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RageBeef
Jul 27, 2010

TOASTY!
Anyone got any recommendations as to where I should place the Port Crystal that you get from Bluemoon Tower? I'm thinking of the rest stop in the southwest so I can have easy access to that area of the map.

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Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

RageBeef posted:

Anyone got any recommendations as to where I should place the Port Crystal that you get from Bluemoon Tower? I'm thinking of the rest stop in the southwest so I can have easy access to that area of the map.

Place it somewhere outside Bluemoon for now because there's another quest later on that'll have you going back there.

Fizzil
Aug 24, 2005

There are five fucks at the edge of a cliff...



RageBeef posted:

Anyone got any recommendations as to where I should place the Port Crystal that you get from Bluemoon Tower? I'm thinking of the rest stop in the southwest so I can have easy access to that area of the map.

You get a shortcut via the Ancient Quarry, i think the best bet for the first portcrystal is to stick it somewhere in the north, or near Cassardis cause going through the mountain path sucks.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
So how the gently caress do I catch this thief in the starting town? I hit him, try to grab him, he just shrugs it off and keeps running, I try to chase him, he runs out of town and I fail the quest, I try to just grab him straight up, he shrugs it off and runs out of town.

EDIT: I got him. What a stupid quest.

Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 05:59 on May 28, 2012

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

I stuck it right outside the encampment because I hate going back and forth through the mountain pass a million times.

Dan Didio posted:

So how the gently caress do I catch this thief in the starting town? I hit him, try to grab him, he just shrugs it off and keeps running, I try to chase him, he runs out of town and I fail the quest, I try to just grab him straight up, he shrugs it off and runs out of town.

Switch to strider/ranger and knock him over with full bend/dire arrow then run up and grab him before he gets up. That's how I did it.

Mercedes
Mar 7, 2006

"So you Jesus?"

"And you black?"

"Nigga prove it!"

And so Black Jesus turned water into a bucket of chicken. And He saw that it was good.




Duchess talk: has anyone let that bitch get choked out? Can you? What happens afterwards?

Eddain
May 6, 2007

Dan Didio posted:

So how the gently caress do I catch this thief in the starting town? I hit him, try to grab him, he just shrugs it off and keeps running, I try to chase him, he runs out of town and I fail the quest, I try to just grab him straight up, he shrugs it off and runs out of town.

He's a fast fucker and I don't think you'd ever catch up to him even with the lowest weight on your main guy. He usually runs along a set path, coming up from the beach road and then running up towards the church. You can either wait in the market area for him to run by or go up to the roof of the market buildings and jump on him once he runs by. You have to hit him a few times until he's staggered, and then hold your grab button in order to catch him.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but as a Mage, you can manually aim spells by clicking in the left stick while charging them up. If you do this for buffs, it makes them auto-target your character.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Policenaut posted:

Place it somewhere outside Bluemoon for now because there's another quest later on that'll have you going back there.

Wait what quest are you talking about? I've never gotten it and I'm in the post-game content. I really want to get past that gate / locked door.

Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 06:04 on May 28, 2012

ChibiSoma
Apr 13, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Dan Didio posted:

So how the gently caress do I catch this thief in the starting town? I hit him, try to grab him, he just shrugs it off and keeps running, I try to chase him, he runs out of town and I fail the quest, I try to just grab him straight up, he shrugs it off and runs out of town.

EDIT: I got him. What a stupid quest.

Step 1) Go Strider.
Step 2) Ensnare.
Step 3) RT/R2.

I chased the bastard around trying to do it legit for awhile before shrugging and just throwing wires at the bastard to catch him up. Shoulda done it from the start, would've saved me a few minutes.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Wait what quest are you talking about? I've never gotten it and I'm in the post-game content. I really want to get past that gate / locked door.

There's a quest to chase a griffin to Bluemoon and a quest to chase a sorcerer there too. Both are regular game quests. I believe one might be story mandated and the other a notice board.

Mercedes posted:

Duchess talk: has anyone let that bitch get choked out? Can you? What happens afterwards?

I did this first time around. It's not very good. You can let her die. It's like a solid minute of her getting strangled to death. Afterwards, the Duke flips out again and realizes what he's done and runs away. Then the game automatically kicks you out of the bedroom, a guard arrests you, and you fail the quest to no reward.

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.

Test-0 posted:

So, uh, I might have over done it in the Griffin quest... When I lured it in to land in the spot you give it a goblin snack, I proceeded to alpha strike it so heavily with a double Arc of Might from both me and my pawn that it was completely stun locked and what followed was like dropping a piano on a pigeon. Several flaming pianos. I think I've seen the same quest done by others and it was meant to fly away and lead you to some ruins somewhere where you have an epic showdown. That, uh, didn't happen. It's kinda dead. A lot.

Did I just destroy my chances at getting into that place, or can I just wander in whenever I feel like it?

Haha, drat this makes me want to roll a warrior. My warrior main pawn seems to have pretty lovely AI. I always want to him to go berserk and run in and start hacking the gently caress out of everybody but he doesn't, even though I've changed his inclination to Scather/Challenger. The sorcerer and strider pawns I rent seem to be pretty hesitant to fully and aggressively engage as well, actually. The only one that seems to be fairly reliable in terms of playing it's role is the support Mage.

Blunt Force Trauma
Mar 16, 2008

No one gives a fuck about shit.
So fuck your shit.
We fuck shit up,
Cause shit's fucked anyway.
Shit is run in to the ground.

I don't wanna think about it,
I just wanna get down.
So I just got to Grand Soren.

How do I find quests that I can actually do? Every quest I'm given is far beyond my abilities and has me fighting enemies that kill me in one hit and take no damage from my attacks :(

I tried doing the caves under the Pawn Guild and it was okay because I gave my main pawn a holy weapon enchant, but then I got to the part where I choose between fighting an ogre or fighting some kind of wizard that just one-shot my entire party before I could even see him. I can't even damage the Ogre.

Blunt Force Trauma fucked around with this message at 06:39 on May 28, 2012

Clocks
Oct 2, 2007



So I never did the Madeline (I think?) escort quest to shadow fortress and now it seems disappeared/gone from the notice board. What have I lost out on due to this? :(


vvv the first time I chased him around the city like 3x and eventually lost him. Restarted it, did the same thing. Walked out, milled around for a bit, he came running around the bend and I snatched him before he realized what was going on.

Clocks fucked around with this message at 06:39 on May 28, 2012

greg sexyvibes
May 7, 2007
IF I EVER FIRST POST AGAIN SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN TO ME

ChibiSoma posted:

Step 1) Go Strider.
Step 2) Ensnare.
Step 3) RT/R2.

I chased the bastard around trying to do it legit for awhile before shrugging and just throwing wires at the bastard to catch him up. Shoulda done it from the start, would've saved me a few minutes.

I exited the INN and we walked straight into each other. I hit the grab button and he was caught. I'm a warrior and I had left town for Gransys already so maybe thats why.

I wish the pawns would stop saying Aught all the time. It's starting to wear thin on me.

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


How much more game is there after you meet with the Duke?

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.

Blunt Force Trauma posted:

So I just got to Grand Soren.

How do I find quests that I can actually do? Every quest I'm given is far beyond my abilities and has me fighting enemies that kill me in one hit and take no damage from my attacks :(

I tried doing the caves under the Pawn Guild and it was okay because I gave my main pawn a holy weapon enchant, but then I got to the part where I choose between fighting an ogre or fighting some kind of wizard that just one-shot my entire party before I could even see him.

The Skeleton Mage detour should be doable but if all else fails just run past the Ogre while you keep hitting the down arrow so your pawns stick with you. Eventually he'll drop aggro, I think. At least I do it all the time in the field and it works with everything so far.

Did you make sure you got all the previous quests at Casardis and the Encampment? It's easy to miss them. Some notable ones will have you catching a thief, going down into a well, and looking for someone's dad who is a gardener at Gran Soren.

Blunt Force Trauma
Mar 16, 2008

No one gives a fuck about shit.
So fuck your shit.
We fuck shit up,
Cause shit's fucked anyway.
Shit is run in to the ground.

I don't wanna think about it,
I just wanna get down.
I tried the quest in the Well and got slaughtered, so I assumed I was supposed to head back to Casardis later. I guess I'll head back and check out the others.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Freighter S. is on the field, ready to hold people in headlocks while you stab their vital organs. Tried to make him generally Scather/Challenger to kill everything and hold attention, for use with ranged vocations. If anyone uses him tell me if I should change his AI.

Just got to Gran Soren, level 13 or so. I've got the 2 escorts from the inn board, the generic kill-things board quests, the grimoire quest, and then the Everfall deal. Am I missing anything major from Gran Soren and and should these all stick around for a while? I've heard about the escorts disappearing but apparently they're almost impossible to do at the level where you can access them.

Edit: Also I didn't get the thief and gardener quests from Cassardis mentioned above, are those gone now or do you just have to get them at a certain time of day or something? I thought I checked the whole town thoroughly.

Owl Inspector fucked around with this message at 07:02 on May 28, 2012

Manxome Foe
Apr 6, 2005

Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!

The Moon Monster posted:

I think I'm going to go for the Jester on my NG+ playthrough so I can see what happens if you Take the wyrm's bargain without feeling bad.
it's always the same thing you let the dragon kill the person then you're the duke and you make a sad face and then it's game over

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Sankis posted:

How much more game is there after you meet with the Duke?

Hours and hours. That's like 1/6th of the way through the game.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
So, I decided I'm gonna go fight the dragon, but first I want to know which status ailments work best, and which ones won't even work on it. Anyone with a guide mind posting those in a spoiler tag for me?

MadJackMcJack
Jun 10, 2009
Idol stuff. I've given the armourer the bronze idol and now he won't accept the silver idol from me Have I buggered any chance of him taking it?

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.

Blunt Force Trauma posted:

I tried the quest in the Well and got slaughtered, so I assumed I was supposed to head back to Casardis later. I guess I'll head back and check out the others.

Yeah, give that a shot, make sure you check the quest boards in both Casardis and the Encampment. I missed them myself but there's some decent xp for that level and you get a lot of "kill 10 whatevers" quests that are easier to complete overtime if you grab them early on.

Gestalt Intellect posted:

Freighter S. is on the field, ready to hold people in headlocks while you stab their vital organs. Tried to make him generally Scather/Challenger to kill everything and hold attention, for use with ranged vocations. If anyone uses him tell me if I should change his AI.

Just got to Gran Soren, level 13 or so. I've got the 2 escorts from the inn board, the generic kill-things board quests, the grimoire quest, and then the Everfall deal. Am I missing anything major from Gran Soren and and should these all stick around for a while? I've heard about the escorts disappearing but apparently they're almost impossible to do at the level where you can access them.

Edit: Also I didn't get the thief and gardener quests from Cassardis mentioned above, are those gone now or do you just have to get them at a certain time of day or something? I thought I checked the whole town thoroughly.

I've had some of the escort quests disappear, then come back, then disappear again. I couldn't see any pattern to it. The escort quests are doable at that level, but it'll just consist of you running from everything pretty much the entire time, in the dark, with no real idea where you're going since you're still de-fogging the map as you go along. And you'll end up saving after almost every successful escape just to keep inching your way forward. It's grueling as hell but it does kind feel rewarding if you pull it off. I wouldn't recommend to anyone who only just got to Gran Soren in hindsight though, (that's pretty much when I did it). However if you see a quest reward that looks like you might be able to use it, give a shot.

As for the Casardis quests I went back and did it at level 37 since I was in the area and it was a quickie, so it should probably still be available. You might have to look around a bit during a different time of day. I've had quest people not show up right in the morning. The gardener quest is called An Innocent Man, and is obtained from Tomlin and the thief quest is called "An Uninvited Guest" and I can't remember exactly who gave it to me and it doesn't say in the completed quest notes but check the board, the innkeeper and anyone just hanging around during the day in Casardis.

Compared to the quests you get at Gran Soren the stuff you do at Casardis and the Encampment is incredibly easy and much more in line with what you expect from traditional role playing games these days. I think Samurai mentioned it earlier but with the exception of the Everfall quest and a very few others the Gran Soren quests are truly epic feeling in nature because you really do go on a long rear end journey.

e: vvv Ah, that could be it, yeah.

-Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 07:27 on May 28, 2012

jerichojx
Oct 21, 2010
I think you only get to do those after you reach Gran Soren?

I got the thief one after I went back to check on Quinna after reaching Gran Soren

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?
Hahaha, found the female bandit camp:

Putting on the Lady's Garb set allowed my male main talk to her, and she even offered me a spot. What happens if you join the thieves?

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

I've been jumping from class to class and so far Mystic Knight is my least favorite. Maybe I just need to unlock more skills but all of the shield skills are pretty awkward. So I need to cast it and then block to fire it off right? I then have to recast it after every block? The Demonspite will fire off a little stun if I cast it again but it's still a lot of casting time for a minor stun.

The Sky slash is nice, but I've gotten so used to Burst Strike it just feels like a half rear end alternative. I can't hit flying creatures with it and Burst hits regular mobs better.

I do, however, want to mix in some magic with my melee so maybe I'll try the Archer next. If I could equip the staff in one hand and the sword in the other it would be great but switching back and forth isn't good enough. I prefer sword to dagger moves but otherwise Archer might be a better fit.

Azraden
Oct 26, 2010

Ooh - a crevice
Haha holy poo poo this game got even more insane. (NG+ post-game ending spoilers)
So when I beat it the first time I fought god and it was the dude from the prologue. Now I just got to the point again and it's a woman I've never seen before! What the gently caress is going on? :psyduck:

edit: Also her pawn looks exactly like her and her name is in Japanese.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

-Blackadder- posted:

The gardener quest is called An Innocent Man, and is obtained from Tomlin

Who/where is Tomlin?

Tricky
Jun 12, 2007

after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage


PunkBoy posted:

Hahaha, found the female bandit camp:

Putting on the Lady's Garb set allowed my male main talk to her, and she even offered me a spot. What happens if you join the thieves?

Like the male bandits, they give you a quest to prove your loyalty by killing bandits from the rival group. I'd imagine the reward is a token of some sort like the one you get from the male version of the quest.

Eddain
May 6, 2007
If you haven't yet, definitely get the Sinew augment from Fighter lvl 5. It increases your carry capacity by 10kg, which seems to be entirely frontloaded onto the "Very Light" bar rather than spread evenly throughout the entire thing.

FZeroRacer
Apr 8, 2009

Azraden posted:

Haha holy poo poo this game got even more insane. (NG+ post-game ending spoilers)
So when I beat it the first time I fought god and it was the dude from the prologue. Now I just got to the point again and it's a woman I've never seen before! What the gently caress is going on? :psyduck:

edit: Also her pawn looks exactly like her and her name is in Japanese.


Maybe The game uploads a version of your Arisen as well, and in any subsequent NG+ it chooses a random Arisen and their pawn? Makes sense considering the game seems to like the whole parallel worlds and endless cycle thing.

Azraden
Oct 26, 2010

Ooh - a crevice

FZeroRacer posted:

Maybe The game uploads a version of your Arisen as well, and in any subsequent NG+ it chooses a random Arisen and their pawn? Makes sense considering the game seems to like the whole parallel worlds and endless cycle thing.

That would be pretty neat if true. That would also make sense since the godthing has both male and female voices before it reveals who is under the cloak

Spike McMayhem
Jun 3, 2005

Mind if I rape ye, then?
Alright, now that I've witnessed my character scuttling all over a cow like some kind of cockroach, this is officially GOTY.

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.

Policenaut posted:

Who/where is Tomlin?

If I remember correctly he was a blond haired kid I came across walking around near the inn when I went back to Casardis, he said something about his dad who is a gardener at Gran Soren going missing and asked if I would go there an investigate. I'm pretty sure it's just an old low level quest I missed early on.

Nyancromancer
Dec 31, 2008

Spike McMayhem posted:

Alright, now that I've witnessed my character scuttling all over a cow like some kind of cockroach, this is officially GOTY.

Hey man, have your heart ripped out by a dragon! I bet you'll do some weird poo poo too!

Sexual Aluminum
Jun 21, 2003

is made of candy
Soiled Meat
What actually does more damage, a mace with for example 250 str and 250 magic, and is always on fire, or a mace with 400 str?

Miijhal
Jul 10, 2011

I am so tired... I am so tired all the time...

low-key-taco posted:

I do, however, want to mix in some magic with my melee so maybe I'll try the Archer next. If I could equip the staff in one hand and the sword in the other it would be great but switching back and forth isn't good enough. I prefer sword to dagger moves but otherwise Archer might be a better fit.
Magick Archers are pretty great. It's what I've made my character, and it's worth noting that a lot of the magic-based dagger skills have no charge time. The bow lets you hit enemies from as far away as you can see them, enough so that the enemies sometimes don't seem to be able to tell what the hell happened. I've somehow managed to make a harpy fall off a cliff doing that.

I honestly can't help but feel I'm overpowered.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
So I saved Selene from the mob in Witchwood, it was night so I had to fight the Golem in total darkness and now she lives in my house. My question is, have I adopted her or is she now classed as a love interest?

Unrelated to this, being mobbed by Skeletons at night outside Gran Soren is giving me flashbacks to OoT and the Stalkids who'd constantly spawn in Hyrule Field at night, its pretty cool.

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Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I'm starting to get immensely frustrated here. How the hell am I supposed to tell if Bandit Group A is fish food and Bandit Group B is going to be more difficult to fight than a sodding ogre? I mean I know the DS comparisons are getting old by now but at least DS's enemies weren't sodding palette swaps. :mad:

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