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quote:And before anyone brings this up again, YES I KNOW THAT THE PLURAL OF PREY IS PREY. poo poo at english, poo poo at damage control. Good chapter though.
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"A man who has lost everything will turn to the devil." drat.
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How did he get the thumb drive? Is that his sole ability, stealing small objects from across the room? I wonder how long it usually takes for a regular to become a ranker, and at what point they get to live forever. Regulars are so much weaker that they must all be planning on training for decades as they climb.
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cooldude2.0 posted:I wonder how long it usually takes for a regular to become a ranker, and at what point they get to live forever. Regulars are so much weaker that they must all be planning on training for decades as they climb. I think as you get more powerful (higher in the tower?) the longer your lifespan anyway. So even making it up to the 20th floor probably gives you a significant boost to your lifespan. It's probably an effect of all that shinsoo.
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Jun 17, 2012 16:28
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cooldude2.0 posted:How did he get the thumb drive? Is that his sole ability, stealing small objects from across the room? I think he just ran up and grabbed it. If you were fighting somebody else to the death, wouldn't you be caught off-guard if somebody appeared out of nowhere and threw a grenade at you?
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cooldude2.0 posted:How did he get the thumb drive? Is that his sole ability, stealing small objects from across the room? he used a reel from his pocket. The impressive thing is he caught it on the very top of the remote while it the inside of a pepper cloud and being held by a ranker. IF anything this man has EPIC aim.
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Jun 18, 2012 02:47
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Slime posted:I think as you get more powerful (higher in the tower?) the longer your lifespan anyway. So even making it up to the 20th floor probably gives you a significant boost to your lifespan. Which is part of what makes Baam/Viole such a monster. Shinsoo is part power for Rankers and part a challange since it starts effecting movement in higher densities. Shinsoo is less then Air to him and any Shinsoo technique someone may have spent years working on he learns with a glance.
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Jun 18, 2012 02:56
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So how important is the exposition in the first few chapters? Im trying to start this manhwa since it looks interesting, but even batoto's images are hella blurry and I can't make out any text(the first chapter of the second floor). Am I hosed? Or is it just my phone sucking?
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Jun 18, 2012 09:12
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You're trying to read it on a phone which is almost certainly the problem
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Jun 18, 2012 09:22
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Scott Bakula posted:You're trying to read it on a phone which is almost certainly the problem Thank goodness you're right. I'll see you guys again in a few days when I've caught up 
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Jun 18, 2012 18:26
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Just finished the latest chapter, thought more were out than that... Vol 2 shat on my favorite part of the manwha which was our irregular's derpyness. I personally hate brooding characters because they add nothing to a series besides frustration and usually really dumb looks. I hope Prince Zahad punches him in the face and we can get back to monster teamwork soon.
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Nasgate posted:Just finished the latest chapter, thought more were out than that... New Baam is radically different from old Baam but I don't know if I'd describe him in the way that you have. The whole no-eyes thing is getting overplayed a bit, but I don't feel like he brings 'brooding' and 'frustration' to the table. I get a lot of indifference from him, toward the regulars he's with and probably more importantly, to the 'test' itself. The whole idea of this FUG business he's up to is making a mockery of the testing procedure, which is effectively spitting in Zahard's face. I don't know why he's redirecting his betrayal angst toward Zahard, but it definitely seems like something that'll come up in future chapters - I can't imagine we'll get through this part without a flashback at least mentioning his FUG induction. Most importantly, though, it's been hinted this whole time that the old Baam is still hiding under his bangs. I won't go into raw discussion here, but feel free to get a peek at the next chapter and make up your mind on the situation here: http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=183559&no=101&weekday=mon As a final note you should hunt down some of the older blog posts, SIU shares quite a bit of his thought process on the characters and where he's going with the series. You can find those strewn about the Batoto forums.
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Sarcophallus posted:I don't know why he's redirecting his betrayal angst toward Zahard, but it definitely seems like something that'll come up in future chapters - I can't imagine we'll get through this part without a flashback at least mentioning his FUG induction. Maybe he even believes that if he can destroy the system Rachel will come back to him. Sindai fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Jun 19, 2012 |
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Jun 19, 2012 05:39
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Sarcophallus posted:I don't know why he's redirecting his betrayal angst toward Zahard, but it definitely seems like something that'll come up in future chapters - I can't imagine we'll get through this part without a flashback at least mentioning his FUG induction. It definitely should come up in future chapters, but I think he may just be him realizing that his betrayal was less a personal thing and more the natural result of people wanting to climb the tower. Cuz that crap is happening to everyone on these floors. I think he probably just realizes that since all irregulars are guaranteed to be the strongest in the tower, he's in a better position than anyone else in existence to put an end to all the bullshit after he reaches the top. bofa salesman fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Jun 19, 2012 |
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Frome posted:It definitely should come up in future chapters, but I think he may just be him realizing that his betrayal was less a personal thing and more the natural result of people wanting to climb the tower. Cuz that crap is happening to everyone on these floors. I think he probably just realizes that since all irregulars are guaranteed to be the strongest in the tower, he's in a better position than anyone else in existence to put an end to all the bullshit after he reaches the top. This is more or less what I had in mind. I don't think he came to the conclusion by himself, though - if only because of his last lines in the part 1 epilogue. It was pretty obvious that he was directing his anger at her, so I figure the guide and FUG basically coached him into hating Zahard's system. That fits in with the change from his epilogue line to his response to Chicken Love, when questioned about his goal. The way I see it at the moment is that Rachel was a sort of naive mother figure to him, and Hwa Ryun came in to inject the 'reality' of the tower. After all, Rachel thought the Tower was a magical tower where wonderful 'Fae' would guide children to the top. That was clearly not the case, even from the first two chapters. While Rachel realized it immediately when she came to the Tower, (Where she felt Headon basically told her to die), Baam didn't see any of it as unusual until after Rachel's betrayal, which did away with the naive innocence that she was responsible for in the first place.
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Jun 19, 2012 06:48
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Rachel's betrayal was all designed to hide Baam from Zahard from what I remember though. They needed to have him appear dead so that the rulers wouldn't be aware of another irregular climbing the tower. I would have thought Baam would have been told of this once he'd been recovered after the betrayal took place
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Scott Bakula posted:Rachel's betrayal was all designed to hide Baam from Zahard from what I remember though. They needed to have him appear dead so that the rulers wouldn't be aware of another irregular climbing the tower. I would have thought Baam would have been told of this once he'd been recovered after the betrayal took place I'm hesitant to agree in the sense that I don't think Rachel was "in" on the plan at all, I'm under the impression she truly thought she'd killed him. I don't disagree that there's some sort of conspiratory plan to hide Baam between Yu Hansung and Headon. Best as I can tell Baam wasn't told, because of these two frames. Or maybe Baam just wants to know if she was ignorant of the plan or in on it.
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Sarcophallus posted:New Baam is radically different from old Baam but I don't know if I'd describe him in the way that you have. The whole no-eyes thing is getting overplayed a bit, but I don't feel like he brings 'brooding' and 'frustration' to the table. I get a lot of indifference from him, toward the regulars he's with and probably more importantly, to the 'test' itself. The whole idea of this FUG business he's up to is making a mockery of the testing procedure, which is effectively spitting in Zahard's face. I thought the whole "Ill just do the guardian test" was a lot better way of saying screw the system. Not only does it go over Zahad law bs, it also raises way more people to higher levels, usually with positive feelings towards Baam, thus creating an army of cool people instead of going all Sasuke on us and just making the situation worse. For me the tone and style switch felt like changing from One Piece(fun, well thought out, pretty) to Bleach(bland/blank). I guess it seems to be reverting a bit though, which is good. The only loner character I've seen done well is Guts, and that's because he doesn't push away help like an idiot.
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There was never any indication that Rachel did not betray Baam. Otherwise, why would she have actually stabbed him? No one was observing them in the bubble. Baam doesn't have any special resistance to being stabbed, drowning or water pressure. It isn't clear how he survived, but it certainly wasn't due to anything Rachel did. Rachel accepted the deal to kill Baam. She stabbed Baam. She used Baam's death as a way to get carried to the top of the tower. So, obviously this was all a clever ruse by someone who had never demonstrated any particular resourcefulness.
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Serious Frolicking posted:There was never any indication that Rachel did not betray Baam. Otherwise, why would she have actually stabbed him? No one was observing them in the bubble. Baam doesn't have any special resistance to being stabbed, drowning or water pressure. It isn't clear how he survived, but it certainly wasn't due to anything Rachel did. It's totally part of the deal she made with Headon, he probably told her to betray Baam because he wants Zahard out of there and he knows Baam is a god damned monster. I mean, the other irregular that is super powerful with shinsoo can supposedly create life. With Baam's mind shattered by the betrayal, he can be easily influenced.
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Early scan for 'Preys' 2: http://imgur.com/a/ZEk0e Magnifying glass icon in the top right maximizes, 7 pages total. This weeks' chapter is really good.
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Sarcophallus posted:Early scan for 'Preys' 2: "lobdevil"
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oh i loving love the person who's writing/drawing this. he knows how to deliver what you want to see.  Spellcheck fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Jun 20, 2012 |
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Jun 20, 2012 02:13
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Hot drat. This chapter has got some awesome action going on.
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Yesss!!! this is want I want, and I want more!! Also, I knew that sissy henchman couldn't have beaten Haku.
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Jun 20, 2012 03:17
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This series has just surpassed HxH as my favorite series, I think.
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Jun 20, 2012 06:35
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Sarcophallus posted:Early scan for 'Preys' 2:  Oh god yes
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What a good chapter. From the way Viole(t) dealt with the worm guy thing controlling Yeon, he knew exactly what do to, which implies to me that he knows those two.
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Jun 20, 2012 11:54
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Hietala posted:
I will join you, this series always delivers.
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Edge Zero posted:This series has just surpassed HxH as my favorite series, I think. I think it's coming close to the mark but I haven't ye found a really good villain in ToG akin to either Hisoka or Kuroro. There was Lo Po Bia Ren but he got summarily smashed into the ground.
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Furious Lobster posted:I think it's coming close to the mark but I haven't ye found a really good villain in ToG akin to either Hisoka or Kuroro. There was Lo Po Bia Ren but he got summarily smashed into the ground. One of his bodies at least, he could still show up again.
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Hietala posted:One of his bodies at least, he could still show up again. He's pretty close to being a Hisoka clone anyway, though.
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Furious Lobster posted:I think it's coming close to the mark but I haven't ye found a really good villain in ToG akin to either Hisoka or Kuroro. There was Lo Po Bia Ren but he got summarily smashed into the ground. Id' argue that Rachel fills that role and while not physically intimidating is a masterful manipulator. Frankly I'm looking forward to Baam smashing people Rachel throws in front of him for little while.
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I don't think Rachel was a master manipulator. I think she was basically a normal person who ended up in a pivotal role by accident. She got special treatment including her hand-picked super team only because the administrators wanted to use her as a weapon against an irregular. Rachel was fond of Baam, but not to the degree Baam was obsessed with her. Once her legs got messed up, her only hope of climbing the tower was to take the deal to kill Baam. Ultimately, she valued her dream more than she did Baam. Also, she was too afraid to accept Baam's offer to accompany him up the tower because of how many enemies he had just by existing.
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There wasn't a villain for part 1 because it wasn't about triumphing over a person, it was about Baam climbing the tower. Wangnan doesn't have an established Big Bad yet because he has that same goal. Viole might, but he's deliberately being left as a cipher. If Zahard personally came down to kill his puppy, we're not going to know for a while yet.Serious Frolicking posted:I don't think Rachel was a master manipulator. I think she was basically a normal person who ended up in a pivotal role by accident. She got special treatment including her hand-picked super team only because the administrators wanted to use her as a weapon against an irregular. A few corrections: One, Rachel's legs work perfectly fine. She was faking the injury to garner sympathy. It also helped her take Baam off-guard; you'll see that she's standing when she shoves him off. It's foreshadowed at a few points before that, too. Two, Baam is not being treated as an enemy. Considering events with Headon and the Guide he was given immediately after Rachel's betrayal, this was just a way to get him where they wanted him going. That's up, not out. If they wanted him dead, Hwa Ryun would have killed him when he was helpless and injured and alone. Three, she didn't do it because she was afraid. She was told that doing that to Baam was the price of her climbing the Tower, and she decided to pay it. That's it.
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Slime posted:What a good chapter. From the way Viole(t) dealt with the worm guy thing controlling Yeon, he knew exactly what do to, which implies to me that he knows those two. It seems like the control wasn't total, as he managed to piss her off to get her to try and yell at him. This chapter has some solid images all around, but I think it's made me an even bigger fan of Teddy. The guy has a pretty fierce expression here, not to mention the reveal of him as the true devil-arm. Also to nitpick, the scanlator comments added in are annoying. "Kinky" etc. I appreciate the work they put in but toning down the commentary within the strip itself would be nice.
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I'm hoping that I'm not only one who currently thinking that Teddy is the REAL man with the devil right arm that beat Hatsu. I'm Getting that kinda feeling from the translation
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