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Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010

FIRST TIME posted:

Gonna go check this out later today.
http://salem.craigslist.org/ctd/3039887662.html

Anyone want to place bets on what's terribly wrong with it?



Why so many tabs, man?

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Xarthor
Nov 11, 2003

Need Ink or Toner for
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Check out my
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Lipstick Apathy
Found an unmolested CRX for $850, says the clutch is out, thinking it might be an interesting little project car...



Oh it has some cosmetic damage that any 25 year old car would have, okay, that's manageable let's just look at the next picture and see what we're working wi--



:psyduck:

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

FIRST TIME posted:

Gonna go check this out later today.
http://salem.craigslist.org/ctd/3039887662.html

Anyone want to place bets on what's terribly wrong with it?



They were miserable cars with a desirable badge, durable only because of their unreliability, compounded by awful maintenance (anything not dealer). They'll do 500K miles, but its a crapshoot whether it will cost you $10K or $50K to do so.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


DJ Commie posted:

They were miserable cars with a desirable badge, durable only because of their unreliability, compounded by awful maintenance (anything not dealer). They'll do 500K miles, but its a crapshoot whether it will cost you $10K or $50K to do so.

Are we talking about the same W124 line of cars here?

The one that is widely acknowledged to be one of the absolute best cars Mercedes-Benz has ever made, only surpassed by the W201?

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

KozmoNaut posted:

Are we talking about the same W124 line of cars here?

The one that is widely acknowledged to be one of the absolute best cars Mercedes-Benz has ever made, only surpassed by the W201?

I mean I don't think he's wrong, really, he's just pointing out that yes, they will do that 500k miles, but you definitely aren't gonna get it for free (like you may be able to squeak by a Civic or Corolla or something.) I don't think that's too unreasonable? And isn't the reason most people like those old 80s mercs the oil-burners, anyway? I never hear poo poo about their gassers from that era. And from my limited experience, any of those you buy now that isn't just some immaculate thing owned by one person and taken to the dealer for everything since new doesn't exactly start out as the most reliable thing ever, even if you CAN make it that.

Monstertruck
Aug 13, 2011

FIRST TIME posted:

Gonna go check this out later today.
http://salem.craigslist.org/ctd/3039887662.html

Anyone want to place bets on what's terribly wrong with it?



Holy tabs.

I'll put 100 on "the sunroof is broken."

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Method Loser posted:

I mean I don't think he's wrong, really, he's just pointing out that yes, they will do that 500k miles, but you definitely aren't gonna get it for free (like you may be able to squeak by a Civic or Corolla or something.) I don't think that's too unreasonable? And isn't the reason most people like those old 80s mercs the oil-burners, anyway? I never hear poo poo about their gassers from that era. And from my limited experience, any of those you buy now that isn't just some immaculate thing owned by one person and taken to the dealer for everything since new doesn't exactly start out as the most reliable thing ever, even if you CAN make it that.

The engine will be reliable. Everything else....eh....no.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

CommieGIR posted:

The engine will be reliable. Everything else....eh....no.

The engine internals, even on the gas burners. Everything else ranges from crapshoot to nearly NLA because of demand.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Ah yes, beloved Sox player Bill Buckner. So much history:
http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3099905037.html

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

kimbo305 posted:

Ah yes, beloved Sox player Bill Buckner. So much history:
http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3099905037.html


Somebody should call and ask if the ride is overly bouncy.

:laugh:

Bulk Vanderhuge
May 2, 2009

womp womp womp womp
I've seen this in person and it is cleaaaaaaaan

http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1987-Merkur-XR4Ti-W0QQAdIdZ391064107





Also

http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-1982-Toyota-Supra-Hatchback-7mge-turbo-swap-for-sale-W0QQAdIdZ377919469

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

Yes, I keep 10 million tabs open at all times.

I keep debating whether or not to dip my toe into the Merc pool but then I hear all these terrible things about every single model ever and then I go hug my E34 for being so reliable.

If I absolutely have to get a Mercedes and want to remain sane, what models should I be looking at?

assfucker420
May 14, 2012

by T. Mascis

DJ Commie posted:

They were miserable cars with a desirable badge, durable only because of their unreliability, compounded by awful maintenance (anything not dealer). They'll do 500K miles, but its a crapshoot whether it will cost you $10K or $50K to do so.

Reliability is subjective.

Yes, even Corollas and Caprices break with no maintenance.

1st Edition ADandD
Aug 31, 2009

"240K in Winnipeg" + "no visible rust" = "underside of vehicle consists of Krown sprayed directly onto the backing of the carpet"

Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



I drove past this place on the way to St. Louis and back last week. If I had more time I would have stopped in. Lots of really cool stuff listed, although I don't know if the prices are in line or not. I wish I had the money for one of the old VW squarebacks though.

http://www.countryclassiccars.com/

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

Xarthor posted:

Found an unmolested CRX for $850, says the clutch is out, thinking it might be an interesting little project car...



Oh it has some cosmetic damage that any 25 year old car would have, okay, that's manageable let's just look at the next picture and see what we're working wi--



:psyduck:

It looks like it got interrupted mid-transform.

ComfyPants
Mar 20, 2002

CornHolio posted:

Somebody should call and ask if the ride is overly bouncy.

:laugh:

The transmission is a bit sloppy, but after you get it past first, you're home free.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

assfucker420 posted:

Reliability is subjective.

Yes, even Caprices break with extreme abuse.

Fixed

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010

assfucker420 posted:

Reliability is subjective.

Yes, even Corollas and Caprices break with no maintenance.

To be fair to how reliable/low maitenance the average ~2005ish corolla is, it actually doesnt except, maybe, from oil changes.

Sealed transmission. Timing chain. 100k+ spark plugs. Theyre very low maintenance.

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

About those NSX's listed for 5-7 years, at what price do they actually sell? I just looked on BMW USA's website, and you can get a brand new 330i with 300hp, 6-speed and the works for $42k MSRP. That's a brand new car. I know the NSX is a special car and completely different, but it's also 10-20 years old and probably very expensive to repair and keep going, so the market for it at those prices has to be down to a tiny, tiny clique of superfans. I imagine those cars wouldn't even sell fast even if they halved the price.

It reminds me a bit of the BMW 850's I oogle from time to time. They look awesome and all, but they are 4-6 times the price of an E34 540 with the same power/weight ratio... just no way will I ever pay that premium just for the looks and styling.

Tai-Pan
Feb 10, 2001

Pilsner posted:

.... just no way will I ever pay that premium just for the looks and styling.

Well there is your answer. A lot of people will.

A Ferrari from the 80's will be outrun by a modern accord. Doesn't mean everyone should want the Accord.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010
The nsx is actially really cheap to repair given what it is. I did a comparison with similar year/priced ferraris. To replace EVERYTHING on an nsx that's a wear part, tie rods, ball joints, brakes, clutch, timing belt, etc with parts from rock auto was like $2500. It was like $300 more than my wrx.

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Funzo posted:

I drove past this place on the way to St. Louis and back last week. If I had more time I would have stopped in. Lots of really cool stuff listed, although I don't know if the prices are in line or not. I wish I had the money for one of the old VW squarebacks though.

http://www.countryclassiccars.com/

This place is really cool to walk around in but unfortunately the prices are way too high for what they have; I haven't seen anything approaching a "good deal" in a while there.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

Lord Gaga posted:

The nsx is actially really cheap to repair given what it is. I did a comparison with similar year/priced ferraris. To replace EVERYTHING on an nsx that's a wear part, tie rods, ball joints, brakes, clutch, timing belt, etc with parts from rock auto was like $2500. It was like $300 more than my wrx.

How hard are they to work on compared to a Ferrari? I'm guessing service intervals are going to be a lot longer than a Ferrari at the very least.

GTi_guy
Oct 21, 2003

avas ye, matey

Pilsner posted:

About those NSX's listed for 5-7 years, at what price do they actually sell? I just looked on BMW USA's website, and you can get a brand new 330i with 300hp, 6-speed and the works for $42k MSRP. That's a brand new car. I know the NSX is a special car and completely different, but it's also 10-20 years old and probably very expensive to repair and keep going, so the market for it at those prices has to be down to a tiny, tiny clique of superfans. I imagine those cars wouldn't even sell fast even if they halved the price.

It reminds me a bit of the BMW 850's I oogle from time to time. They look awesome and all, but they are 4-6 times the price of an E34 540 with the same power/weight ratio... just no way will I ever pay that premium just for the looks and styling.

Here is the most recent version of the NSX price matrix. I believe that in all reality, it's fairly accurate if not a little optimistic.

http://www.nsxprime.com/wiki/Pricing

For a point of reference, I purchased my Canadian '91 about a month ago with 116k km (71k miles) for $30k Canadian. This car was well taken care of, completely stock and owned by the previous owner for over 13 years. Apparently, age was the only factor in selling it. Who knew 69 was too old to drive this car.

As you said, we aren't necessarily reasonable people when it comes to these cars, but they're special to us. I was looking for 5 years before I finally pulled the trigger. With all that said, I don't care if a new car can beat it around the Nurburgring, it's a fantastic car which is still very well balanced and plenty powerful to get me into all sorts of trouble with the local constabulary.

rscott posted:

How hard are they to work on compared to a Ferrari? I'm guessing service intervals are going to be a lot longer than a Ferrari at the very least.

They're not horrible. It's a longitudinally mounted V-6 in a cramped engine bay. Most Acura dealerships still have an NSX tech on hand, and if not, there are plenty of specialists around. I would say cost is on par with an average BMW for upkeep.

The major things are:
Timing belt which need to be done every 6 years ($1500)
Coolant hoses, every second timing belt (+$500+/-)
Clutch when needed is about $2k
Tires every 10k miles or so. This is due to the aggressive alignment. It may be updated, but putting 4-5k miles a year means only every four years or so. After that time, you'll want to replace them anyways.

GTi_guy fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jun 26, 2012

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒

I look at that site about once a month or so, despite the terrible navigation. I love that bright blue VW squareback, and that '60s Bel Air wagon that's been on there for months.

It seems like half the results I get from Autotrader Classics are from this place.

Speaking of which, is this a good idea, or the BEST IDEA?

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

$113 shipping indicates that it was meant to be. :colbert:

Micromancer
Apr 17, 2002

He went out to the store
and when he got back
Roll-marks said .22 Short, jack.
If anything I could say that
this gun was rare
Its covered it sweat,
toilet water, and hair

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

$113 shipping indicates that it was meant to be. :colbert:

No, that means its already at his house

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010

captainOrbital posted:

I look at that site about once a month or so, despite the terrible navigation. I love that bright blue VW squareback, and that '60s Bel Air wagon that's been on there for months.

It seems like half the results I get from Autotrader Classics are from this place.

Speaking of which, is this a good idea, or the BEST IDEA?



I dont like it as much as the FFR Daytona, but considering its half the price I sure as hell would consider one.

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒
I also found an inexplicably beautiful 1957 Corvette for under 10 grand, and something called a Maserati Mistral, which I am a bit surprised and ashamed to say that I had never heard of before. This beautiful '67 Maserati looks like a Pebble Beach show car and costs 11k.

But the best part is that I've discovered EnthusiastAuto.com, which has taught me that I can still find a nice E30 M3, or even a Euro-spec M5 wagon for sale, albeit at rather high prices.

e: although I feel I should mention that enthusiastauto has a goddamn E30 M3 convertible, which seriously wtf

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     
Have some e-bay gold, this is the week for car/truck mashups so here's another one for the fire. A 1994 Honda Civic truck. Unlike the other abomination, this one actually looks presentable and could pass as oem.. Well, as oem as a civic truck ever could..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-Honda-PICK-UP-42-MPG-/180909912123?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a1f12303b


Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen
Big deal, they just slapped some Honda badges on an Isu~:stare:

Sinestro
Oct 31, 2010

The perfect day needs the perfect set of wheels.

keykey posted:

Have some e-bay gold, this is the week for car/truck mashups so here's another one for the fire. A 1994 Honda Civic truck. Unlike the other abomination, this one actually looks presentable and could pass as oem.. Well, as oem as a civic truck ever could..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-Honda-PICK-UP-42-MPG-/180909912123?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a1f12303b




I am trying to decide if that is AI as gently caress or horrible. I think it is both.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!

quote:

I started with a 1994 Honda (Civic 4 door) I put a Honda Passport front clip, bumper and doors, used a 1994 Isuzu cab and bed. (Honda, Passport, Isuzu Rodeo and Isuzu Pickup are all the same sheet metal). I used the Isuzu title for the cab so V.I.N. would be right. I have a clear title in my name. It has a trailer hitch and will pull small trailer, so have a one of a kind that runs on very little gas, 42 MPG!!

Why, how does one end up in a situation where this seems like a remotely good idea?

"Looking for a pickup to haul things and tow small trailers? Might I suggest my 1994 Honda Civic?" - An actual person

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     
What tipped the scale over to AI as gently caress for me is the point where I started looking at all the small details and the guy nailed them all except for paint. I gave some leeway on that though, because the thing is 18 years old and the interior is amazing!

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I think that's actually AI as gently caress. It's basically a VW Caddy, except as if Honda (and a redneck) built it.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

keykey posted:

Have some e-bay gold, this is the week for car/truck mashups so here's another one for the fire. A 1994 Honda Civic truck. Unlike the other abomination, this one actually looks presentable and could pass as oem.. Well, as oem as a civic truck ever could..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-Honda-PICK-UP-42-MPG-/180909912123?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a1f12303b




That's... that's something.

I wonder why he didn't at least use a D16Z6 though, or a B18, or hell even a B20 (all of which will bolt into a 92-95 chassis, need custom axles with the B swap though) - that thing's gotta be slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww with that D15.

Is the kitten included? :3:

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jun 27, 2012

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

I wonder if it comes with that cat.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009




http://alberta.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-CUSTOM-HAND-BUILT-1932-ALUMINUM-HOT-ROD-W0QQAdIdZ391267005

This thing is back up for sale. I always wonder why it doesn't sell immediately with that sexy body.

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Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.
So if it's hand built, and not really following the pattern of the original Ford, what makes it a '32? I assume it's registered as a kit and not as an actual '32?

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