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The GIG posted:FFXHD is being released as a standalone game yes, but what does that have to do with the Kingdom Hearts series? FFX is a singular game, it's not part of any series (except with FFX-2 but that wasn't a sequel in the sense of tying up story, itself was pretty much standalone). Kingdom Hearts games are much smaller than any FF, not to mention that it is a connected series that works with each other. Even if they all don't get lumped together at once, they will probably put them in with at least one other game from the series. Ahahahaha. O ye of little pessimism. The KH games will be sold separately because people will still buy them that way and Square-Enix will get more money that way. The only one with any odds of getting bundled with anything else is RE:CoM, since it was originally packaged with KH2:FM+.
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Mrs. Badcrumble posted:Ahahahaha. Considering that Square seems to love bundles, what with Final Fantasy Anthology back in the day, Final Fantasy 4 Complete, and almost every rerelease of the first two ever, and the fact that most HD remakes being released are bundles (Even Capcom's), there is a staggering amount of things that point towards a bundle pack if we get HD remakes rolling out. Oh ye of little sense. The GIG fucked around with this message at 10:21 on May 27, 2012 |
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miscellaneous14 posted:This is apparently in addition to the Vita port of it. Give me cloud saves and I will literally give you all my money. Make it happen Squeenix.
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May 27, 2012 14:40
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Everyone who skipped Recoded is doing themselves a disservice, because although it uses the same worlds as Kingdom Hearts 1, the gameplay is completely different on most of the worlds. It even makes Olympus Coliseum fun, which was like a tiny miracle.
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May 27, 2012 15:05
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The best part of Re:coded is Data-Roxas encouraging you to be a dick to everybody at Castle Oblivion. The battle system was okay, being similar to Birth by Sleep's, but the Matrix System was one huge pain in the rear, especially the fact that once placed, you can't take out panels anymore, only swap them for others.
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May 27, 2012 15:49
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You can basically ignore the plot of Re;coded since it literally doesn't matter until the ending, and the secret movie. But the game is fun as hell, has a slightly better version of the command deck system from BBS, and I really liked the level matrix stuff. Mostly because I think it's cool that you can dick around with your stats in order to affect EXP/item drops/etc.
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May 27, 2012 16:56
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The most amazing thing about re:coded is how they managed to reuse the already reused to hell and back 5 KH1 worlds three times in one game. It's like the cheapest game possible. First you go through the worlds. Then you go through them again, except this time it's full of cubes oooo. And then you go through not quite the worlds again, but this time you get to dick with the story!
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May 27, 2012 20:11
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Amppelix posted:The most amazing thing about re:coded is how they managed to reuse the already reused to hell and back 5 KH1 worlds three times in one game. It's like the cheapest game possible. First you go through the worlds. Then you go through them again, except this time it's full of cubes oooo. And then you go through not quite the worlds again, but this time you get to dick with the story! they're always full of Blox. I think you only go back through the worlds a second time for like a brief second, and it's usually one room and basically a puzzle. But the third time isn't anything at all like anything that has happened in any of the other games in the series and kinda owns. I'm totally gonna LP that game, eventually. Also, Iwata Asks: Kingdom Hearts 3D! (click) I'm reading it right now, pretty interesting. EDIT: They talk about, among other things, how Mario 64 changed gaming forever, how much of the overarching Kingdom Hearts plot Nomura wrote at what point, and how the dream eaters were influenced by the pets he had as a child. Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 01:48 on May 31, 2012 |
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May 30, 2012 03:59
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Apparently the guy who (correctly) leaked the new Castlevania games also mentioned a HD collection of the Kingdom Hearts games. http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/comments/kingdom-hearts-hd-collection-bound-for-wii-u quote:Kingdom Hearts lovers, rejoice: A collection of five of the games in the series could be seeing an HD re-release on Wii U, PS3, and the Vita. Dubbed “Kingdom Hearts: HD Remix,” this mega pack of games is set to include the original Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts II, Birth By Sleep, 358/2 Days, and Chain of Memories(presumably the Re version). It’ll supposedly include some retroactive continuity in the form of new side quests that help tie the games together. They would be stupid not to include the Final Mixes, considering a lot of the story stuff is canon (I'm looking at you, Unknown fight in KHFM) and also I don't believe they would port 358/2 Days because that would be way too much work.
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No Xbox? drat.  quote:It’ll supposedly include some retroactive continuity in the form of new side quests that help tie the games together. Oh god no. More retcons.
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MARTY TURKEY posted:Apparently the guy who (correctly) leaked the new Castlevania games also mentioned a HD collection of the Kingdom Hearts games. I want this to be real so badly. Now that I've got a Vita I won't need a PSP if this comes out.
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I really doubt they're going to include Days, if that rumor is even true. You can't HDify a DS game like that, and I can think of at least one cutscene that loses a whole lot of effect if you don't have two screens for it.Pesky Splinter posted:No Xbox? drat. The retcons are the best part of these games. I say bring them on, make this plot even more convoluted and dumb!
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Momomo posted:The retcons are the best part of these games. I say bring them on, make this plot even more convoluted and dumb! Xehanort is just a pawn for Scrooge McDuck. Sora time travels back into the past to become his own great grandfather (who is actually Ansem the wise). Riku is his brother. Kairi is actually just Mickey Mouse in drag to keep Sora and Riku loyal to him. Master Eraqus is actually Sora from the future, after he had a sex change, regretted it, had another change and went back in time to found the Land of Departure. And Kingdom Hearts is a literal plot hole in the middle of nowhere. Played to the tune of Simple and Clean. I think that's beat 'em for the time being. [e]: gently caress! Um...the Keyblade is actually Sora's mom in weapon form, and the X-blade is his dad and mom in weapon form. VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 09:26 on May 31, 2012 |
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May 31, 2012 03:14
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You didn't use the word "Keyblade" a single time in that, go back to the drawing board.
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"You might solve a mystery... or re-write history, KINGDOM HEARTS A-WOO-OO"
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Those better be the final mix versions otherwise they aren't worth a cent.
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May 31, 2012 03:43
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MARTY TURKEY posted:They would be stupid not to include the Final Mixes, considering a lot of the story stuff is canon (I'm looking at you, Unknown fight in KHFM) and also I don't believe they would port 358/2 Days because that would be way too much work. How much work would it be to convert the Final Mixes for a western release? From what I understand all their text is in Japanese but the voicework is still in English (and no new voicework is done for FMs either). Anything else that would need changing? E: And 358/2 didn't have any major touchscreen use so it's not like that couldn't be ported over. But who wants to play that game again?  (also when do you want to get cracking on that BBS LP) C-Euro fucked around with this message at 13:02 on May 31, 2012 |
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May 31, 2012 04:31
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MARTY TURKEY posted:also I don't believe they would port 358/2 Days because that would be way too much work. Not really. It's pretty much all stuff from the PS2 games, so it'd just be a matter of rebuilding the game with the higher quality assets.
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"Sidequests that tie in the games" might just be talking about the final mixes having a boss for the next game. I think it'd be cool if they actually put in the ability to call for nobody backup in days like they planned, but they'll probably just phone it in.
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Box of Bunnies posted:Not really. It's pretty much all stuff from the PS2 games, so it'd just be a matter of rebuilding the game with the higher quality assets. I can only think of 2 art assets exclusive to Days: Xion (who is pretty much just a texture swap of Kairi) and the final boss. For everything else they'd just re-use the models and textures from the first two games, which they would already be sprucing up for HD. I'm sure releasing Days on the PS3 would be no more work than releasing Chain of Memories on the PS2 was.
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They can even use the updated music from the BBS/Days/Coded soundtrack they put out.
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Momomo posted:I really doubt they're going to include Days, if that rumor is even true. You can't HDify a DS game like that, and I can think of at least one cutscene that loses a whole lot of effect if you don't have two screens for it. They could just do certain scenes with kind of a comic panel effect we see so often lately, I think it'd work out.
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C-Euro posted:How much work would it be to convert the Final Mixes for a western release? From what I understand all their text is in Japanese but the voicework is still in English (and no new voicework is done for FMs either). Anything else that would need changing? It's literally just the text, and 95% of the text was already in the regular version anyway, so it's not like they would have to do very much at all. The problem with porting 358/2 Days is that tons of cutscenes used both screens, and would lose that effect. The only way I could conceivably see this working would be with the WiiU tablet. And even then, I doubt they would put together an entire new game just for an HD re-release. Chain of Memories definitely needed the PS2 remake because of its relevance to the overall plot. Days does not. when I can afford recording equipment, which will be soon. EDIT: darealkooky posted:"Sidequests that tie in the games" might just be talking about the final mixes having a boss for the next game. It better loving be.
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I can see it as a transparent overlay for the non-dual screened games.
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MARTY TURKEY posted:It's literally just the text, and 95% of the text was already in the regular version anyway, so it's not like they would have to do very much at all. Can someone spoil for me why these scenes can not possibly be presented on a single screen? I really don't understand why there is no way to do these particular scenes in a comic panel style/other cinematography trickery, yet everyone is chiming in that it would be ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE.
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SnakesRevenge posted:Can someone spoil for me why these scenes can not possibly be presented on a single screen? I really don't understand why there is no way to do these particular scenes in a comic panel style/other cinematography trickery, yet everyone is chiming in that it would be ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. I think it's less "totally impossible" and more "pffft, square wouldn't put anything even vaguely resembling effort into this"
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SnakesRevenge posted:Can someone spoil for me why these scenes can not possibly be presented on a single screen? I really don't understand why there is no way to do these particular scenes in a comic panel style/other cinematography trickery, yet everyone is chiming in that it would be ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. So, uh, what does 'comic panel style' mean? Transparent overlay might work like one guy earlier suggested, but there's one of the dual-screen cutscenes that's almost identical top and bottom except for one element that is, of course, crucial.
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SnakesRevenge posted:Can someone spoil for me why these scenes can not possibly be presented on a single screen? I really don't understand why there is no way to do these particular scenes in a comic panel style/other cinematography trickery, yet everyone is chiming in that it would be ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. I was mostly thinking of this one (spoilers): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib16-CVaQYo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6U7etZWQuU I'm not quite sure when the bottom half begins, but I actually found it pretty sad. I can't see it working with just one screen. Momomo fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Jun 1, 2012 |
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Pureauthor posted:So, uh, what does 'comic panel style' mean? By that I mean just have a couple 'panels' side-by-side (or offset however looks good), that show what's going on in each screen. Seems simple enough to me.
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quote:Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance] is set to release in Europe on July 20, 2012. The European store "GAME" has revealed that they will be giving away a small bonus with pre-orders of the game-- a small Halloween Town-themed Sora dangling keychain.  I'm really bummed Europe isn't getting it.
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A couple cool things: a blog entry on Square's website about the voice talent in KH3D. Notably, that Hayden Panetierre is playing Xion, and not Alyson Stoner like in 358/2 Days. If you don't know, Hayden has always voiced Kairi (except in Days). I see why they did this, and I am glad, but I was just a little surprised. Also, on the Kingdom Hearts Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/KingdomHearts they have the E3 trailer. I AM EXCITED! EDIT: The E3 trailer shows a lot of previously shown footage, but now in English. There are a lot of things that weren't in that 10 minute trailer. Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jun 1, 2012 |
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quote:Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance] is set to release in Europe on July 20, 2012. The European store "GAME" has revealed that they will be giving away a small bonus with pre-orders of the game-- a small Halloween Town-themed Sora dangling keychain. Who the gently caress is going to preorder anything from Game ever again?
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Waldorf Sixpence posted:Who the gently caress is going to preorder anything from Game ever again? Having your preorder cancelled with no prior warning is definitely not a joke, and I have no intention of making light of it. And it can be a tough and emotional thing for gamers to go through, speaking from personal experience. And I know that it's often much harder on the customer than on the retail chain. However, I also know that it doesn't necessarily turn you into a sad, depressed sack of tears for the rest of your life. People can move past it, and heal. (had to do it)
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The GIG posted:And I'm pretty sure the series needs it, considering all the extra story they shoved into the Final Mixes that we didn't really get. I'd say it's more because Lighting is the modern FF character perfect for shilling, like Cloud was, considering FF13-2's marketing was almost entirely that. It's sort of amusing Cloud and Lightning are ending up pretty similar in more ways that we expected. That said, Cloud was the oldguard rep in both the original console games so I really wouldn't mind his exclusion completely if it meant Sephiroth never shows up in the game ever again. I can't think of a recent hero-villian duo with the same amount of fan backing though.Actually ,Considering Square shot down the only two fan theories that I thought merited them being put in ("Seph is Cloud's Nobody" & "Cloud is in the Herc world because CLoud did the same thing as Megara did to revive a lover")why exactly IS Seph running around being a dick and why is CLoud chasing him (since Aeris is clearly alive)? (Also am I the only person who'd be totally cool with a game entirely about the weird KH equivalents of the FF crew, just as a fun silly game?) keet fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jun 1, 2012 |
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penguinmambo posted:Actually ,Considering Square shot down the only two fan theories that I thought merited them being put in ("Seph is Cloud's Nobody" & "Cloud is in the Herc world because CLoud did the same thing as Megara did to revive a lover")why exactly IS Seph running around being a dick and why is CLoud chasing him (since Aeris is clearly alive)? Birth by Sleep includes Zack and ends with a not-so-subtle implication that he gets Sephiroth'd. I really don't think "Zack gets killed to set off Cloud's story arc" needs a spoiler because that is the dude's most defining trait.
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ImpAtom posted:Birth by Sleep includes Zack and ends with a not-so-subtle implication that he gets Sephiroth'd. and he was banging Aeris.
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MARTY TURKEY posted:and he was banging Aeris. Hey, now, there's no sex in Disney; only storks and adoptions.  And besides, she was totally letting Cid and Merlin double-team her.
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ALso despite Nomura jokes I'm noticing one more minor design gimmick. A shitload of characters in this, and characters Nomura has gone on record to liking, have really intense blue eyes.
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So who knows exactly how seriously to take this comment, but in this interview: http://youtu.be/vQgCe5o3Bhw Co-Director of Kingdom Hearts 3D says "Kingdom Hearts 3D really directly connects to Kingdom Hearts 3" Also he says they'd love to do some Pixar worlds so maybe that will happen at some point too  edit: I would like a KH3 level based on Wreck-it Ralph. I can't even imagine how they would do it but I want it. Macaluso fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Jun 8, 2012 |
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