, and you probably just saved my sanity. e: Well, that was one push-over boss with that strategy. Thanks, dude. e2: Googly-eyed dragon is still the cutest dragon. 
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W.T. Fits posted:Actually, when I said speed, I was referring to how soon a character gets their next turn again after having moved/attacked/etc. All playable characters have the same base speed except for the Anguished One, who's significantly faster. Apart from that, if one character is getting fewer turns than others there are a few possible reasons: * They're taking more actions. Moving and attacking push back your next turn significantly, and spells or demon abilities push it back slightly. * They're getting attacked more. Every time an enemy attacks you, your next turn is pushed back a little. * Somebody has a demon that modifies the turn cost of some actions. Dragons and Viles increase the cost of attacking, while a Genma decreases the cost of moving.
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Persona 3 venting follows: Ok, what the gently caress is with these goddamn arcane turrets and their million HP and dealing more damage than any of my characters have HP? And then they're paired up with these gear assholes who already killed me once with their all-fear. And then an errant crit makes MC fall down so I can't even change other member's tactics and of course they gently caress everything up and I'm dead. That wasn't my fault! I couldn't have done anything! Rrrrrrgh.
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Amppelix posted:Persona 3 venting follows: Welcome to Atluses idea of a challenge. :iamafag:
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Amppelix posted:Persona 3 venting follows: Just level up a lot. It's pretty much the solution to everything (so far, am in December I think)
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