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This was a mediocre episode. Bill Bradley should have spoken up more and the CNBC women should have spoken less. Next week Paul Krugman and Arthur Laffer are on the show. I hope they're both on the panel and Krugman strangles the life out of him. Also the return of Kevin Nealon.
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Pretty please Bill, make much larger bets with that CNBC lady that you can win such that she can no longer afford the air or cab fare to return on the program again----ugh! As usual, being constantly demonstrated wrong/ignorant is one things, but the smug factor might as well be smog floating around the studio. A real twist of irony next week would be Krugman bringing a portable bathtub with him and at least drown the drat chart in effigy. I still maintain a Scahill/Sharlet/Taibbi panel would be ever so delightful, even if it felt like Scahill didn't get to speak up as much as usual even if he was point man on shutting down CNBC.
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May 19, 2012 13:36
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Now I'm thinking that the producers purposely dumb down the panel so that it's more entertaining. You've got loving Dan Rather and Bill Bradley, why not put them both on the panel? Why so unserious? The panel "regulars" are mostly those that are dumb enough to return and make themselves look silly while promoting some book. Real Time can really elevate itself, but I think they're comfortable sticking to where they are for now. Also, Maher probably isn't smart enough to deal with the Rathers and the like in real debates and discussions, but he doesn't have to be. Just throw out the topics, sit back, and interject occasionally. When Rather talked about innovation during Overtime, it's pretty much Neil Degrasse Tyson has been preaching to everyone, including that committee overseeing NASA funding. Get Tyson back to promote his book and elevate the level of discourse. Getting really tired of seeing the token woman/conservative/woman+conservative.
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May 19, 2012 17:53
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I didn't mind the episode too much. Two things mentioned were worth longer discussion. The continuing rising death toll in Mexico that should be on the news everyday (until drugs are decriminalized). And to a lesser extent the ouster of Dick Lugar (senator from Indiana). While he's mostly a conservative it goes to show you that if you're critical of Iraq/Bush or try to work with the president at all you could be in a lot of trouble. I saw Lugar give a speech back a few years ago (in front of a predominantly military audience) and he was very critical on Iraq so it's not surprising he lost the primary this time around. Former Human posted:Also the return of Kevin Nealon. The last time he was on was monumental. That 20-25 minutes was worth an Emmy (or whatever awards are available for a guest appearance).
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May 19, 2012 23:13
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That woman is the loving worst!
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May 20, 2012 01:11
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Zogo posted:The last time he was on was monumental. That 20-25 minutes was worth an Emmy (or whatever awards are available for a guest appearance). Amen. Probably the hardest I ever laughed at this show ever was his summer(?) appearance last year when he suddenly threw to commercial mid-panel.
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May 20, 2012 01:51
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Zogo posted:
Any idea when it was? I'd like to look it up on HBO go
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May 20, 2012 05:10
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blue squares posted:Any idea when it was? I'd like to look it up on HBO go Yea, episode 217 (6/17/11). Also, Ray Kurzweil was on that show as the interview guest. I don't think HBO GO has it.
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May 20, 2012 06:21
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I'm guessing by the lack of discussion it wasn't a great episode this week?
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May 26, 2012 23:39
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Abu Dave posted:I'm guessing by the lack of discussion it wasn't a great episode this week? Both economists were reasonable (for a change) and didn't politicize the debate immediately or say anything really outlandish or controversial. They both acknowledged that this country is in a depression. The opening guest interview was trying to be serious but Maher was throwing out a lot of jokes.
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May 26, 2012 23:57
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Talk shows of all sorts generally promote more discussion when they are terrible and make you angry, thus conservative radio. This was an entertaining show with reasonable guests who had a sense of a humor, which is when Maher is at its best. I did think Krugman wiped the floor with Laffer though, just because he could get his points across without getting jargony and Laffer sounded like he was bullshitting when he couldn't do the same.
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May 27, 2012 00:12
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Nealon killed it like usual. Bill was really inconsiderate with the first guest, someone who was there for a pretty serious topic. This is someone Bill follows too, on Twitter or something, so maybe he thought he could be all chummy with him. But it seemed frustrating to be in the guest's position.
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May 28, 2012 00:42
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Dudebro posted:Nealon killed it like usual. Bill was really inconsiderate with the first guest, someone who was there for a pretty serious topic. This is someone Bill follows too, on Twitter or something, so maybe he thought he could be all chummy with him. But it seemed frustrating to be in the guest's position. Totally agree. That guy looked really annoyed with Bill, and he never was able to finish the topic of conversation, Bill just moved onto something new once he made a joke. He also seemed to be making fun of that gift right in front of the guy as well
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May 28, 2012 01:33
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I liked seeing Krugman on the show, but with two economists on the panel I was really surprised that they didn't talk about the Eurozone and Greece's inevitable departure from it.
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May 28, 2012 18:54
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fart blood posted:I liked seeing Krugman on the show, but with two economists on the panel I was really surprised that they didn't talk about the Eurozone and Greece's inevitable departure from it. The got into it a little during Overtime, but I agree, I was hoping thereŽd been more discussion of Europe, and Greece in particular.
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May 28, 2012 19:14
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"What does occupying a park accomplish other than forcing anonymous gay sex back into the bathouses?" *cut to John Waters*
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Jun 9, 2012 05:57
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Really good episode this week, not super funny but very informative. Why the gently caress is HBOs website such a steaming pile of poo poo? Overtime just won't load for me at all, in any browser. When are people going to realize that these all flash sites are terrible and abandon them? For a company that produces such great content HBO sure seems to be about ten years behind the curve in the online world.
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Jun 10, 2012 05:02
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Maher was spot on with Occupy Wallstreet. What a sad case.
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Jun 10, 2012 06:37
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punk rebel ecks posted:Maher was spot on with Occupy Wallstreet. What a sad case.
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Jun 10, 2012 08:55
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FlamingLiberal posted:I would also add that he ignores how hard police have been cracking down on Occupy, making it difficult for them to do a whole lot. Wasn't that his point though? That the people involved in OWS should be doing things that police don't have to crack down on (ie camping out in parks) and instead be more involved in the political process?
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Jun 10, 2012 09:02
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porkfriedrice posted:Wasn't that his point though? That the people involved in OWS should be doing things that police don't have to crack down on (ie camping out in parks) and instead be more involved in the political process? Considering he was railing on how the political process is set up earlier in the show (money, corporations out of state, senate seating etc...), there aren't that many other options that OWS can realistically do.
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Jun 10, 2012 12:28
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Maher also missed the bit where massive astroturfing essentially co-opted the "original" tea party, IIRC, which then has gone on to "co-opt" the GOP---it is almost like some sort of odd money laundering/recycle really that dooms us all. There's no "Soros" figure backing OWS versus the Koch bros and the like so it isn't much of a contest, nor do they really have a major news network going to bat for them to a substantial degree. Occupy has an inherently harder thing to do even discounting all of that---much harder to get poison out of a well than to poison it in the first place. Still, a nice episode lacking any idiot parade unlike oh so many this season.
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Jun 10, 2012 16:34
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Bit of an unappealing episode this week. Nothing too major. Just...there.
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Jun 17, 2012 23:00
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fart blood posted:Bit of an unappealing episode this week. Nothing too major. Just...there. The last two weeks haven't had anything substantial for me really. I suppose the Obama hologram was okay. Wasn't as funny as that Karab Amabo they did a while ago though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JJEdusXIEA
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Jun 17, 2012 23:11
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On the flip(?) side though, the next ep features the return of Gillespie... I'd probably prefer more subdued ones to that, but maybe this time somebody will lose it on his sorry self.
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Jun 17, 2012 23:17
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ExiledTinkerer posted:On the flip(?) side though, the next ep features the return of Gillespie... I don't mind Gillespie although it's easy to see why most hate him. Libertarianistic, aggressively and intellectually arrogant and extremely contrarian. Also, leather jacket.
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Jun 18, 2012 00:25
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I thought this was a better-than-average episode. First guest, good. Panel, not horrible and actually good, I'd say. Alan Thicke was hillarious. I liked how they talked about commencement speeches and this new generation. Also, that dude who plays Obama, Reggie (?), did a great dance in the credits.
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Jun 18, 2012 01:38
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FlamingLiberal posted:Second is that there doesn't seem to be a major emphasis in the group towards co-opting the Democratic Party like the Tea Party did to the GOP. Occupy had no interest in bullying the existing political system and rejected it as being useless, corrupt. The Tea Party on the hand wanted to bully and do everything in their power to get their candidates in office. So pretty much ended OWS up being another fringe populist history footnote movement without enough muscle/clout to influence candidates or actual elections.
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Jun 18, 2012 03:31
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ExiledTinkerer posted:On the flip(?) side though, the next ep features the return of Gillespie... I'd be interested in Mark Ruffalo being on the panel. Looking forward to that.
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Jun 18, 2012 19:43
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I dunno if anyone else but me subscribes to the Real Time podcast but they always upload "2 minute Maher" which is him trying out the week's monologue the day before and sometimes they're compete total dogshit. The one from last weeks might be my favorite ever because of how hard he bombed. I love Bill but god drat it is funny hearing someone like him who doesn't give a gently caress bomb. I don't think he kept any of it for the actual show.
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Jun 20, 2012 14:00
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I have no idea what Kirk Douglas is saying.
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Jun 23, 2012 06:16
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Former Human posted:I have no idea what Kirk Douglas is saying. That was really painful.
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Jun 23, 2012 06:18
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Jun 23, 2012 06:25
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Gillespie was incredibly annoying. If the market asks for labels they will get labels on their food... Right after a point about how 9 out of 10 people want it. I don't care about genetically modified food but Jesus Libertarians are annoying. Rachel trying to say she reports the news and doesn't offer opinion on it was pretty entertaining, even if they other guy was a giant rear end in a top hat. Nairbo fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Jun 23, 2012 |
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Jun 23, 2012 06:48
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Weak episode. Kirk Douglas was unintelligible. Mort Zuckerman barely said three words. Rachel was being self-conscious and sketchy. Gillespie couldn't shut up. Since when did libertarian ideology throw out the need for open information and civil rights? At some point it devolved into an even more corporatist entity than the Republicans. Yeah we don't need environmental regulations or food labels, and fracking is safe, right? Big deal, so you can light your tap water on fire, it's still better than solar power!!! Also Rachel dodging direct questions like that was unlike her. She should have said Romneycare/Obamacare didn't go far enough and we should have single payer. There, conversation over. That was a weird moment.
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Jun 23, 2012 07:20
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Former Human posted:I have no idea what Kirk Douglas is saying. Yeah I'm kind of shocked he was on in the state he was in. You can't understand a goddamn thing he says.
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Jun 23, 2012 08:35
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Former Human posted:Also Rachel dodging direct questions like that was unlike her.
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Jun 23, 2012 09:02
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Hogburto posted:She was being pestered the question of what republicans she likes more than democrats with the pretense that either way the answer would prove that she only picks sides on things based on the party, not the issues (which it obviously would not). He just wanted her to play into justifying his false equivalency that democrats are as bad and partisan as republicans. Gillespie is such an rear end. That was the first incident, which Bill answered quite well in her defense, but later Gillespie asked what Rachel thought of Romneycare and her answer was literally "dude you don't know me" and "leave me alone." That was pretty silly.
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Jun 23, 2012 09:10
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Wouldn't the ideal answer be something like "actually Romneycare isn't so bad, and it is a lot like Obama's plan and Romney distances himself from his own plan now because of this so doesn't that show you how badly he panders to whoever can help him currently?" I haven't seen it yet because it's not on HBOGO but am I assuming the context of the exchange correctly? Did she really not pounce on this softball argument?
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