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You know, I'm halfway convinced The Exorcist III is better than the original. Halfway.
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jeremy oval office posted:You know, I'm halfway convinced The Exorcist III is better than the original. If that's the one with the hospital scare, then yeah, it is the best one. It may be a jump scare, but it's a great one.
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May 27, 2012 08:19
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I've thought so myself on occasion, but no, Exorcist III is utterly marred by its botched ending IMO. There's a lot to like about it - Father Mornings speech is one of the great "Get thee behind me Satan" moments in cinema - but the whole thing is just kind of hysterical and unnecessary. Great film though. The shot of the stairs at the beginning with Tubular Bells playing is one of my favourite singular images in horror.
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May 27, 2012 11:27
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jeremy oval office posted:You know, I'm halfway convinced The Exorcist III is better than the original. I like it a lot, and sadly it was botched in the editing room by execs who wanted more 'scares'. William Freidkin recently did an AMA on Reddit and someone mentioned that at one time he like WPB's idea so much that he was interested in directing but dropped out, the poster wanted to know why but sadly Freidkin just avoided the question. He did later say that all the sequels and ripoffs were poo poo though. I think it's severely underrated, and suffers from being labelled an Exorcist sequel. Again through no fault of Blatty's. It's tied to that film obviously, but it wasn't seen as a direct sequel to it.
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May 27, 2012 11:31
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I like Exorcist 3, it's definitely the best sequel but that is a backhanded compliment. In a lot of ways it's an absolute mess of a film - the tone is all over the place, the performances and dialogue and stagey and fake-sounding, it's loaded with the kind of heavy-handed symbolism that Friedkin didn't like in Blatty's first draft for the original and wanted to avoid, some scenes feel unfinished or hastily cut and the ending, although entirely due to studio interference and unreasonable demands, is awful. There's enough good in there to make it an interesting curiosity, but I don't know how people can compare it to the original. It has the potential to at least approach it, but for the most part it never really works. I would recommend reading the book it's based on though because it's really, really good - almost frustrating when you realise what the film could have been. A better Blatty directed sort-of sequel to the The Exorcist is The Ninth Configuration. It's not really a horror, and it's only a sequel spiritually (although one of the main characters is the astronaut from the party in the first film), but it has a very similar style to the third film, although it's much more cohesive because it seems like Blatty was given free reign. Jason Miller is great in a supporting role, too.
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May 27, 2012 20:46
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The Ninth Configuration is a very, very strange movie.
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May 27, 2012 20:59
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I straight up through-and-through loathed The Ninth Configuration when I saw it, but I still wonder if that was a failing on my end, not the film's.
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May 27, 2012 21:11
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I know, Blatty has a bizarre style that's very artificial or overly theatrical that is let completely loose in The Ninth Configuration. Because he can indulge it I think it works, whereas in Exorcist 3 in some places it's restrained and others it comes out and creates an awkward contrast. It doesn't sit right next to the original either.
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May 27, 2012 21:13
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Not sure how the Innkeepers came from the same guy as The House of The Devil. Innkeepers was absolute boring poo poo and I wanted to call Amazon and get my money back. Made it through about 45 minutes. I've never not finished a movie before
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May 27, 2012 21:53
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Toaster Beef posted:which is when the rest of the movie became a bunch of running through dark corridors. Uri really wasn't all that sketchy. Other than taking a bunch of stupid kids into the Exclusion Zone despite being told not to.
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May 27, 2012 23:15
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Mustached5thGrader posted:Not sure how the Innkeepers came from the same guy as The House of The Devil. Innkeepers was absolute boring poo poo and I wanted to call Amazon and get my money back. Made it through about 45 minutes. I've never not finished a movie before Yeah a lot of people were saying good things about The Innkeepers, and I was totally ready to love it, but instead I was just really disappointed. House of the Devil is a much better movie.
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May 27, 2012 23:31
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Casimir Radon posted:Low budget movies tend to do this to fill time, and that's generally when they go downhill. Radioactive Dreams comes to mind. I thought he was when he kicked the ashes of the fire. I thought he was trying to hide evidence of previous people or something and I was a little bummed that he ends up being monster mush.
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May 27, 2012 23:35
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SO was the monsters in Chernobyl Diaries just mutated cannibal hillbillies ala The Hills Have Eyes? That's what I got out of the previews for the movie. I already saw that movie and the only thing this looked like it had going was the location which looked awesome. I guess I'm just wondering if there was more to the "monsters" than that.
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May 27, 2012 23:48
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The Ninth Configuration is a very, very strange movie. Agreed.
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May 28, 2012 00:57
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Ramadu posted:SO was the monsters in Chernobyl Diaries just mutated cannibal hillbillies ala The Hills Have Eyes? That's what I got out of the previews for the movie. I already saw that movie and the only thing this looked like it had going was the location which looked awesome. I guess I'm just wondering if there was more to the "monsters" than that. That's basically it. There was a mental hospital that contained people that had been mutated by the fallout and they escaped from the hospital and wandered throughout Pripyat and the reactor. These patients are the ones who killed all of the main characters.
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May 28, 2012 01:31
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VaultAggie posted:I thought he was when he kicked the ashes of the fire. I thought he was trying to hide evidence of previous people or something and I was a little bummed that he ends up being monster mush. I did like the small bits of his character development trying to fight through the script in the scenes right before that. The first one is where he gets irritated at the guy who he thinks is going to steal the watch. He tells him not to touch it because it's contaminated, but you can tell he has a lot of disdain for anyone who would loot stuff from the buildings. Then there's the scene where he walks into the next room and is looking around almost sadly, unless I was just reading into something that wasn't there. RightClickSaveAs fucked around with this message at 02:15 on May 28, 2012 |
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May 28, 2012 02:13
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:That's basically it. There was a mental hospital that contained people that had been mutated by the fallout and they escaped from the hospital and wandered throughout Pripyat and the reactor. These patients are the ones who killed all of the main characters. This actually kind of makes me wince. There's potential to do a lot of fun, interesting stuff with that setting and that's what they went with? :mryuck:
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May 28, 2012 02:17
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Toaster Beef posted:Chernobyl Diaries is solid for about forty minutes, but after a very specific point it devolves into a standard horror movie that could've taken place anywhere. Total waste of the atmosphere. And the scares didn't compensate at all. You know, the exact same thing could be said of The Descent, but folks around here loving love that movie.
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May 28, 2012 05:11
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Has anyone seen the Woman in Black and whether it's a good movie or not? I really need my horror fix, the last good one I saw was Cabin. Ugh, not enough good horror. Also Bloodydisgustings.com new system and lay out sucks everything looks like it's ranked five. I just felt like making a complaint about that too.
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May 28, 2012 05:12
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RightClickSaveAs posted:I took that as him just not wanting to freak them all out more, after the issues they had already, but it was kind of suspicious. It doesn't develop into anything definite though, and he seemed really surprised himself whenever something went wrong. Hollis posted:Has anyone seen the Woman in Black and whether it's a good movie or not? I really need my horror fix, the last good one I saw was Cabin. Ugh, not enough good horror. Also Bloodydisgustings.com new system and lay out sucks everything looks like it's ranked five. I just felt like making a complaint about that too.
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May 28, 2012 05:31
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Hollis posted:Has anyone seen the Woman in Black and whether it's a good movie or not? I really need my horror fix, the last good one I saw was Cabin. Ugh, not enough good horror. Also Bloodydisgustings.com new system and lay out sucks everything looks like it's ranked five. I just felt like making a complaint about that too. I saw it in theaters and thought it was pretty drat boring. Seemed like something Daniel Radcliffe starred in just to make a buck. I didn't find it scary in the least.
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May 28, 2012 05:39
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Hollis posted:Has anyone seen the Woman in Black and whether it's a good movie or not? I really need my horror fix, the last good one I saw was Cabin. Ugh, not enough good horror. Also Bloodydisgustings.com new system and lay out sucks everything looks like it's ranked five. I just felt like making a complaint about that too. It's basically "Jump Scare: The Movie," and the best thing I could probably say about the film is that it's pretty standard fare. Radcliffe is competent, and I think he does a fairly good job of carrying the film.
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May 28, 2012 07:33
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Ornamented Death posted:You know, the exact same thing could be said of The Descent, but folks around here loving love that movie. I agree with you completely and the collective cock sucking of this movie, that occurred (mostly online), was weird.
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May 28, 2012 08:44
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Dissapointed Owl posted:I agree with you completely and the collective cock sucking of this movie, that occurred (mostly online), was weird. Not that its inclusion on my horror class syllabus has much bearing (the professor also selected My Little Eye, which is little more than an interesting failure), but it's one of only three films made in the last decade that we're watching in that class, the other two being Monsters and Attack the Block. In fact, The Descent is the last movie we'll watch this term; I'm excited to see it again in a classroom setting. Also, the sequel's pretty solid too. It's not quite The Descent, and it never strays far from its source, but it goes for some pretty exhilarating set pieces. On another note, I've been considering doing this extra credit thing on recent French horror, and I just watched Sheitan a.k.a. I Don't Know What the gently caress I Just Watched. ... It's never boring, I guess? I just never thought I'd see a real-life game of Red Rocket unfold onscreen, let alone in a movie that's equally inspired by Deliverance and acid trips. Oh well, at least it was better than Calvaire. Still not as good as Inside, Martyrs or Them, though.
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May 28, 2012 11:14
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trip9 posted:Yeah a lot of people were saying good things about The Innkeepers, and I was totally ready to love it, but instead I was just really disappointed. House of the Devil is a much better movie. Innkeepers actually rules, but it is less comedic and much more character-centric than House of the Devil, which stayed tied to one subjectivity throughout. It's extremely empathic and, like any good ghost story, not actually about the ghosts. It's important to keep in mind that the first half (or so) of the film is an extremely deadpan 'lovely job' comedy based around Sara Paxton's excellent performance. It's not so much horror 'til later in the film - and even then it's more heartbreaking than scary. In that sense, it's House of the Devil in reverse. Where House of the Devil quietly built up to gonzo 'Evil Dead' exploitation, Innkeepers frontloads the comedy to disarm you. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 11:49 on May 28, 2012 |
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May 28, 2012 11:47
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Casimir Radon posted:Low budget movies tend to do this to fill time, and that's generally when they go downhill. Radioactive Dreams comes to mind. Along those lines, I thought it was pretty good we didn't actually see much of the radioactive crazy people. One of the few things I thought Chernobyl Diaries really got right, and it probably came more out of necessity than anything else.
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May 28, 2012 12:49
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Even if it weren't awesome in like every other way, the Descent has some of the best cinematography I've ever seen in a horror movie.
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May 28, 2012 14:18
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Urgh, I watched Woman in Black last night. I was pretty bored. There's a couple of decent jump scares but Daniel Radcliffe is so utterly emotionless in this film (he reminded me of Keanu Reeves in Dracula, except with even fewer facial expressions) and it never felt at all tense. I was just sat waiting for the next time there'd be a creepy face or a mysterious figure somewhere in the shot but didn't really care or feel anxious about it popping up. I'm on a bit of a horror movie kick these past few days, and I've got Lake Mungo and The Silent House lined up for tonight. Just waiting for the sun to go down...
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May 28, 2012 19:56
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President Anime 2008 posted:Urgh, I watched Woman in Black last night. I was pretty bored. Good luck with that.
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May 28, 2012 20:23
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I am also one of the recent home-viewers of The Woman in Black, and my basic reaction is that it's nicely made and inoffensive. Some of the imagery works well, some of it is rather standard. Apart from that, the movie is just kind of there -- The Innkeepers told a much better classic-style ghost story, and it wasn't even a period piece. I suppose in TWiB's defense, I was constantly comparing it to the stage-play, which is similarly filled with jump scares but also is surprisingly sophisticated in how it deals with notions of theater performance, identity, and haunting. Obviously these things aren't well preserved in the transition to film. Also I guess I should rewatch The Descent sometime this summer. I was really underwhelmed with it on my first viewing and was confused by the love it got.
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May 28, 2012 20:23
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's extremely empathic and, like any good ghost story, not actually about the ghosts. It's important to keep in mind that the first half (or so) of the film is an extremely deadpan 'lovely job' comedy based around Sara Paxton's excellent performance. It's not so much horror 'til later in the film - and even then it's more heartbreaking than scary. We have been agreeing a lot lately, my man. Heartbreaking is exactly how I'd describe The Innkeepers. I will say the sense of dread that creeps in towards the end of the film does lead to some excellent scares. It's just that nothing scary happens for a good run time, so most people get bored and don't care. I loved every second of the character building, and it makes it so much more distressing when the scary stuff happens, because you care about the characters.
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May 28, 2012 20:25
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President Anime 2008 posted:I'm on a bit of a horror movie kick these past few days, and I've got Lake Mungo and The Silent House lined up for tonight. Just waiting for the sun to go down...
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May 28, 2012 20:28
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I take it Lake Mungo wasn't hugely well received here? I really enjoyed it. Maybe it's not really a 'horror'... I love David Lynch stuff, and this felt a lot like an homage to the darker sides of Twin Peaks. The sound and music was excellent and made me feel really uncomfortable throughout - a lot like Angelo Badalamenti's droning, ambient scores are for Lynch. No real jump scares, no gore, but a constant feeling of dread. It reminds me of when I watched Inland Empire with a friend when it came out, and she texted me to say "You know... that film wasn't scary, except I normally enjoy walking home after a movie but this time I just couldn't wait to get home and feel safe." It's been a while since something made me feel this uneasy. Gonna watch the Silent House tomorrow instead now.
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May 29, 2012 00:01
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President Anime 2008 posted:I take it Lake Mungo wasn't hugely well received here? I really enjoyed it. Maybe it's not really a 'horror'... I love David Lynch stuff, and this felt a lot like an homage to the darker sides of Twin Peaks. The sound and music was excellent and made me feel really uncomfortable throughout - a lot like Angelo Badalamenti's droning, ambient scores are for Lynch. No real jump scares, no gore, but a constant feeling of dread. I'd say it was very well received, however it's pretty boring and not a lot happens in it that is very horrific. So when he said he was bored by one and was looking forward to the other, it is pretty funny.
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May 29, 2012 00:13
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Silent House...that was the one with Daniel Craig, huh? If so, I saw that one but it was completely forgettable. Kinda like Woman In Black. I don't think any part of that movie struck me as being particularly unsettling.
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May 29, 2012 00:23
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Silent House...that was the one with Daniel Craig, huh? If so, I saw that one but it was completely forgettable. Kinda like Woman In Black. I don't think any part of that movie struck me as being particularly unsettling. You're thinking of Dream House. Silent House is the one that is shot all in one take and blows.
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May 29, 2012 00:25
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I thought it was ok. Could have been way better though. All suspense with not much payoff.
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May 29, 2012 00:44
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I watched Chernobyl Diaries with some friends this weekend. I thought it was overall very, very mediocre, but the scenes of them walking around Pripyat are incredibly eerie. I loved BEARNOBYL. After that we watched We Need to Talk About Kevin, which has been on my mind since I watched it. What a hosed up movie. It stars Tilda Swinton and John C Reilly as a couple who decide to have their first child in their late thirties, a boy named Kevin. Even as a very young child, he is vicious, manipulative, selfish, and emotionless and is a sociopath in the making. The story switches between pre- and post- monstrous act of cruelty that Kevin commits. Ezra Miller looks sort of like a prettyboy Evil Jonas Brother but was awesomely creepy and malicious, John C Reilly is great but really needs to take on less "hurr I'm oblivious" roles, and Tilda Swinton is awesome as a very fragile and frightened but also somewhat detached mother, but you already knew that. Very little violence is actually shown, and for the violent scenes we only see the aftermath, but I still found it very disturbing. I had trouble falling asleep after watching it.
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May 29, 2012 01:03
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President Anime 2008 posted:I take it Lake Mungo wasn't hugely well received here? I really enjoyed it. Maybe it's not really a 'horror'... I love David Lynch stuff, and this felt a lot like an homage to the darker sides of Twin Peaks. The sound and music was excellent and made me feel really uncomfortable throughout - a lot like Angelo Badalamenti's droning, ambient scores are for Lynch. No real jump scares, no gore, but a constant feeling of dread. Lake Mungo is my favorite horror film of the last 10 years, at least.
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:You're thinking of Dream House. Silent House is the one that is shot all in one take and blows. OH. Right. I saw Silent House in theaters and thought the concept was pretty cool but the execution was fairly lame. I don't really remember much of what happened in that movie. Was the whole thing in Elizabeth Olsen's head ? If not, then I have no idea. Must not have been all that interesting if I don't remember what happened at all.
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