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I never found the battles in this game hard, minus the optional superbosses, of course. However, there was a point later on where I just got stuck. I had to haul off and buy the guide because I just could not figure out where to go next. In retrospect, it was pretty obvious and it was probably my own drat fault for not picking up on the hints. I must have stopped playing late at night and plum forgot where I was supposed to go by the time I picked it up again in the morning.
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This update is amazing, Elentor. I would legitimately pay  for a full guide in that style, and I'm sure a lot of other people would too.
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Jun 1, 2012 16:20
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That was awesome. You totally caught the spirit of those magazines! The only worry I had was that the lack of screenshots would not make things clear to the readers who have not played the game but then in the end you took care of that with extra screenies from the date. 
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Jun 1, 2012 16:21
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That was beautiful and made me nostalgic for my old subscription to Swedish Super Play magazine. The days before the internet could provide you with everything and you actually played the stuff on the included demo disc regardless of whether it was something that interested you or not. Good times.
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Jun 1, 2012 16:26
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Fuckin sweet. Looks exactly like the FF7 guide from Brady Games; that guide had so many inaccuracies.
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Leavemywife posted:At first, I honestly thought that was from an old, lovely magazine. Well-done, Elentor. Ditto. It's so spot-on.
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Jun 1, 2012 16:33
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Great LP. Awesome update. The magazine part reminded me of the FFIX magazine guide I had, except more accurate.
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second-hand smegma posted:Fuckin sweet. Looks exactly like the FF7 guide from Brady Games; that guide had so many inaccuracies. I tried to find mine earlier but it wasn't where it's supposed to be. 
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Jun 1, 2012 16:39
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That really reminds me of my FF7 guide. I'd say you did a great job on recreating the look/feel of old game guides. Does Tifa react any different to Cait Sith at the end of the date, or is the only change something like Marlene saying "Tifa?" rather than "It's the Flower Lady!"?
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TurnipFritter posted:They really, truly do. It was certainly nice for the game to give the player something awesome to look at during all the That reveal would probably be more impactful if it wasn't a character who just forced his way into the party out of nowhere for no reason at all. "I'm a spy and handed over the important thing we need. Can't I keep traveling with you?" NO!!!! In fact, since you told me that the cat is just a puppet, I think I'll just kill you and not feel any bit of guilt! (I really hope that that thing is out of the party for good.) Are you going to start the next update by going into the temple and showing the scenes that you just summarized in the magazine bit?
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Jun 1, 2012 16:44
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PROTIP: To defeat Sephiroth, shoot at him until he dies.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:"I'm a spy and handed over the important thing we need. Can't I keep traveling with you?" He's not, I'm afraid. He never left; he simply hangs the threat of violence on Marlene and blackmails himself into staying. I don't really mind it so much now (I was livid as a teenager, though) because this was another thing I had never seen before, and it's an interesting idea that there is someone in your party who is not on your side and there's nothing you can do abourt it. Still, it would have been at least more palatable if there had been another reason Cait Sith had to stay. Such as, for example: when Cloud brings up the "We can't trust you any more" thing, Cait Sith says, "Well, right back at you!" and lists the party's numerous acts of terrorism, murder, and other illegal activities already discussed in the thread, and makes the point that the only real difference between the Turks and the main characters is that the party isn't paid as well. That would have at least been an explanation of why he did this. But anyway, it's years ago today. And that was great stuff, Elentor! I swear, I thought that was an old strategy magazine until I read it. Top notch work!
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Been lurking this entire time, but had to post now to say that yeah, that was amazing. Even after seeing the mention of you at the bottom of the first page, I half thought the rest was just stripped from a magazine and photoshopped or something. Really excellent work on recapturing the feel of those
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Fantastic job with the "magazine". It really did capture the feel of those guides. Also... This needs to have an FF8 SeeD payment pop-up photoshopped onto it.
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resurgam40 posted:He's not, I'm afraid. He never left; he simply hangs the threat of violence on Marlene and blackmails himself into staying. I don't really mind it so much now (I was livid as a teenager, though) because this was another thing I had never seen before, and it's an interesting idea that there is someone in your party who is not on your side and there's nothing you can do abourt it. Still, it would have been at least more palatable if there had been another reason Cait Sith had to stay. Such as, for example: when Cloud brings up the "We can't trust you any more" thing, Cait Sith says, "Well, right back at you!" and lists the party's numerous acts of terrorism, murder, and other illegal activities already discussed in the thread, and makes the point that the only real difference between the Turks and the main characters is that the party isn't paid as well. That would have at least been an explanation of why he did this. But anyway, it's years ago today. Watching the LP, in my mind kidnapping Marlene and threatening to hurt her makes Cait Sith and by extension Reeves an un-redeemable fuckwad and I don't get why Barret doesn't shoot Reeves in the face the first chance he gets (once Marlene is safe, of course).
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I was scrolling up and down trying to figure out where Elentor ended and the scanned-in strategy guide began. One thing I did question though, regarding the Tifa date. I was under the impression that was less of a confession of feelings and more...The conflicting issues she was afraid to bring up earlier in Kalm. (Sorry if that's too vague or too obvious. I'm trying really hard not to spoil anything)
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Yuffie's date is the best date though. It's a shame you have to go through such BS to unlock it without deliberately messing up the recruitment stage.
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Jun 1, 2012 18:24
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I'm so excited! We're about to get the sweetest weapon in the whole game.
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Joining the chorus of "that was really great!" Reading your "strategy guide" felt like visiting an old friend. Are you planning to show off some of the other outcomes of the play during the dates?
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second-hand smegma posted:People constantly say the same thing about FF8; but these games usually don't get broken on the first playthrough, so claiming that they're easy to break 'with a little knowledge' is either moot or daft or both. Learning how to break it is readily apparently, although obviously there's layers to it.
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I really appreciate how much effort that must have taken.
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See this? This is the point where I stopped playing FF7 when I was a kid. That first loving screen. I kept getting lost and couldn't make it to the boulders. When I replayed the game literally ten years later, I had a friend with a strategy guide reading off directions. Elentor, you're doing a fantastic job with this LP. These past couple of days I have been repeatedly checking the thread for new updates, and this has been one hell of a payoff. I thought that the images were from a real magazine too until it started referencing LP. 
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Geostomp posted:No, but the idea that your friends and family will go back to starving if you don't do this does serve as a nice motivation to ignore that little voice in the back of your head telling you that what you're doing isn't right. This issue is also part of the back story to several halfdozen later characters (and in my headcanon, part of the intentional designs of the Turks as "just following orders") so I'd say it's intentional. re: Date, it still impresses me that Square, even its in current form, have always quite classy and tactfully vague in addressing the romantic overtones of that series (KH repeated that, but its younger kids and not really a plot-point). As a kid I always thought there was something odd to how Aeris and Tifa act in scenes like that, and thru a second playthrough you catch the double meaning in what a lot of it actually is, which makes it way more complicated. It's kind of like how Cait Sith is kind of a dick in how he does things, till you realize thats sort of the environment ShinRa cultivates. Frankly you can even make a case that early on, every character in the *party* is pretty duplicitious, at least in the sense they're holding back on hypocritical things they do/did/think, and each character's arc finishes up with them basically realizing it. Anyway, I'd argue most jrpgs and especially Square games, all of them become rather easy if you learn how to "break" them, which really just means when (and how quickly) you learn how the battle system works and how to exploit it. If the mechanics are obtuse, it's difficult. keet fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jun 1, 2012 |
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Did you just Hideo Kojima your own let's play? loving brilliant!
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Wow, Elentor. That was incredible. I actually thought that was legit from that mini-guide in the back of the instruction manual. Bravo sir, bravo. I can't imagine how much effort that must have taken. Thank you for providing us with a year of free entertainment. 
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Alkarl posted:Wow, Elentor. That was incredible. I actually thought that was legit from that mini-guide in the back of the instruction manual. Bravo sir, bravo. I can't imagine how much effort that must have taken. Thank you for providing us with a year of free entertainment. Guess what my FF7 manual came with!  It's just the first reactor mission so it tells you nothing very useful.
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That magazine section really brought me back to the good old pre-mass internet days of the mid-late 90's and for a while I though they were scans of real magazines. Great job Elentor and keep it for for the next year of this LP.
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I don't know how the hell so many of you thought they were scans of a "real magazine" when the first three words at the top of the first image are "Elentor's Let's Play" and the bottom of page 1 says "Something Awful Magazine." Now, nailing the style of an old school guide? Yeah, definitely 
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Nailing the style 100%. That was brilliant.
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Jumping on the praise train, cause there ain't no gettin' offa it.
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Psion posted:I don't know how the hell so many of you thought they were scans of a "real magazine" when the first three words at the top of the first image are "Elentor's Let's Play" and the bottom of page 1 says "Something Awful Magazine." My favorite touch was the address you send your questions to. But at first glance, it did look like a particularly poorly laid out (read: any) gaming magazine. You really blew that out of the water, Elentor.
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Broken Box posted:Jumping on the praise train, cause there ain't no gettin' offa it. Next stop: Elentor-continues-to-be-awesome Central. 
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Yeah, I'm just repeating everyone else here, but that was really very neat. It's pretty much a perfect imitation of old JRPG strategy guides. Great work and keep it up!
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Everything has been said already, but holy crap the whole second half of that update was amazing.
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The corny jokes were just perfect. I had a big goofy grin on my face the whole time I was reading.
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That was the best update so far. And what a great way to celebreat the first birthday of the thread! Thanks for the great LP, and happy birthday to the LP!
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Mom had me throw out my gaming magazines and that somehow included SMB3, FF3, and Earthbound.  The FFV-VI combo guide was poo poo and not even with good artwork.
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You crazy bastard. Also well done on the style of the magazines. GOD brady guides were such a lovely rear end guide. Hell I still have my FF8 PC Guide one. Ya know, the thick little book. Probably the worst offender was DQ8. Holy hell it was a bad guide. I know bonus stuff is bonus stuff, but at least cover the goddamn bonus dungeons instead of saying HARD ENEMIES, be HIGH level. gently caress you Brady Guide.
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